Grido

to not comment on what has been said previously (i like some of those suggestinons btw) the system that was in place meant that people in loreroot alliances with Lore torch(well me anyway) lost only 1AP in Loreroot, and obviosly more in MB, i presume the opposite is the same MBans with MB torch, yet those allied with other lands with the Loreroot torch suffered the penalty of travel to their AP while there

come on seriously, if everyone did this we'd have hundreds of new threads, i'm all for actually new players doing it, but players which have been around for ages like you, really dont need one, we already know who you are, we dont need to welcome you to the gameor forums, you dont need a hello thread. ach /rant

hehe, heys Mania i think that once you get to a certain number of active days you shouldnt be able to post here lol

yeah, i know of very few people who are surviving with a balenced profile in mp5, it just doesnt work when everyone has a tonne more losses to wins than you do

we're not working together on this, but we support each other and what each of us is doing, Kriskah is organising the Market, and i have my shop

i'm all for rebuilding as you might've guessed so good luck with it, i hope you suceed

yeah...you left off Necro and Golemus where they're going to be.... we have another three days right? i'll try to come up with something, will tell you when i have it done and ready to tell

yeah, i was under the impression that none of the Dimension Shifters had any powers related to the alliance other than Simply himself. What will you do now?

I feel the need for at least a semi-epic post, with lots of direct quoting, the reason i havent already done this is because i spent most of yesterday travelling and thus without internet, and have only recently got my wireless connected again. right, on with the quotage [quote name='Watcher']Now (Zl-eye-f)-nea, how, exactly, should any previous member of this alliance be "grateful" to Grido for anything he has done? They should ‘be happy that he did not obliterate the alliance?’ Grido did not keep the alliance out of some altruistic desire to see it rebuilt; he kept it around because King Manu would have flayed him alive for such an act.[/quote] [quote name='Zleip']Firstly: Do not speak for what Mur would or wouldn't do. He can speak for himself, using his name so flippantly as a power tool against Grido, for me, is unacceptable - Unless you are Mur himself or have an actual quote from him saying he will do something, you cannot say what he would or wouldn't do.[/quote] you see, i now can say what Mur would or wouldn't do Mur quotage on YIM Grido: there's a thread on the forums about me and Zleip rebuilding the Savel alliance Grido: and someone said in responce that the only reason i didnt destroy it, was because you would flay me alive Grido: which i dont think to be true, but figured i'd check Muratus Mur: nope, i do not do such things Muratus Mur: the takeover of the alliance was done with a reason and it was not a mistake or act of vandalism Muratus Mur: so as long as it has a reason is part of the history Muratus Mur: only alliances that have a certain level of immunity are the guilds Grido: yes, thought so Muratus Mur: and the leaders determined by role have a greater power over the alliance than the loyalty ranking Grido: mm Muratus Mur: so if savelfuser returned and asked me to give the alliance back to him i would have done sone, probably not immediatly Muratus Mur: but no punishing to you Muratus Mur: there is no reason, it was part of the war and part of the history Grido: yup, just to make sure i could say ''Mur would not have flayed me'' Muratus Mur: yes you can say that, but not because its YOU grido but because i would have done so in any case Grido: oh yes, i'll clarify that Muratus Mur: Grido: i wasnt under the impression i was special Muratus Mur: i wanted to insist on that becaseu when the war started some people came to me to stop it as if it was somethign terrible Grido: lol Muratus Mur: i am not stopping wars or change history i just observe it Grido: yeah, i get that, it's just a lot of other people dont Muratus Mur: there are very rare cases i need to change it Muratus Mur: when its about a bug or an act of vandalism Muratus Mur: they expected me to say stop the war and save the game Muratus Mur: stop the war? lol , and lose the fun? no way Grido: lmao Grido: and just to confirm, am i allowed to quote parts of this convo? Muratus Mur: yes Well that point at least is well and truly clarified. [quote name='Watcher']They have proven that they cannot be trusted and have no honor. "Even in war, there are rules." In a game such as this, one does not sneak into an alliance and rip it apart from the interior when conflict seems imminent.[/quote] where did you even get that quote from? i have another ''All is fair in love and war'' cannot be trusted? i have proved that time and time again with various people, aparently not with you, but ask anyone that i actually talk to in game, you aparently like to hide behind your forum name so we cant contact you in game. ''one'' doesn't do that? any and all methods of fighting in war time are accepted, have you never heard of spies and espionage? i'm sure if i looked i can find an example in real life of some similar situation occuring. [quote name='Watcher']He can justify it how he wishes, but the fact remains that, during a time of potential conflict, he infiltrated an opposing alliance and dismantled it for no other reason than to eliminate a potential source of opposition.[/quote] ''for no other reason''? i have stated my main reason as it being a point of the war, and it being defunct ''opposition'' the alliance had 5 members in it, all of which could likely find happy homes in one of the other two Lorerootian alliances if they wanted, so it wouldnt have been a good job if i had been trying to get rid of opposition would it now? [quote name='Watcher']The previous members wish to rebuild or remake the Savelite Church and they should be allowed, without the interference of outsiders, without their rules or regulations.[/quote] We are trying make it as it once was, the previous members can apply to rejoin, but the fear is that if we just give it back to them, the alliance will go back into the state that it was. hope this clears up some matters

