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Chew, you did the same mistake I did :D. No one knows the price has been paid. He said something else (read again :D).

Yes, I want to limit it to NML and I want to schedule it for Halloween (so around 30th, 31st October).

Why do I think I named the contest: Pain Tournament?

Most people can become NML citizens whenever they want, in a split of a second. The rest need about 10 seconds.

Peace is on the list!

Anything is possible... Now, Intrigue was kind enough to send me the link to one of Alyon's BHC like events (here: http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/14123-mini-bhc-statless-edition/) The list of rules he had are below (in blue you will find my comments). Based on your input I will add/remove.modify them: read the rules well, because when you sign up withdraws will not be accepted; -----APPLIED: Nimmy's reward is for 10 people minimum. I don't want joins just to achieve that number and then people to withdraw. outside helps isn’t allowed, so if I see someone that isn’t in the contest that helps a participant I will give you a chance to stop this or you will not participate in any of my contest (if you sign up I will kick you out so you will lose also the fee entrance); --- APPLIED: although I am tempted not to but I am doing it for the fairness of the contest (I want it painful not too unfair) if one helps you and this player doesn’t participate in the contest you need to PM me and I will try to speak with this player to explain the rules; ---APPLIED: Mur forbids someone "aids" someone else. That's all I am saying :D teleport spells aren't allowed; ----N/A: you have them? Use them! fighters aren't allowed to use any kind of spells or items that will prevent other players to attack you during the contest, like ghost spell or cloak item; ---APPLIED: for obvious reasons. frog spell isn't allowed; ---N/A: there are way too few spells of this sort. all spells are accepted, except for the ones already listed; --N/A:all spells are allowed fighters aren’t allowed to use illusions, since they can’t be attacked by other fighters; --N/A: you cannot be attacked while in an illusion if you don't have crits. If you don't have crits you lose by default. dead fighters will be kicked out, if they will be dead again when contest will start; ---APPLIED: for obvious reasons. Also it's advisable 3rd parties to not interfere and kill any of the participants. don't use bugs for cheat and if you find bugs related to BHC please email to bugs@magicduel.com with all screens etc for solve it; --- APPLIED! you can pass heads to another fighter writing this in Live Chat: *gives (amount of heads) heads to (playername)* for specific amount of heads, instead for give all your heads you should use *gives all heads to (playername)*; ---APPLIED DON'T CHEAT or I could decide to don't let you participate anymore in my contests. ---This I am tempted again to say N/A because if you can cheat and not get caught...you're good.

From what Eon told me he did have trees with tokens and with more life than they should if tokens would have been inactivated but if you say tokens don't matter I have to take your word for it since I have never fought in a statless BHC. I will not participate in this contest (lack of time and it would also not be fair) so it will be your job to actually report if something is not according to "rules" (any kind, combat included). I cannot nullify viscosity or honor or preserve loyalty. Citizens will also have a harsh time since they will have to give up their citizenship during the contest (which I still don't know how long should be so I am waiting for your opinions).

An automatic one? I highly doubt it. Principles yes, are considered stats. Age doesn't matter no where in combat so it doesn't matter how "old" you are.

Tokens unfortunately are included (from what Eon tells me the "no stats" was suppose to nullify the tokens as well but somehow it was forgotten..). But since most are based on personal stats they should not pose too much of a threat. Thank you Nimmy :D I shall update the first post with the reward. Also thank you Intrigue for the confirmation!

Crafting - crafters. If they don't show up and reply in more than 1 month go to Council.

New info (thanks to Eon): No stats means "no extra ve" as well. Also there is a feature that allows you to GIVE your heads to an oponent. All you need to do is type *give head(s) to <playername>* - need to check if syntax is correct (if it's head or heads and if should add * or not but i believe you do...)

I think VE is not affected. By personal stats I understand attack, def etc. The same restrictions regarding stats were applied during the last contest held by Alyon and won by Krioni few weeks ago so maybe one of the participants can enlighten us.

Then 31st Oct it is! Non-allied means you have to drop badges...Pain Festival. You need to feel some pain (and I am hoping to be able to inflict some more as well as add some more rewards based on the inflicted pain). I will allow only No Man's Land people to join (since apparently I have this option).

It's a BHC/HC contest type. I cannot restrict crits or ve or pray power. Spells will work like in any normal BHC: some restricted, some allowed. I will remove stats. I will only allow non allied players. I will make all mind power levels attack-able (so mp5 can attack mp4 and so on).

Wait...isn't Oct for Thanksgiving and Nov for Halloween? O.o If it's Oct then we need to hurry :D

Yes, this is how it is and has always been. It's so nice of you to come NOW and point that out when this is how all BHCs and HC and basically any combat tournament have been held. And you get pissy when I wonder for which hole you crawled up...

