complain about Eon

[Espartano]

Rules and restrictions
- updated as the game grows -

*Any repeated complain from multiple unique users will get some kind of unwanted action on you, try not to offend people, or to cause a mess in general

*Repeated harrassment without reason of other players will not be tolerated. If you have a reason for that, that reason should be discussed with a moderator and if that moderator is unable to solve the issue then put up for voting on the forum. By harrasment we understand constant verbal abuse and moking. Repeated attacks or other ways are not considered punishable harrasment but can be brought up for judging if you think they should.

so I whant know who else whant to complain about [b]Eon[/b], that keep hunting us down in the most remotes places of game, not let any people do even regeneration rituals, and worse, keep using Angiens to give people 1mil personal xp, when they are using Regeneration.

@Curiose: Im curious to know how you get SD? I like to fight, not be locked in a sanctuary 12hs all days, just because cant use Regeneration to lose xp and be able to play again in open

@Tarquinus: Im sorry, fight with 1mil vitality Angiens and full tokened Drachs, is like to fight with 2 mil persians there is no way I know to win.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Espartano

[Laphers]

As an opposing view point, I would like to thank Eon for idling with a tree set at the park allowing me to gain wins for my creatures and Victories to bring me closer to balance than I have been for most of my mp5 experience.

[Curiose]

So what if he hunts you down and attacks you?

THERE IS NO RULE STATING THAT HE CAN'T.

If you don't like it, go hide in a sanctuary. Has he insulted you? Has he said anything rude to you at all? No. He ATTACKS you. If you're going to complain about Eon, you might as well complain about every other grinder in the game for attacking you repeatedly in the open.

I am in 1000 past Stat damage, and I have asked Eon nicely not to attack me. And he has followed through with that. Does that make him such a bad guy? Not really, Maybe if you used your words you wouldn't be complaining.

It's easy: Being in an alliance since Mp3 and being attacked.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Curiose

[Tarquinus]

Spartan: what is your profession?

[The Great Pashweetie]

first off, dont listen to curiose, she gets mad WAAAYY to easily, I suggest speaking with eon and trying to figure out something that you both can gain from .
As a peacekeeper it is my job to settle fights, i hope that works .
TGP

[CrazyMike]

I am speaking on my own personal accord and in no way are my comments representing fellow grinders.

I too am one of those that attacks everything that moves. Sometimes I win, sometimes I lose.

I balance the situation with a tree in my defense.

When I win, players complain I am destroying their crits, and when I lose, players complain I give them too much xp.

Anyways, I just wanna say that there are some players that I do not attack because they have asked that they do not wish to be attacked.

I will normally honour their request because they have asked nicely and politely.

I will ignore those that are rude and getting angry for being attacked.

My point is speak to Eon politely or any of the grinders, and you will be surprised how nice we are.

[Tarquinus]

Spartan: come home with your shield, or on it. If the arrows of the enemy will obscure the sun itself, then you will fight in the shade.

The question for those such as ourselves is not whether we can defeat Eon. The question is whether we are willing to face him in a duel. It is my opinion that both of us, from the perspective of our characters, must always say "yes". Do we know we will lose? Yes. Does that matter? To our characters, no. Eon's not breaking any rules, and indeed has a record of being as polite and helpful as any of the grinders I have known. I do not think you will find much support for your complaint.

[i]Go and tell them in Sparta, passerby, that here, obedient to their commands, we lie.[/i]

Edited January 9, 2011 by Tarquinus

[Grido]

I don't have a particular feeling either way for this, I have my own way of avoiding being attacked*, but as you quoted the rule;

"that reason should be discussed with a moderator and if that moderator is unable to solve the issue then put up for voting on the forum."

Did you actually discuss this with a Moderator (another name for an LHO, if you didn't know)? So that they might try to "solve" it, like that rule states?



LE: *So I haven't really experienced Eons attacks

Edited January 9, 2011 by Grido

[Amoran Kalamanira Kol]

I don't believe that Eon is unreasonable at all in regards to battle, and I don't believe making a complaint about him in the forums is going to gain you support from very many people, including Eon.

