Eon Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 (edited) It's time for another BHC again. In this BHC fighters will battle all throughout the realm, excluding locations like path keeper, Fields of Fear, Inside the GG mountain, and any other area that isn't normally accessible. I'll allow WP locations. Any MP level can join, and all MP levels can attack one another. The second stage will start once the top scorer reaches 400,000 score, and it will last for 72 hours. [b][size=5]Rewards[/size][/b] First Place: One morph, a normal BHC medal, and +20 skilldamage stat. Second Place: Tainted Angien Third Place: 10 gold coins [b][size=5]Sign Up[/size][/b] [url="http://magicduel.com/sitegizmo/bosscontest_signup.php"]http://magicduel.com...test_signup.php[/url] I will keep switching between silver coins and gold. I might give some different options later. [b][size=5]Date[/size][/b] It will start on "Server time: May 17 17:00:00" [b][size=5]Rules[/size][/b] 1. Players must be able to attack you at all times, unless you're not in the same location, or you're in a sanc with less than 7 heads. You must have creatures for other fighters to attack. Yes, I'm making sure people can't just ghost their way throughout the entire BHC. 2. Don't take a players head's without battling creatures. That means don't kill off your creatures and try to take heads that way. You can RP the heads. 3. Don't use bugs. Pretty simple. [b]If I feel something needs to be changed I'll change it.[/b] Edited May 16, 2012 by Eon dst, Vicious, ignnus and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 So why can't people use spells again? Manda, Watcher, J-D and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted May 14, 2012 Root Admin Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1337030609' post='111873'] So why can't people use spells again? [/quote] Does it say that? i cant see it anywhere in the post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soothing Sands Posted May 14, 2012 Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 Seig was talking about ghost. And it makes sense, because last BHC i used the elu which prevented attacks, and Eon got angry. The only problem I see with this is that - someone can use a wishpoint to get entrance to a "secret" location, but they can't use the spells they get from the WP shop. dst and Espartano 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eon Posted May 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 14, 2012 It conflicts with being attackable at all times, and this rule stands. I once watched someone spend most, if not all their time during the second stage of an HC cloaked/ghosted. I remember witnessing seig say he was going to use his cloak during a BHC to try to win it. That was awhile ago but I haven't forgotten. Let me tell you guy's something. As long as I'm the Boss Heads Master, this will never happen in the BHC. If you have a problem with that then don't sign up. Mirror, attack lock, and just about everything else is fine. WP locations aren't that secretive in my opinion. Like I said, the rules stand. Watcher, Hedge Munos, MRAlyon and 4 others 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 What of the Tribunal, GG, Necrovion and the Labyrinth? All are accessible to everybody, but have high AP costs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eon Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 They are allowed ignnus, Espartano, Liberty4life and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) Yeah, and so... because someone used an item that was given to them, for their own benefit, what's wrong with that? Right Eon? Personally, this seems more of a personal attack against someone, rather than making the HC "fair". Edited May 15, 2012 by Seigheart Watcher, Espartano, Hedge Munos and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eon Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) I make the rules. You can always choose not to follow them, but you'll be removed from the competition. Your choice. Personal attack against who? You? If you mattered you'd be dead right now. Edited May 15, 2012 by Eon Sephirah Caelum, dst, Vicious and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I have no intention on participating what so ever, just questioning your thinking, and your ethics behind this "rule". It just seems silly to ban the use of a single spell for no reason. Why not ban any spell that prevents people from using all their creatures, like the multi spell. Or spells that alter a person's ritual, like the Other Army spell? Why just Invisibility? Espartano, Liberty4life, dst and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eon Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Do the other spells prevent people from being attacked. Question, it won't change a thing. Liberty4life, Vicious, dst and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Nope, but it prevents them from using their abilities. I just wanted to point out the biased nature of your "contest". dst, Hedge Munos, Liberty4life and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eon Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I mentioned people had to be attackable in the last BHC as well. Who am I against here? Vicious, ignnus, Manda and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Anyone who has the ability to use the Ghost/Invisibility Spell. It seems quite biased. Why is it that you are so against this spell, but none of the others that effect combat? If someone can't be attacked because of a spell, that seems like a fair tactic. They will eventually run out of casts. It just