all? i didnt think so...... this is an old thread anyway, from when mp2 start was compulsory (i think) anyway, organised into a system now

committee, dst and i've been travelling all day glad to hear you like the place, and may you stick around and grow to love it

hehe, Greetings, and welcome, to this, the....errm yeah, cant think of an appropriate term for this place anywho, enjoy it

''love your a-day-ago-enemies'' no, i dont love them, but, one point of the war was that the Savels had become defunct, i made my move to rebuild them to help loreroot, and solve one of their issues also as a side, enemies can love one another, civil wars where familys fight one another etc... and NO, the church will NOT be under GG authority, yes i will lead it for a time, but the alliance is Lorerootian, and it will remain such

knowing every location in the game purely by seeing it's co-ordinates, off by heart yes, i'm serious

lol, i am predictable after i gained control of the alliance, i contemplated dissolving it, but changed my mind after a lot of thinking and instead decided to try to rebuild it, one of the points of the war was about the Savelites Church, so i am trying to reform it with Zleip's help. i am outside of the church so i can build loyalty more easily, so we can actually take in members without members overtaking us easily. most of the council are accepting the alliance as it stands, this is based off the best of my knowledge so i could be wrong on that, and if the council accepts me, when they have less reason to trust in me, then i see no reason for you to mistrust, but that is for you to decide, and i will not pressure you at all i know the reasons why i would be seen as not being trusted, and i fully understand them, no forgiveness is neccesary.

i'd just like to second what Akasha said, partly due to my own name being one that i had to erase *looks at Raven*

the Savelite Church is being reformed, under it's former intentions, look under the Alliances subforum, there is a topic there explaining

if i recall an automatic prize was going to be implemented ''later'', later being said after the original people were awarded within the 24 hours or so of it opening, this hasnt happened yet, i presume Mur either forgot about doing it, or just got busy on other things

the not displaying co-ords and location counter wouldnt be too much work, and the Minotaur thing, as long as the drawing is already done, i dont think would be either the EP thing, probably would, although it depends how it works in the first place the riddles and tricks would be harder to implement in, becaue you'd have to link them to specific scenes and then make it recognise your response and activate a key to allow you to pass, which is a lot of work a fun, but also difficult to do thing, would be to have certain locations of the maze move around it, that probably doesnt make sense, but it does to me

i'd just like to make a couple of responces to Blackthorns post 1. It was not King Bull's log-in we used, the account that was used was used by the owner. 2. ''Yrth trying to put his Real Life friend into power here in LR shows his true face'' errm, whilst me and Yrth are friends and chat in game a lot, we talk very little out of it (YIM), and even less of that is anything that isn't to do with MD, i have never met him either, so i couldnt say i know him well enough at all to call him a ''Real Life Friend'' i took it over due to being second in command and the most appropriate person to, rather a face that is known, than one who is not. there's various other things i could respond to here, but i'm not going to, because my eyes hurt and my memory is bad

''I have word that mine action caused the enemy some dismay.'' errm, from who? i ask, not expecting an answer on that, but after the Savelites were taken over, I personally expected both CotE and GotR to clean ranks immediately, and that thought was shared with others who were planning, so yeah....dismay....not so much. ''Grido and his unscrupulous conspirators'' hmm nice, i take a defunct alliance and dont dissolve it immediately, and i'm unscrupulous.... and no comment was made about what i'm actually trying to do with it, which i'm sure Tarq knows, yay for one-sidedness. i'm working to achieve a united and functional church once more. *drops dead from sleep exhaustion* EDIT: *pops awake for another second* due to not wanting to get lynched (by either side), and for total honesty on my part, i am both Golemus AND Lorerootian, dispute my ability to be both what you will, but i am, and thats that

wow, reviving old topic i believe that players were rewarded for getting all black as well, albeit a lesser prize not sure if this still happens or not though

hehe ''yet another'' it's not like they'll ever stop happy birthday Kriskah, may your fair prosper, and make sure you also have / have had a good day

hehe, Happy Birthday Cless Hope you've had a great day

well i gathered the ''troops'' at about 2am i think, possibly before that, i got let into the maze shortly after we'd been briefed by Mur, so possibly about 3/4 am start wise move not repeating that then Chew, sacking most of your critters? ouch [b][color="#0000FF"]Chewett: it was the culmination of a late night and an early morning. Luckily i a few creatures that i could rebuild an army with.[/color][/b]