Ivorak

*generally dislikes Savels because they're too...religious-y* x3

*disagrees with this*

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[/b]PLAINS OF HELL FACTION


I am Tara the Demon-Princess and I was chosen to be the Heir to the Trone
of Hell by my uncle.
Because of the fact that Hell creatures have no home place I made this Faction.
It is now stil a small faction but in time it will grow.

[img]http://magicduel.com/userfiles/154584/hell_070706_ms.jpg[/img]
a picture of home the Plains of Hell


When invited by me ore a factionmember you can a member of this faction
and we are picky *chuckles*
You must be evil ore a wanabee evil being.


The rules of joining the Faction Plains of Hell:
* Obay my comands and do take my (Tara/Ladytwin) advice when given.
* Help other Hell Creatures.
* Work on making Tara Town real in the mind of others and your self.
* Make evil plans and have fun. (but plans involving others run them
by me to be shure they are oke)
* We demons love to have fun so have fun like I do *winks*
* Copy this page in your pages somewhere.

Optional (just for the fun of it *winks*)

* Add me (Tara/Ladytwin) to your friend list.
* Be my (Ladytwin) adept.

Follow these rules as much as your own nature allows.

[img]http://magicduel.com/userfiles/154584/666-b.jpg[/img]
When given this will be our flag some day

All Hell Creatures are welcome to live in Tara Town (GoC)
[img]http://magicduel.com/userfiles/154584/ScreenHunter_02%20Jul.%2014%2011.48.gif[/img]
Plains of Hell Members:

Leader:
Tara/Ladytwin

Members:

Teufelhunden
Two Sides
Robin Mea
Cloud Elite
Jack Begemot
Shaogorath
Ectremere
Freezeblink

This is an out if date of date application my up to date one is two down

I should start by mentioning that i am not insane, i know how many things still need to be done, fixed, etc, i know i allready started other new features (like the other combat system) that i never finished, or the bot, or the factions, or mp7, or fixing tokens, or the translator, or the torch competition rewarding system or many more .... but without playing around with new features, i cant exist .. i dont have fun in md without doing this so .. LET ME PLAY


So, achievemtns page, new feature in work (i promise i'll work on it only after i do a bit on the pending stuff each day )

Main ideea:
a section within the interface with medal looking items, that will activate one item when you fullfill certain requirements.

Expansion ideea:
probably allready implemented from the start, the ability to create custom achievements so that they can assigned to individuals (rpcs, wishshop, side quests etc). An other thing, "on demand" achievements, for example you are assigned a task that will give you a specific achievement, untill you are assigned that task you will never know that achievement medal existed.

Achievemtents will be mainly granted by a system check based on some rules, but it could be also a custom rpc ability, for example for achievemtnts that involve communication or trading skills, and a human to decide who gets the medal.

Tehnical issues:
It will be very server intensive to constantly check achievements especialy if i plan to make them so highly configurable and personalizable. Thats why, they will be checked only on request by clicking a "check" button under each pending/disabled medal (let me know how it sounds or if you have better ideas)

Artworks:
i don't have them right now but they wont be a problem once i decide the main list. They will be colored probably and looking sort of alliance logos but with a medal-like feeling.

Logic:
Here i need your help. I do have plenty ideas, but i defenetly want to hear suggestions, in an organised form please (list or other way)

Achievement ideeas for example:


- "Full glow" :: get all creatures max level and minimum 6 creatures
- "Beasts mark" :: get vitality and value points at 666 at the same time
- "Noob trader" :: aquire a creature by ctc, one that was allready traded before and has before transfer at least 50 days.
- "Master trader" :: all you creatures were transfered by ctc at least once
- "Burst Burner" :: trigger a certain number of bursts
- "Combo Fighter" :: have 3 active rituals with 100 won fights (combo)
- "Above money" :: increase max vp over 100k
- "LHO" :: be promoted to lho (regardless if you get demoted after)
- "Apprentice Spellcaster" :: master at least 3 different spells
- "Mark of History" :: get something in the realm marked permanently by you, like place name, or other
- "Persistent Traveler" :: get over 500 visits in a place
- "Spellcaster" :: aquire all spell docs up to level 6 for any spell
- "Spell medal ??" :: one for each complete spelldoc series you have
- "WP collector" :: For reaching 10 wp
- "Creature collector" :: For having at least X creatures and each one of different kind (regardless of level)
- "???" :: for having at least 20 creatures all of a non damaging type (no other creatures)
- "Rich Nabab" :: for spending X amount in the mdshop
- "Creature Master" :: for having all creatures at max level and at least 20
- "Colored Creature Master" :: for having all creatrures at max level and premium and at least 20
- "Navigator" :: For visiting 100 different map locations
- "Explorer" :: For visiting 200 different map locations
- "???" :: For visiting 300 different map locations (there will be one for 400 too, soon)
- "Mr/Ms Popularity" :: For having over 100 friends
- "Stigmata" :: For doing something realy bad but still managing to remain unbanned
- "Alliance Leader" :: For getting leadership of an alliance at least once
- "Protector" :: For reaching Mp6
- "Rotten egg" Having an egg in your creatures for over 200 days without upgrading it.
- "Unholy gathering" Having 12 or more maxed unholy priests at the same time.
- "Sleepwalker" Stay online for 48 hours straight without going idle. (not sure i can)
- "That gotta hurt" lose 300 figts in a row.


(thinking on more, keep writing suggestions in a clear form pls)



both very easy to achieve things and dificult things

Interface:
i could splitt up the page in dificulty levels or just let a huge achievements page scroll, both sound fine to me....so let me know your clear list, based on the things you think they could be possible to count/masure/detect in the current system (as much as you know it)

On the character detail panel when clicking an ohter player, i think there can be a small sign to show that when clicked it will open on the entire panel a list of achievement ICONS

it is possible to get a drawn feel to the game with the right camera angle, and only drawn shadows..... no player shadows.... i think it could be achived to give it the drawn look it currently has......oh and you don't have to give me negative rep just because you say no
and that means not doing the same thing to this message as well.

As mur spoke of in one of his long messages it was some time ago, and i had forgotten until just now, but i think that if we had a lot more more players online at once than we currently do, it wouldn't work to have to scroll down a page something like twice the current length of a mosly empty md page, and the chat in that case would be hard to read, however if it were in a 3D environment, you wouldn't have the problems with the chat being over crowded, as you would only pick up the people within a certain distance of you, and it would also open up more roplay oppertunities, as isn't that what this game is about the roleplaying? although we would have to figure out how to get the fights integrated into a 3D world.... but i think it would be worth it..... and we would also have to figure out how to mark the bounderies of md..... and the map might have to be slightly bigger..... and you would have to figure out how to integrate the story mode, and tutorial into this..... and we would need some decent 3D artists for the entire thing, and we must find out how to make this all work.....

i will continue to edit this list of things to find/figure out as this topic progresses, and i will actually make it into a list, and not just a long paragraph....

Having worked as a mod on a game with a single-account rule, I can safely say it is almost impossible to enforce, for reasons others have mentioned above. IPs, cookies, etc.. are not reliable, and there is no sure way to identify multiple accounts of the same player, short of endless hours of work for mods comparing login data, analysing activity, friends, even dialects...

But there are worse problems than that. Any time a hard, abitrary rule like this is set, it [i]Invites[/i] many people to make workarounds. You will be encouraging new, secretive, methods for behaving in ways that are not now really harmful. And once you stigmatise things, it's hard to go back and in some ways encourages more scurrilous activity. So I say, leave it as it is. And monitor for gross abuses only. Farms, etc.. what makes the game truly unfair.

I agree with the above suggestions that it might help if it were possible to restrict certain transactions like shop purchases and CTC to only chars with a certain amount of activity...But how hard is it to get an AD? What is a proper disincentive to have golem alts, or incubators?

I did used to RP two chars here, as autonomous and unique individuals with separate lives, friends, goals and interests. One of them ironically had her life ended more or less because of someone else's banning for abuse of alts....

well if new players see there profile they will get the wrong image that these people are bad and stuff... But i don't really mind about this, and yes i got -11 hehe

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I do not know who is marking my profile with bad reputation but I want a stop to it. I have not been posting on the Forums that much do to moving and when I put a friendly complaint in my status message, it went from -9 to -10.

My profile is about me and my character. I do not flame anyone and most of my postings are done with humor. The Forum is for expressing ideas and opinions and I do not believe players have to be given a reputation rating because someone does not like what they wrote. The Forum is for sharing ideas, projects, quests and even disagreements. Freedom of Speech is being violated here.