What you should have done is spoken to him personally via PM and worked something out. There is no rule that states that he cannot attack you, and there is no rule that states that you cannot attack him.

I don't think that he is hitting you to antagonize you, but perhaps he is hitting you because he enjoys the fighting aspect of the game. Eon attacks everyone, including me sometimes.

[Curiose]

Allow me to make a rude comment here:

Pashweetie, if you had another brain, it would be lonely, plain and simple.

Why am I angry? Because Eon is a friend of mine, and in no way should be complained against. If you had bothered speaking to him in PM when he doesn't have them blocked, he IS a reasonable person, and he DOES follow through with requests, no matter how ridiculous*.

*I know this because:
I have asked him not to attack my Shroom, and the people at SN when they are presenting, and he has adhered to that, AND he has kept it in future events.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Curiose

[Jubaris]

Eon has to attack people to gain wins, he gave a lot of xp to me too, but when I asked him to stop cause of the xp, he agreed to skip me, and I am grateful on it.

I like gaining xp, I get stats that I want and such, but the thing that I was troubled with is that in the same day when I drop 20 mil of xp, and I idle at the Park, I wake up and see 24 mil xp.
But I asked him nicely and he agreed to stop, if he wouldn't, I would either stop to idle in open, or would idle with some trees.
There's really no need for you to make public complaint on him, furthermore cause he didn't break any rule.

[Espartano]

I just cant believe that all the replyers dont know the diference between creature xp in a fight, AND ONLY personal xp given trough angiens after being crushed and any creature survive the battle to get any of it.
also why attacking me saying: ask him politely...
the only time I try ask anything to him/try start a friendly talk that was the answer:

"[Other...]
*From: Eon (ID:67640)
*sent 1 month and 4 weeks ago Read later
Original message:
once in a time I was friend of Atlas, *the titan*, and Wizard of Heaven *the Lich*, I miss some more friendly Necrovians T_T
Original message
RE:Hello
[color="#FF0000"]I don't care who you were friends with.[/color]"

in my small mind I understood, he dont care for any of the two players I mentioned as my friends, others necrovions, that also I consider my friends, and others players that like to *[color="#00BFFF"]party[/color]* with me.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Espartano

[Chewett]

[quote name='Espartano' timestamp='1294567771' post='77167']
I just cant believe that all the replyers dont know the diference between creature xp in a fight, AND ONLY personal xp given trough angiens after being crushed and any creature survive the battle to get any of it.
also why attacking me saying: ask him politely...
the only time I try ask anything to him/try start a friendly talk that was the answer:

"[Other...]
*From: Eon (ID:67640)
*sent 1 month and 4 weeks ago Read later
Original message:
once in a time I was friend of Atlas, *the titan*, and Wizard of Heaven *the Lich*, I miss some more friendly Necrovians T_T
Original message
RE:Hello
[color="#FF0000"]I don't care who you were friends with.[/color]"

in my small mind I understood, he dont care for any of the two players I mentioned as my friends, others necrovions, that also I consider my friends, and others players that like to *[color="#00BFFF"]party[/color]* with me.
[/quote]

What you said wasnt polite, its no real suprise why he is attacking... Also you said that to him 2 months ago. If i were you ask him NICELY to stop coming and attacking the people at the party. Naming some friends and saying he isnt friendly isnt a good way to start a pm. As you can see most other people have had him respond well to them.

[Espartano]

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1294569588' post='77168']
What you said wasnt polite, its no real suprise why he is attacking... Also you said that to him 2 months ago. If i were you ask him NICELY to stop coming and attacking the people at the party. Naming some friends and saying he isnt friendly isnt a good way to start a pm. As you can see most other people have had him respond well to them.
[/quote]
...yes perhaps again everything is the fault of my mother tongue is not English, and I do not know how to start a conversation in a more gentle way than: I wish you were my friend as well as other necrovions who are already my friends.

