Chewett

That character was given to... someone i cant remember. its allowed to be out and it will interact with you if you talk with it.

[quote name='Rendril' date='10 August 2010 - 12:48 PM' timestamp='1281440892' post='65588'] If the problem is that the bots need to log in, remove it as a factor. Log them in manually and have the bots keep themselves online. You said they need to log in at specific times, so have them "sleep" when contacted at the wrong time for example. [/quote] Although this would fix the problem partially, there were a few parts that i actually wanted them to be not there and such due to the nature of some of the parts of it. I can see that Mur would prefere no "bots" so as i have said in my first post i shall be using people once my quest has been adapted

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' date='10 August 2010 - 11:37 AM' timestamp='1281436647' post='65580'] how could i improve the current alliance system to better support non fighting guilds? +1000000 defence? ...guild members will NEED to get heat too, it will be a must. I am already working on heat storing recipients so a non fighting guild could comission a fighting guild to refill their heat needs. [/quote] That will merely encourage fighters into the guilds as they would be much stronger than non fighters Perhaps you make the attack cooldown much longer for them, they would be able to be attacked less, so it would mean they fight less.

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' date='10 August 2010 - 10:41 AM' timestamp='1281433318' post='65568'] of course this change was not directed against your future quest, its just bad timing (i had no idea about your quest anyway) assuming you do realize why such a security fix was needed , you may know that logging them and keeping them on is alright because the security fix is ment to prevent fake active days gathering and not to keep player logged out. kaptcha forcing is a way, one that i will try to prevent, but i might not be able to do so untill your quest is over (or i might, which sucks). If you adventure in that direction let me know costs and i might support them. problem with captha breakers is that there are some that break very very advanced captcha and thats why its pointless to do anything more that a normal image. or..you could assign the bots to be kept on by several people, and by that enhance your quest greatly and involve a lot of people without losing any of your work....but complaining seems to be easier somehow. [/quote] Oh im not blaming you, I knew you knew nothing of it, because most people didnt. I was merely working on it to do something during a time when im a little more active. And you did tell me when i talked to you about it, that it could easily be stopped, So im not blaming you for doing it. Im very sure i can do it better with people, it will just take a little changes. Im not entirely sure about your last comment, but it seems to be a jibe at me? im not really sure where that has come from but Meh. As i will say again for you Mur. Im annoyed, but not at you or anyone else just understandablely so since i have lost quite a bit of time. I shall just try and improve it by changing its format, hence why i created this post.

[quote name='Kyphis the Bard' date='10 August 2010 - 09:25 AM' timestamp='1281428740' post='65552'] I don't normally indulge in creature or item trading, however... 9 gold for the Dark, and I can increase that. [/quote] the Dark is being bid in SILVER you have to pay silver for it. Please read the initial post

Happy Birthday Phantasm!

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' date='10 August 2010 - 01:56 AM' timestamp='1281401804' post='65517'] WARNINGS: Leader of the guild will be the one with highest loyalty score, i will not assign a leader. These guilds are tehnically respecting the rules of alliances but i refer to them as guilds because they have nothing to do with fighting. [/quote] [quote name='cutler121' date='10 August 2010 - 06:14 AM' timestamp='1281417252' post='65540'] Is that correct? I didn't see Mur mention that guilds and alliances were the same thing. The new skills addition doesn't really have anything to do with fighting. It would make much more sense if the guilds complemented the alliance system. A woodcutting legend speaker could be different than a miner legend speaker. Cutler [/quote] Its an alliance, you can infer it from that line.

[quote name='Asterdai' date='09 August 2010 - 11:46 PM' timestamp='1281393989' post='65501'] I have access to clickables if you need to go down that route, to hold yours scripts/ information you can still "talk"interactively with them if lots of people have the same clickable with different passcodes i would obviously be willing to help. [/quote] Thanks for the offer, but i already have access to Mdscript and it didnt do what i need/want it to do. [quote name='Kafuuka' date='10 August 2010 - 12:13 AM' timestamp='1281395582' post='65504'] I read the announcement, that's why I said 'remedy'. It still is tricky to know what can be done without knowing what you already did. The most obvious would be to use a captcha forcer - the new login doesn't look terribly complex compared to some i've seen on other sites - or to NEVER log out. Logging in 'manually' and then letting the bot take over should be possible. I assume you're not eager to share your code, but if it's in a language I can read, I might be able to help. (ie the more it looks like c++ the easier for me) [/quote] Im not looking into forcing the captcha because mur implemented it for a reason to block such scripts and keeping the cookie forever had some issues last time i tried it due to how Md's inactivity things work. I see the reason why he has implemented it, and as soon as he knew what i was doing with playing with the scripts he told me outright he can block it, it just so happens that i had forgotten about this as it was several months back.