No where on my profile does it say WHY the reputation has been marked and by whom. I believe this has become an abusive ability of Moderators and respectfully ask that the negative reputation be removed. Personal feelings and egos should have no place in the Forum.

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1)Freedom of Speech is being violated here.
2)No where on my profile does it say WHY the reputation has been marked and by whom.
3)I believe this has become an abusive ability of Moderators and respectfully ask that the negative reputation be removed.
4)Personal feelings and egos should have no place in the Forum.
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1)Exactly! Rep is a way for the users to express their feelings anonymously (it's their right - that's why we have secret votes and such).So denying it would be a violation of other freedoms.
2)That's the hole purpose.
3)Are you kidding me? What in the world have mods to do with YOUR reputation? Do you think we chase you all over the forum and give you negative points? Shish...
4)The forum is exactly the place to display your ego. In game you cannot do it cause of the limited interaction. But forum is the place to show your ideas (as you have said). And ideas cannot be presented blunt..without the touch of each one's personality. In this way you show part of who you are (moreover:we do not RP on the forum) and this game is full of players with big egos.

Does reputation affect anything? If not, why do you care? If it does mean that much to you then try to look at which posts have negative reputation and then figure out why they do. I don't really see this as an issue that deserves time spent on it, complaining about it will just get you more negative reputation probably.

The one thing I didn't see mentioned here is Free Will. Unfortunately, Free Will makes everyone do things he usually wouldn't do until someone comes along and shows him that anyone can.

Now before anyone becomes sarcastic, I am speaking of puns and not really being specific about Free Will (whomever he/she is). Puns in role playing makes for hilarious reading only for those who have been playing the game long enough to know who those characters are. The use of names for example; dst, everyone, Peace and Mur help me, Bob, can cause symptoms of PML, ROFLing if used in the right context. Let me pick on Dst here for a moment and let poor everyone have some Peace. When one battles with Dst and gets their Army wiped out, the saying "I've been Dst." become a pun. If there is another term for it, I am sure I will be corrected immediately if not ASAP.

Game terms is another way to use puns in role playing. To list a few; brisk, heat, regenerate, and the most used one, Dead Girl. Using the Blue chat, one might type thus: Sagewoman: *watches Dead Girl walk by Briskly, her face Heated, trying to Regenerate some composure*.

So, what am I getting at here? The use of Humor in role playing. As most know, Windy (proprietor and owner of the Wind and Rain Pub in Winds Sanctuary) and I use puns all the time in our role play. We shamelessly use character names and game terms that are guaranteed to make inhabitants to use the slang, LOL, ROFL, and my personal favorite, PIMP in the chat.

Like Godmoddling, not everyone likes it, approves of it, but Mur Help Me (another pun)it's Liberating to let some of the frustration and Real Real anxieties out!

I kind of think of helping the newbies out at the very beginning of their entrance to the world, I personally believe, if you introduce them to RP at their early age, tell them a few stories about some story, help orientate them to the World of MD, don't bias them to lean to any one side, teach them the very few rules of this great game, essentially, be a mentor.

It gives them a much easier start, a better understanding of what goes on in the world, and helps ensure that MD will have a fresh batch of good people that will make the game more interesting.

Don't see this happening soon, but I like to give thanks to all of the live help and veterans that dedicate their time to helping new people out.

of course there is my personal pet peeve of idiots that use abbreviations of English words, furthering the language being butchered into just bizarre things.... Cheers!

((This is one of my favorite topics. I will break my own tradition here and speak entirely out-of-character.

Roleplay is as much about what a character canNOT do as what she can do. A character's concept is defined by the player's imagination, but should also be informed by the setting. In most RPGs, the setting is explicit and very narrowly defined - very few people play D&D or World of Warcraft expecting to portray Wild West gunslingers or 20th Century Mafia dons. Because MagicDuel does not force the matter on players, we see a very wide variety of characters in the game.

That's fine. It might even be good, if we were to develop a meta-plot about how the realm of MagicDuel entraps entities from other worlds. But all players should understand something: [u]if your character had powers in the world where you conceived him, he almost certainly no longer has them in MagicDuel[/u]. This is not a blow to the character, but an opportunity for character growth, a chance to demonstrate roleplaying skill. Do you fancy yourself a good roleplayer? Good. You're normal. Play that role and make it convincing. Look at LunarGoddess - here's a deity who has lost her power. Here's an immortal who has fallen in love with a mortal man. She has a story to tell.