[phantasm]

Here is my thoughts on the matter:

Eon is one of those few true grinders like the mp3 and mp4 hear about in their nightmares. He is not the only, wasn't the first, and won't be the last. Since you are a young spartan, I'm sure you don't know of Dayredeemer *sp?* who in his day was a tyrant of my mp5 youth. Leixer who not long ago was fairly ruthless in the very same tactic you speak of now. MRAylon has quite a nasty rit to do the same with. ShadowSeeker, myself. and several others can also give large sums of personal xp in a fight, though we aren't aggressive in such. There are MANY more then Eon, and many that were aggressive then, are not so now. They are simply trying to accomplish a goal.

Wether it be win/loss ratio, stat increase, or any other set of goals. Very seldom are people aggressive for no other reason to be mean. If they are doing so, then it is their roleplay to be evil. Redneck and others performed this very well. If anything I can say for Eon is that he isn't obnoxious like some of those others were/are.

My personal xp as of right now is 36 million. The point more so is to look past the short term and in the long term. Experience is always short term. It can be raised and lost at any time as an MP5. Such things are not permanent. If you are an MP4 then either move to an MP5 or kill all of your creatues so you can't be attacked. Many RPers set specific rituals to allow all of their creatures to die. That way they don't lose creatures, but can still interact without being attacked into stat loss. You could sac all of your creatures if fighting doesn't appeal to you. Then you would never have to worry about fighting until you are ready, then you can start over. As you see there are many options besides the one you are currently taking. I see this post you have made as, "I don't mind picking fights with people, but the bully of the school is picking on me today and thats not fair." Get my point?

[Manda]

Hi all

The current problem is not the win or lose if just all ask Eon please dont attack us when he will be able to fight ?¿?¿
is the insane ammount of xp that he give in each fight using angiens and in a place where no one need to do damage or are training regen to lose some xp

all know the problem with the regen..... need more dedication and friends with regen and not much mp5 have both


well for curiose

The pm that you send to me was a rude and what i said something wrong? = no so please try to be more nice here.

You told me that i was an idiot just for grind i say well i have a tree in df use it ( i can teach you how to get vics from trees or some good rits if you want or ask Asterdai too *wink*)


Eon is a good guy and he support the game that we love i try to contact him but no answer i wish he can tell us whats in his mind

[Espartano]

[quote name='Manda' timestamp='1294579209' post='77175']
The current problem is not the win or lose if just all ask Eon please dont attack us when he will be able to fight ?¿?¿
is the insane ammount of xp that he give in each fight using angiens and in a place where no one need to do damage or are training regen to lose some xp

all know the problem with the regen..... need more dedication and friends with regen and not much mp5 have both

Eon is a good guy and he support the game that we love i try to contact him but no answer i wish he can tell us whats in his mind
[/quote]
yes, I dont was complaining about the ballance of fights, and before when he was using Drachs to kill us, but now about the personal xp of the angiens.
It is really hard to lose some amount of xp in the last days, 1 mil in a single fight where any crit survive to get a piece of it is really annoying.
What is the purpose of that in the game? I think everyone just whant have some fun in the things we are doing.

[Eon]

My main goal is not to give you 1m personal experience a fight (your only getting 500-600k at a time, not 1m). If that was what i was trying to achieve then I would be using my angien/max bird ritual instead of my drach/angien ritual. The drachs are meant to wipe out your tree before my angien could get a hit on it. You started to use regen rits that lasted through my drach attacks which is why you were getting that high amount of experience.

If you haven't noticed, my angiens are not maxed. I am obviously working to get them maxed. Once my angiens are maxed I will go back to my old remain training.

I make sure to attack all players regardless how long it takes me to get to them.

Since I have moved up to mp5 I have gotten quite a few pm's from people kindly asking if i could stop attacking them with my angiens. If i have no previous problems with you and your polite then I will usually agree to stop attacking you with them.

Since I started attacking you back at the GoS I don't recall ever getting a pm from any of you asking me to stop. There were multiple times I saw people refer to me as the devil along with other names. That doesn't exactly get you on my good side.

This topic has only succeeded in annoying me. I will continue to train as I have been until my angiens are maxed.

No, I will not be replying to this topic again.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Eon

[Espartano]

[quote name='Eon' timestamp='1294581753' post='77177']
My main goal is not to give you 1m personal experience a fight (more like 500-600k though).
.
If you haven't noticed, my angiens are not maxed. I am obviously working to get them maxed. Once my angiens are maxed I will go back to my old remain training.

