Magnus X

i can trace that Jason Chan character, replace the eye-patch with sun glasses, shorten the hair to a crop, lose the sword and cape, put a pistol on both hands, and replace the boots with a cowboy's. would that be copying?

if you talk about positions, i dont believe theres not a single position that hasnt been drawn yet. look at comics... the angles may be slightly different, the shapes and the sizes, the lithe or the bulk of the characters but they all have similarities (im talking about human or superhuman, if you will, characters here). but theres no copyrighted positions that i know of so you can copy positions, even styles, but the look can be more controversial. its 'possible' that the MD avatar one is not a copy but is it 'probable'? its probably a copy, by the looks of it, imho.
i say if you take a balance scale and place the two avatars on each side, they'd weigh exactly the same despite the other being gold.

[b][font="Arial"][size="3"]this is me saying THANK YOU for all of you who have expressed your sympathy. i appreciate it more than you know...... it gives me more reasons to hope in the goodness of people.
my family is more closer now than ever in many ways... i thank the cosmos and i thank you my friends
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[b][font="Arial"][size="3"]this is me saying THANK YOU for all of you who have expressed your sympathy. i appreciate it more than you know...... it gives me more reasons to hope in the goodness of people.
my family is more closer now than ever in many ways... i thank the cosmos and i thank you my friends
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thanks Pample, thats sweet!

Yoshi, you like yellow tomatoes. thats good enough for me!
me, i like banana ketchup *chuckles chuckles*

For he's a jolly POTATO, for he's a jolly POTATO
For he's a jolly POTATO (pause), and so say all of us
And so say all of us, and so say all of us

For he's a jolly POTATO, for he's a jolly POTATO
For he's a jolly POTATO (pause), and may he fry his brain

happy birthday!

I dislike that military take overs ain't possible.

So called "diplomacy" falls down to having people that are relatively close to Mur that can lobby to force some kind of change, and so called "diplomacy" has nothing to do with the gameplay. Rebels are supposed to fill some kind of non-written requirements so their demands can be fulfilled... pfff.
Please make some basic rules on what can be expected of the feature without divine intervention.

I think that the possibility of a military take over should be possible, also it can be used in land wars (most probably and for the best as well is that all kings maintain some kind of status quo when its about territory issues, but it is pretty logical that in an RP world that tries to make realistic environment and feedback it should be allowed for some King to mark his new territory and kick all the rest who defy him if he's strong enough to)

I just find this "king immunity" concept ridiculous... Kings of certain groups are chosen from those groups, and it is up to the people to follow the person... To overthrow (if have enough power to) or serve if they want... But the system favors the king rather than any other group.
Those roles shouldn't be called Kings at least, but Moderators of Mainlands.

Interesting how Aaront222's opinion was still pushed into the negative, even though he made a very good post.

Anyway, being that I have yet to see any 'Mur' imposed 'land rules', other than the 'don't break the game rules', the king could do such a thing.
It would be quite, quite interesting to see the effects of such a rule and possible rebellion afterwards.

Why doesn't the king of a land just make a rule saying "Thou shall not rebel while thou est a citizen of my land." Or alike.

[quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1289482862' post='71894']
Look you are trying to be a smart ass about this topic.
The kingship has responded to the anouncment in here and you come along and say stop moaning.
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I am not trying to be a smart ass, Yrthilian and if you could put aside your arrognace you would see it. And yes, I am saying stop moaning. Cause this is what you all people know to do nowadays. Moan, moan, moan, whine, whine, whine. In my years in MD, I have learned that changes don't just take place from one day to another. It requires time. And of course, patience that you are lacking. I say my opinion and immediately you jump on me, running your own conclusions about me, when you have absolutely no idea what I am saying or what I believe.

I resigned from my Queenship long before the kingship items, except the seal, even were created. I am not a kingship expert, those who are already wear their crowns over their heads and have some abilities. I am talking as a mere citizen in a realm of constant changes and since it isn't me who makes the changes, I subside and let those who do them deal with the concequences. Turn your rant about Kingship elsewhere, not at me.

And this is my final word to you, Yrthilian. I believe it is time to go back on topic. Leave with it and move on. I am not obligated to responde to any more of your rants so it stops here, I hope.

Look you are trying to be a smart ass about this topic.
The kingship has responded to the anouncment in here and you come along and say stop moaning.

You tried to be smart in other peoples responce
I have an opinion about your statment and with what and how you say it
If you dont like it well not my problem

In regards to the word i use and what you expect well that too is your problme
The forum is for out of game responces and not my character in game unless otherwise stated.
This is easly recognised by me useing the king sig i have for offical Golemus anouncments.

you also point to what you think is fact in regards to the kingship. when the post you point to does
NOT say what the king is and what they do it outlines some of what a king is. The king has not been
granted the ablities promises for the position but the king does work with the staff to get things done.

There is a precemtion in the realm that kings have all thies great ablities and can change things on a whim
well we cant we do not have all the extra ablities people assume we have and we are as in the dark when things happen
in MD. this was a fact stated in public and it is said stop moaning.

This is now starting to turn into a sensles topic. started with sencless replies.