I run a lot of tabletop roleplaying campaigns. If you sat down at one of my D&D games and told me that your character is a half-demon with spell-like abilities, I'd laugh in your face. Why? Because the game includes rules for those kinds of things, and you can't just declare that you want them. If you can have them at all, such as the demonic heritage, the spell-like abilities will come gradually. When everyone is a super bad-ass, the game is BORING. What is interesting? Uncertainty; bluffing an entity you are sure can kill you; holding your breath as the GM rolls the dice, knowing the result could mean the difference between life and death for a beloved character.

Don't bore us with magical powers you assigned your character. We have no reason to believe in them, because the game has a system for magical powers. Those who have magical powers worked hard to get them. Don't tell us about your awesome gear or unstoppable fighting ability: the game has a fighting system and gear. If you are a super bad-ass fighter, word will get around.

Roleplay fighting almost invariably fails because it has no system of governance. It is therefore my opinion, after months of experimentation, that it has no place in MagicDuel. Sparrhawk makes an excellent point: if you're just sparring, you should be willing to take a beating now and again. If you're only going to win every fight, you will be boring... and you will end up being ignored by people who are actually using the system to fight with each other. The very idea!

Outlandish roleplay almost invariably fails because it sets too few (or no) limitations on itself. For every Innocence, a really brilliant character with amazing inventiveness that has nothing to do with combat, role-played or otherwise, there are twenty demon-heritage warriors with elemental magic that has no in-game effect whatsoever.

If you are a roleplayer, [i]do not ignore the system[/i]. Use its limitations as a springboard for your creativity. Have you noticed that no one bleeds in MagicDuel? That the sun never sets? That stacks of gold magically replenish themselves over time?

How will you explain these things? What will they mean to your character? What will your story be in this world?

We are waiting to be entertained. Some of us are ready to entertain you, too.))

Seeing as Magic Duel is an online roleplaying game, I think it's important that people roleplay. An online game without roleplaying is simply mechanics without flavour. It would be battles only, there would be no adventure log, no quests, and every room would be filled with chat about the weather, work, common gossip, and the like.

Does this sound extremely boring to anyone else?

After I explored the mechanics of the game and the fighting for my first five months or so on the game, I gave away and sacrificed all of my creatures. I took a big step towards embracing the game on another level, to interact with people as my character, to be only as my role allowed. And you know something, it is much more fun for me to do that than to run around attacking people, trying different strategies and combat rituals. Every mechanic that is set in stone has a formula for success -- experience and thinking will eventually yield the result that would make you invincible. That, and a lot of time to grind. Or money to buy the tokens. Again, boring.

Roleplaying is the underlying fabric of the game, the interactions between the people is what becomes engrossing, makes me want to come back for more. To make friends and enemies, to share in the things we create for our characters. We each have a role to play, we each have stories to co-create with the other players.

Like Shadow said, it's about us all contributing to the living book that is MD. And I don't blame Z for simply ignoring the preposterous godmodding that he undoubtedly has to suffer through on a weekly basis. Bob has become a living, real part of the game, first through Z's singular dedication, and then through the other players buying into the idea and carrying it on. There are other things like this out there now -- newly seeded trees, for one example -- that add to the nature of the game and invite all participants to experience it.

Our words and actions create a new dimension to the game, one that is overlayed the base mechanics. And it is good roleplaying that creates it, makes it interesting, sustainable, and ultimately enjoyable for all.

That's my 0.02.

i knew ya cant trust archies, too subjective, cmon... marv isnt king yet, i dont see crown, and wodin defeated? no he gave up, thats A LOT different, in this story it seems like khal won war and beated woddy, which isnt true, its pretty simple khal was slain at house of ld, wot happened after that i am not sure of coz i dont understand it but i remember that khal himself claimed that khal which was once the man doesnt exist anymore and this new joined gray one took his place... or something like that, well idk, but my point is... ya made khal look like winner, while there was no real winners, sentineles suffered great loss, shades got balanced which ended up in weakening them, and woddy gave up from fight he WASNT defeated

An other ideea i was thinking of doing later, when wish shop will be more complete.
A central resource with rewards of all kinds, where quest makers, non-rpc including, can pick rewards based on previous rating for their quests, and use rewards from this resource FREELY to give to other players for solving their quests.