I make sure to attack all players regardless how long it takes me to get to them.

Since I have moved up to mp5 I have gotten quite a few pm's from people kindly asking if i could stop attacking them with my angiens. If i have no previous problems with you and your polite then I will usually agree to stop attacking you with them.

Since I started attacking you back at the GoS I don't recall ever getting a pm from any of you asking me to stop. There were multiple times I saw people refer to me as the devil along with other names. That doesn't exactly get you on my good side.

This topic has only succeeded in annoying me. I will continue to train as I have been until my angiens are maxed.

No, I will not be replying to this topic again.
[/quote]

As I said to the DST, I'm the kind of guy who knows how to ask
excuses when I see that I am wrong.
As soon as I made this public issue would like to apologize to you in public.

As might have noticed we are all seeking a common goal.

We started to run and hide just because of the few
players willing to remain [color="#00BFFF"]*idle*[/color]
as anyone who joins our [color="#00BFFF"]*party*[/color] has the right to ask
any kind of ritual, either wins or for mere balance. Be
Win XP with or without. Be rituals to lose XP.

All we would winning if you come to the [color="#00BFFF"]*party*[/color] and say what is in need.
All Online players could use a defense that would help you with
wins / xp for your angiens only if you set them in [color="#00BFFF"]*target dying*[/color] and use some life stealer for XP.

And the only PM I send to you before, was to try see if you can start some kind of common point of agreement and friendship.

Edited January 9, 2011 by Espartano

[Manda]

mmmm That is a lie Eon your Angiens hit my tree when i was idle at the park thas why i get a ton of XP

so at our training spot was the same.. you come and use angiens againts tree we only ask you to use non damage please... dont care if your not set you do that before (use non damage) why the change??

[Curiose]

Obviously I can be rude, as can anyone.

But when people make ridiculous complaints over things like this? Of course I am going to be snappy.

And saying the truth, Manda? Your name is a bit more slandered than you think, what with the drach incident x2, and stealing Awii's can.

[There was a direct comment by Manda towards me, which is why I included him in my response.]

Edited January 10, 2011 by Curiose

[Espartano]

who is the bad guy that dont know how to talk to the others?

IN X Eon 16126 619419 0 10-01-2011 02:07:19

keep giving away tons of personal xp to people that are using REG to help others to lose xp, even say a single word and come in middle of persons kicking away.

[Else]

To start I suggest to calm down. Im another of Eon frequently targets and of course I find that annoying but I take that as part of the game, I must admit I find quite exciting running among the realm to hide and search for a place where he cant break our rituals, and I dont blame him because If I were him I would do the same. Things like this make the game lively and interesting. Fortunately Im not hit by angiens that give me a million xp, that is why I have never asked him to stop the attacks.
I only want to say that discuss about this is useless since I dont think things will change.

[Curiose]

As I said, this is a silly complaint that really has no basis on it -at all- other than:
Eon is finding me, and he is attacking my crits, etc etc etc.

And like myself AND OTHERS have stated previously:
He is a NICE person, who can actually help out if you bother TALKING to the man instead of making said ridiculous posts. He helps me plenty of times, and when he accidentally attacked me: HE APOLOGIZED. Now is that the making of a rude, nasty man who is only out there to terrorize people? Pffft. No.

For another thing, I know how to talk to people nicely, however, like I WILL SAY AGAIN:
when people make ridiculous responses that really are not based off of anything other than people playing by the rules of the game fairly, then I -will- defend that name of said friend/anyone else for that matter.

Now, go ahead and negative rep me because I know you all Loooooove doing that so much because I can stand up and say what I feel is right, even if blunt, but take a step back and take a look at the entire thing and ask yourself if maybe there -is- a bit of truth to what I say.

I am done.

[dst]

This complaint is pointless and useless. Why don't you complain about me? I chased you and broke your rituals. I would do it again if I would have the free time. Luckily for you...I don't...

The community is not supporting you. If you wish to ignore the community go to the higher authorities or sue him (yeah, I'm a big fan of trials ).
I think you received the feedback you wanted so if you don't mind I would like to close this thread.