Please could i be contacted via pm for several different reasons

[quote name='Kafuuka' date='09 August 2010 - 10:54 PM' timestamp='1281390886' post='65491'] Depending on your means it might be simple to remedy. With enough servers/proxies, you could let them be online 24/7 and say the right stuff only at the right moment? It's a bit tricky to say much since i haven't actually tried to make a bot for MD yet, so I don't know all the troubles of keeping them alive and what they can and cannot do. I imagine talking in chat is easy, but moving around seems less straightforward to implement? [/quote] I Had written it. All of it was done, chat talking was nearly perfect if a little temperamental sometimes (nearly fixed it all up), movement completley done, as was battle log reading. It was going well until the latest announcement that i assume you havent read? [2010-08-09 20:30:14 - Stage 10] The login page has been given a security code verification. This appears on all login pages for MD now. If you are unable to log in when entering the correct code or can't see the code, report it immediately.

For the last couple months i have been working on a quest. This would involve several sections including some fighting but mostly a D and D style interactions with "bots". These would form the majority of the quest where you would need to interact with them (in the form of talking, fighting, helping) amoung other things. Now, here comes the issue. With the latest [s]pointless[/s] announcement, all my scripting, the language detecting and such has been [s]ruined[/s] postponed. After spending so much [s]bloody[/s] time on this quest i would quite like to run it. So, because i cannot run the code that i had written, i look to anyone who might be intrested in helping. Currently my bots: Log on at specific times and specific locations Move around specific areas if anyone in chat mentions their name, they would say their usual "stuff" and if any keywords are mentioned it would start several different things. check battle status for losses and such So, if anyone is interested in helping out my quest, i might still be able to run it as it is (although my rather large amount of coding is now useless) but if there is not enough people, i will need to adapt it (more time spent on a quest that was planned to be lauched once i'd picked the bots names and got them to their respective places) Gotta love New features eh? They just screw you over... Contact me via Pm if you want to help, i shall give you more details there

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='09 August 2010 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1281379693' post='65478'] -It is rude when I say its a bit pointless to ask a new player about possible changes around him? furthemore I hardly believe I was the reason of someone leaving the game, you are targeting the wrong old player category (if you define me as old, you phosil I am still in my youth, full of vitality ). [/quote] Yeah, its pretty rude to totally disregard new peoples opinion of what changes they want. They are as valid as you are. And i dont see where you point about people "leaving the game" You seem to have mistaken my point entirely. I may be old here, but i have seen MD grow from not actually being playable. Its doing much better than it ever has been and i feel its getting better. about my "age" in the game, i feel that once you reach a point you are all in the same position, prettymuch after a year or so. [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='09 August 2010 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1281379693' post='65478'] -perhaps. we are still a small community, too many gatherings would only do bad things by dividing people around the ˝globe˝... [/quote] I disagree with this point. During the time GGG was active, there were no more or less people in the normal areas. As you said there is little activity, i dont feel that one extra area will really "decide the community". We all have our action points, lets use them! [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='09 August 2010 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1281379693' post='65478'] -yes little projects, depending on their nature, length, stability... etc. but who would do such things? [/quote] Well it seemed you wanted to do something for the community, so i had thought you wanted to do something. But if that is not the case then i suppose it would have to be someone else. [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='09 August 2010 - 07:48 PM' timestamp='1281379693' post='65478'] But you say ˝breaking things that work˝, how exactly SG works, what does it do ultimately from your point of view? [/quote] I feel that SG is more of a format than actually what it does there. Its somewhere that has a few rules so that most people respect, and it keeps un-consenting fighting down to a minimum. Its a place that allows specific rituals to be given and traded and for people to test new things. You cant force people to do something, so i feel this is a good format to try and get people to learn their own way.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='09 August 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1281356270' post='65465'] I agree mostly with you Chewett except these few things [/quote] Those were my 3 points, you agree with me mostly, except the points i have made. [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='09 August 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1281356270' post='65465'] well what did you expect when asking them anything? for them to say they dont like it when they are free to attack the idlers? (and how can they reply you any decently when they dont know much about MD to state some reasons on up or downside) the question was what good does the grounds really do, ignoring the fact that it doesnt have any real protection. [/quote] This seems a rather rude, and condescending tone to talk about new players. I can see why some of them leave with older players acting like this. This is just plain rudeness, and continuing to say "i know better" [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='09 August 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1281356270' post='65465'] I didnt say that I know the best for this, but that I am of belief that certain changes need to be made for decent inflow of ˝educated˝ mp5s, changing Sparring Grounds isnt the only or perhaps most effective way but it is one of the options (of course it would be cool if more people would try to do something?). [/quote] What you are saying here is that you dont say you know best, but you think that you need to change this. I think there are many more effective ways to make more intelligent mp5's (battlewise) and people like burns are doing exactly that. I dont see why you are so badly wanting to change something that is and has been working well. My suggestion to you Rheagar is to try and do something new, that you can have your "power" over to change however you like. And thus do what you think is nesscary to make these mp5's better. There is no point experimenting with something that is going well, we just need more of these little prodjects that allow more people to do varied things, than break the few working things.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='08 August 2010 - 07:23 PM' timestamp='1281291796' post='65417'] I would like us, the community, to list here all the problems SG makes or might have and good things it does or can do, and then act upon it however. [/quote] After spending some time in SG to have a look about its "issues" and talking to several of the new mp3's i dont actually see any issues. They complain when one person comes in, shouts a bit at them and sometimes the attacker runs off, and sometimes they will apolgise. I dont think that someone attacking now and then is a bad thing. It means its not a sanctuary like place, where you will never get attacked without you wanting to. It means that people can train with less than normal amount of attacks. The Way its currently set up, people uphold it themselves. I like the fact that the people using it are the ones "running" it. We can all go "this is wrong" "that is wrong" "it should be run this way" But we dont know because we dont use it. Some of you may entertain the foolish notion that you know "best" for something. But for an area that you dont use, thinking you know best, is probably a little close to fantasy. Overall i dont think there are any issues with the current system, and from the people i spoke to, they really liked it as it is. You said you were repeating what you have said because people were just saying "no its not" well surely the lack of people giving you ideas to improve it, means its fine as it is?