seems a bit.... fishy. Liberty4life, Watcher, Espartano and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eon Posted May 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'm against people not being attackable like I have been in side events and the last BHC. Why have you never spoken up before? Is it because you now have your cloak and you can't do the exact thing I witnessed you say you were going to do? Disappointed you can't sell the use of your cloak to someone else? dst, Espartano, Vicious and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstickz Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 (edited) [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1337047018' post='111890'] Nope, but it prevents them from using their abilities. I just wanted to point out the biased nature of your "contest". [/quote] Yoshi won the first BHC because he couldn't be attacked, guess what happened in the next one? Mur decided to make all BHC competitors able to attack each other. Was that biased against Yoshi, or other MP3s? This is the same thing, Eon is simply reacting to events that he witnessed before they take place within BHC, rather than after they're used to win. As for limited casts, Seig, you have an item that grants ghost, do you not? I don't know how many uses it's got, but it would certainly give an edge over other competitors who only had the WPShop spell to work with. How would you call that fair? Edited May 15, 2012 by Pipstickz Watcher, Liberty4life and dst 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Udgard Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 How about illusions? IIRC ghosts had durations, whereas with illusion I can stay unattackable for however long I want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowseeker Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 You are however attackable in illusions, and lose your heads. In Ghost, you cannot be attacked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted May 15, 2012 Root Admin Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 It is very odd that Seigheart even though he states he is not going to participate, or use his item, cares about this so much, that is what i call fishy... Seigheart, Hedge Munos and Liberty4life 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maebius Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 My opinion is that this is very clear. The other spells like Mirror, noMulti, OtherArmy and such are "knowing how combat works" and meddling with it to your favor if cast. Ghost simply removes the combat option entirely, and is thus "not a fight". This is a Heads contest. It is all about fighting. Boss heads particularly so. Thus, you need to fight. No where does is say "Heads contest is fair", but I think the rule is quite "balanced" in it's own way. Hedge Munos, Liberty4life and Tom Pouce 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 Chewett, I have no intention on giving my cloak to someone to use, nor do I plan on selling it, nor do I plan on using it myself during the BHC. HC is supposed to be unfair. How is it unfair if people can't use all their spells during the fight? I don't know, I just think it's funny that the fight isn't just who can attack each other the most, but who can use everything available to them the most efficiently. Watcher, dst, Pipstickz and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liberty4life Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 fenrir, the way ya are sayin it... [quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1337047018' post='111890'] but it prevents them from using their abilities. I don't know, I just think it's funny that the fight isn't just who can attack each other the most, but who can use everything available to them the most efficiently. [/quote] well then why stop at one spell rule, ya knuw some ppl are able to use bugs at their benefits, its just another tool at their disposal, why nut allow those? ya "earned" yoar item, ya should be able to "use" it, well there are ppl who took time and effort in discoverin bugs, many are fixed, some aint in other words why nut allow them to use wut they "earned", this just a rough example also unfair doesnt mean it has no rules, dont forget that explainin this rule to ya is the same as explainin to spartiatis about his death and drachs ya are just another one who sees somethin they dont like and starts whinin even though it has no sense, this is combat contest, if ya wanna participate and use tactics of evadin yoar enemies then RUN, realm is big enough also i bet that once there will be some counter-ghost spell, yoar ghost/invis spell will be allowed, everythin thats in contest must have its counterpart Watcher and dst 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 I'm not whining, just presenting my opinion on a weird rule. Watcher, dst, Hedge Munos and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Root Admin Chewett Posted May 15, 2012 Root Admin Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 To me, the rule seems perfectly logical. BHC is the best fighter, you are not fighting if you are ghosted all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seigheart Posted May 15, 2012 Report Share Posted May 15, 2012 No, but it's like Skilldamage. People complain all the time about how Eon uses his Skilldamage to hurt people's stats. But others come back and say, he earned it. Let him use it. Well, others have earned their spells/items. Let them use them. dst, Pipstickz and Watcher 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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