My english is bad tonight it seems, so lets try again ...
One centralised resource, with:
- creatures
- predefined md shop items, such as tokens, powerups etc
- avatars
- items
- wishpoints

Players of all kind that can do quests with their current abilities, abilities that they work hard to achieve, either by solving other quests or by other ways, get the right to distribute some of these rewarding resources to other players. The amount of rewards they get access to will be based on the quality of their previous quests, the more interesting quests you do the better rewards you are allowed to give.

This resource will be filled by rpcs, from sanctions, periodicaly. For example after i sanctioned the drachorn holders some time ago, i ended up with a buch of drachorn, creatures that i sometimes use as rewards. In the same way, these creatures, or other things, could be used to stimulate other players to create interesting quests and stimulate others to solve those quests and not only rpc quests.

Its a delicate thing, because combined with the wish shop that gives out important abilities, it will compete with the rpcs in a big way. The rpcs will remain the only source for wishpoints, the wp that get into this central resource are wp gathered from baned players, penalties, donated by players with many wp, or other. The creatures will probably be the most common rewards. The items could be made specialy for this resource by the krafters.

Its still an open ideea, with a long deadline, but please share your opinion on it. Do you think this will be a good, great or terrible thing for the evolution of md? There is no need to go into details about possible bugs, but you can share your oppinion on logic flaws that you can forsee.

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' date='08 August 2009 - 02:53 AM' timestamp='1249692790' post='38945']
An other idea i was thinking of doing later, when wish shop will be more complete.
A central resource with rewards of all kinds, where quest makers, non-rpc including, can pick rewards based on previous rating for their quests, and use rewards from this resource FREELY to give to other players for solving their quests.
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I like the idea but I would change the requirements. Quests vary a lot in quality and quantity. To extrapolate based on previous ratings isn't going to give accurate estimates. Instead the quest for which a reward is wanted should be reviewed. The obvious choice is to have a couple of independent reviews from RPCs. Some sort of entrance requirement based on public vote wouldn't hurt to keep the RPCs from doing overtime.

1. Player makes a trial quest, which is rated by everybody that tries the quest.
2. Player makes a quest for which they want to give a reward and submits this.
3. Three RPCs independently review the quest and report how much they think the reward should be, if any.
4. Player runs the quest and distributes rewards; RPCs monitor the process.
5. Jump to step 2.
If at any point in the above scheme the outcome is negative, go back to step 1.

Why make it three independent reviews? I am sad to say it but I don't believe in RPC objectivity and having multiple opinions should decrease the odds of subjective reviews. Since it should not be the same three to review all quests and there is an entrance requirement, I don't think the workload will be that high.
Practically I'd suggest a list of submitted quests that all RPCs can see. They can then decide if they want to review any of them and quests that have been reviewed three times are removed from the list. Maybe include a button to indicate which quest is being reviewed, just in case 4 people start doing it at the same time.

Think I may have caught this idea from someone else but...

What if there were a set of standardized, easy quests on every RPC "Q" page. Example : A quest to go get your documents, which rewards a standard amount, something pretty easily acquired, like a silver coin or whatnot. Again, this exact same quest would be viewable on every RPC. These simple quests could be limited to MP3 levels in order to encourage people to stay interested in the game, and involved. Obviously getting your documents is a one time deal, but you could potentially even have repeatable, easy quests.

[quote name='Firsanthalas' date='07 August 2009 - 12:23 PM' timestamp='1249640622' post='38903']
Personally, I don't see why we shouldn't be able to exclude players from quests. For example, if I find people cheating in a quest, why should I allow them participate in other quests?
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Seems fair to me, but what will stop them from using an alt to solve the quest?

Denying quests for personal reasons doesn't seem constructive to me. Instead of allowing a person with a different opinion to see something you made and perhaps get a more positive opinion of you, you invite those people into disagreeing even more. It is entirely human to respond in kind; denying quests to those who deny you. At the end of such an escalation, both parties will be exhausted and look like fools in the eyes of neutral observers. In this kind of battle you cannot win, you can only cut your losses.