[quote name='Grido' date='08 August 2010 - 05:05 PM' timestamp='1281283551' post='65411'] I'd think a good idea would be to have a 5 minute delay on the end time. So if anyone bids close to the end time, then the end time gets increased by 5 mins. I believe ebay uses the same idea, or at least very similar. [/quote] Ebay uses an auto bidding system, the person puts what they will bid up to, and then amoung all the people it bids ~£1 more each time until there is only one person who will meet the amount specified.

[quote name='Dmik King' date='08 August 2010 - 10:33 AM' timestamp='1281260018' post='65401'] 2 aged Rusty for Murph. (over 230 age each)(its probably around 16gold value) [/quote] Did you even read the topic? He ONLY wants Coins. No crits.

I think it should be a closed bid As in everyone sends in what they will pay, and the highest wins. Because otherwise people will keep posting up the the last minute, and people will have no time to bid, and there will be upset people.

Curi, sorry to say this but this is too much like the locate spell. I dont see why something would be implmented that duplicates the functionality of a WP spell. And even if it were, no one would then buy the locate spell assuming that this footprint would be cheaper. I think we already have this, as the locate spell.

Happy Birthday Peace! I hope you have a good one.

Of course you will need to speak to Kyphis about this, But i believe your primary role is the first line. Then he lists things that he thinks you might be able to help with. I dont really see an issue with other people doing similar things. And i wouldnt agree with because an alliance does something, you should merely let them do it. I havent seen the LS do any "help with papers" yet have seen a lot of others help their friends with it, would you propose stopping them also? Even if your primary role was to help with papers, there is nothing wrong with comptition? And anyway, who in the LS is helping people with papers currently? if that is one of your main roles why arnt you posting a forum topic similarly. On another note, your guild role should probably be posted in the forum for others to read.

[quote name='redneck' date='06 August 2010 - 10:20 PM' timestamp='1281129607' post='65301'] this may make me look bad but here what i got to say: stay out of other peoples buisness it will get you no where. just like chewett said there is an aliance that passes bpg answer and thid compared to that is small so i say just drop it. [/quote] Oh, no i wouldnt agree with that! You need to confront these people, talk to them and tell them that its bannable. It Might not be bannable, but if you make enough fuss it can be punishable. if they are breaking the rules, tell them, complain and make yourself a real pain in the ass. If you keep doing it something with likely happen. Keep up the good job Curi, Spoilers are for idiots.

[quote name='Curiose' date='06 August 2010 - 06:00 PM' timestamp='1281114007' post='65271'] [u][b]Primary Role [/b][/u] The Legend Speakers are the Storytellers and Keepers of Traditions in the realm. We work with words and art, as well as movement, to entice crowds, teach morals, and aid the youngsters. [b][u]Some of the services we offer[/u][/b] include Story, Poetry, and Music writing, [b]help with editing your papers[/b], crafting character roles, and providing encouragement. We can also be contacted to work with Quest Creators in terms of NPC roles, on top of any normal lyrical works. [/quote] I think these two Key parts are worth remembering. Firstly the help with editing your papers is not one of their primary roles. And secondarily help with editing your papers is something that is a service being offered. And like all services, there are numerous competitors. However if i am wrong and Kyphis is claiming sole "right" to be helping people with papers, then he is being foolish.

His post is a muddle of responses to parts of what Z said. i would post a "fixed" version but im not sure about some of it.

What exatly do you propose? People already regulate it enough. I see no way of regulating it more than the current. A Certain alliance feels its alright to pass around the BPG Answer, but what can you do?

[quote name='Curiose' date='06 August 2010 - 05:41 PM' timestamp='1281112889' post='65267'] There are areas forbidden to normal players who are not admins? And if so, how come? [/quote] Some areas are just not finished or ready for normal people to be going around. One Such place is the drachorn cave where people may recruit There are some areas where you can only get after spending a wishpoint or During a torch contest. This has just been made to make it harder to enter places.