How about we do it the other way around: bugs to bugs, avatars to avatars, swears to grido, everything else to council?

So, today I had another idea (you might like it this time :P): A Pain Tournament. The idea came while talking to someone about Mur's pain festival from a couple of years ago. We had a lot of fun during that time (or at least I had). Then since even if I don't fight anymore I am still a fan of fighting I thought of such a tournament. To organize one is quite hard (see Krioni's one during LR festival) but apparently "automatic ones" were quite popular (see Alyon's last one) I received the permission to organize one using the BHC interface (no, I will simply send the parameters, I am not the future BHC master). Thank you Chew for your future help :D And being a Pain Tournament, I shall apply LOTS of restrictions: null stats, all mp levels attack-able, no alliance. Now, I am not decided about duration (I want it to be painful but I want also people to play it and I know time is an issue for everyone). I aim to run it during Halloween (or to start it then) since it's pain and suffering. However I might not be able due to some business trip at the end of November so in case this happens I want to run it during the first week from December (I will know more in about few weeks so plenty of time until then). Rewards (for now): 1 WP for the winner and 1 Windy. : 1 WP from Nimmy if there are more than 10 participants. - guess 2nd place will receive it If anyone wishes to sponsor with more, I shall be using those for 2nd and 3rd place. I want to see as many people fight as in the old days. I know we have more restrictions due to viscosity but I am still hoping to see some blood shed. Would you join such an event? Do you have other ideas on how to better the contest? I am opened to suggestions! LE: I think I am inclined to run it only if I get at least 6-7-8-9 or more participants. Otherwise I feel it would not be fair.

There cannot be a list: Council is moody. They would do one thing but deny the same thing to another player. They like to have escape ways.

@Azthor: I read your last post. I honestly did but the only thing I understood is that you're insulting No one using words none of us (me and No one) know :D However, I spent some time reading your first one and I don't agree with you. Drach number (and I mean all types) should defo not be reduced. The current limit is 3. How lower should it go? May I remind you that rusts and reins (during Christmas) are crits you can get with credits? And that MD badly needs credits? May I remind you that Chewett's time and work is NOT payed because MD cannot afford that at this point? So take it as a financial reason why the number should not be limited. If you really want a solution, tweak the abilities (this is an idea No one threw at me some days? weeks? ago and I discarded it saying Chew is busy working for A2050 so it would be a waste of time to write about it. Things changed so we might try that idea.) As long as we have drachs, we need some sort of counter for them and so far angiens are the answer. Do we really want to decrease the number? Also I should tell you (since you probably do not know), angiens don't boost themselves like shop drachs do to "normal" drachs (at least with the current..."setup" - I will not go into details because I've already spoiled things). Again, I would temper with the abilities and re-design them or at least change some values there. Archers:I really don't see WHY we should modify them. They are not the ultimate crits. They have weaknesses. They can be defeated quite easily.

From my point of view, the item is just an item. Not related to the player or to a land (there is no player name in there and no land name). It's not even script-able. So I don't see the connection to the Labirinth. Second, I haven't heard of any description of an item to be ever changed to match a role or a player. Once the description was set, that's what it remained with. So good luck in getting that description changed. Third, you DO need the community approval because that was your task. And a task you failed at because the community didn't actually support you since you alienated almost everyone and were rude and cocky as you always are although you have absolutely no reasons to feel you're better than others.On contrary :d (but this is just my opinion :D). Going to Council to get your item done rather than waiting for a crafter was a smart move but somehow I don't think you were granted EXACTLY what you asked for. I mean if you wanted an item FOR Labyrinth, why not ask for a description that contains that word in it and make it a land related item (also maybe mention your name to bound it to you)? Wouldn't that be more logical? Or am I the only one seeing the logic in asking for such a description? Or were you that incompetent that you never thought of that and just went for the generic description thinking it will grant you more power (or simply didn't think to include the "Lab" word or your name)?

Too bad the description doesn't quite match the intended use :D

He has a ring with the description: A ring that upon twisting\r\nallows the bearer\'s mind to unlock and access untapped potential through unusual\r\ndoors. There is no mention of the Labyrinth anywhere and the description is also screwed up :D

Rumburak!!!! :D Go back to Fairy Tale Kingdom! Question: how does MD Lab have doors? Last time I checked it had only shrubs passages. And the Laby is not infinite hence why most of us have maps. Also, what do you mean by untapped potential? Potential of whom? The ring? The bearer? And last one: could you please also give us the description of the ring? Just for curiosity...if you may please :D