[color="#2e8b57"][i]Forgive my ignorance but what is the role of the kings?

From what I see, they are just here to dish out Wp's and take flak when things go wrong?[/i][/color]

[quote name='Sharazhad' timestamp='1289474489' post='71884']
[color="#2e8b57"][i]Forgive my ignorance but what is the role of the kings?

From what I see, they are just here to dish out Wp's and take flak when things go wrong?[/i][/color]
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I believe this may help:
http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/5314-kings/page__pid__44123__st__0&#entry44123

[quote name='DarkPriestess' timestamp='1289472700' post='71882']
Don't complain about the changes that come, just deal with them the best you can.

I understand the frustration of the Kings. But in the years that I spend here, like many of us, I have been affected by changes in the past. But I can not ask to have a heads up, noone can, no even Mur. Do people ask Mur EVER before they do something that will require him to eventually change something? If something gets abused, he is the one who pulls the snake from the hole. And nobody asks him, it is what he must do so that all of you get pleased. Of course, this will affect others in the process but like always, we find our ways out of it and move on.

You have questions to be answered? This is what the forum is used for.

So, on another note.
Though I just woke up, I still don't have full connection with the enviroment around me. Has anything changed in the interface? Am I suppose to see a rebel button somewhere and I can't? Or it is only the King's interface that is/will be changed?
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That is a load of BS sorry but it is.
This chage was in the plans and was beeing worked on so there had to be enough time to send a quick message to the kingship
Just a heads up and the likes. It is not that we are complaining but if Kingship people are suppose to run their lands and something comes along like this to make a big change it is always good to be prepaired and be able to answer question.

The think is Kingship people a looked at to have some answeres as it is seen that we are closer to the main man compaired to mast.
So the things just get implemented. There is now a group of people helping Mur with MD so it would be logical to say that they new of the change before it was to happen. So why could they not comunicate this to the kingship. No one said it had to be approved by the kings but they should know what is comming that will make such a large change in the realm. Kingship dont have to like it just know it is happining. you never know we may even have good ideas to implement within the new system.

Some changes happen quickly i for one get that and know it can happen but some changes take time so there is time to tell some of the chamges and what they will do. It is a way of making some changes easer to intergrate. As a king myself i know the frustration of not knowing about a change and then having to quicky fly off a message to Mur to aske what the effects are and bombard him with questions. If i had a little mail tellimg me this change for the land is comming this is the effect. I at least would be able to tell other when the questions start comming in. It makes sence to let the kingship know of things like this. The forum is one place used to rais question but it is also helpfull if in game changes can be addressed in game too.

Sorry i am anoyed about this responce of the deal with it. It is commen sence to let the people know of things like this even if it is only 24 hours before the change hell even if it is 12 hours.

I have to agree with firs on this.

The kingship is suppose to be a direct line in a way to the powers that be.
But yet again something gets changed and the kingship is in the dark about it.

This same thing happened with the woodcutter and i said the same thing.
Look what happened there. To me it is a mess and still is but that is another issue.

This idea is good i like it. But again would have been nice to get a heads up first.

Well I just want to say that I am really unhappy about this.
Its just another thing that, in my opinion has been fired out there without any consultation or advance warning for kings. I am not saying that I am against it, but I really think that the kings should have been consulted about it as it directly affects them and they may have had useful opinions on the matter.
I also feel that currently kings are pretty hamstrung by bringing this out. When kings were first brought in there were plans for abilities and privilages for kings to help people. They never really happened and I personally feel that has left kings in a poor state of affairs in the minds of many. If a king is not doing their job, or doing it badly or abusing their power, then yes they should be punished and people should be able to rebel. But having kings abused and rebelled against for an inability to do things beyond their control is also unfair. I've already seen at least one thread with certain people bitching (Sorry, but that is what some people are doing) about kings. And experienced it in private and not so private ways too.

This may seem like I'm simply crossing my arms and acting out. I'm not. Communication works both ways and I really feel that the people that have been tasked with running MD could communicate a bit more. One of the problems in the past was that Mur was a single person trying to do everything. That meant that he couldn't possibly respond to everyone and as a result some people felt unheard. There is now a team of people and that means more ears to listen, but it also means more mouths for talking.

Please consider things like this as an example. There is mention of land rules now. Who makes them? There are also rules that the kings make. If kings have no idea as to what is coming down the line, what happens if they make a rule that directly contradicts or turns out to be illegal under land rules that just suddenly appear later on?
You aren't meant to answer that by the way, just consider the implications and the possibility that it could happen.
If a person rebels what? About the only thing I can see that they will loose is the king granting them WPs for quests (and thats only if they even bother to run any), big whoop. It just doesn't seem like a big enough deterrent from going rebel or a big enough reason to stay loyal for that matter.

In my experience I also find that with any changes that affect Loreroot, I get a barrage of questions and concerns from people. The Woodcutters being a brilliant example. I am sure its the same for the others kings.
Given that I find out no sooner than anyone else (and in some case after the fact due to not being up 24 hours a day) it leaves me on the backfoot. I can't answer the questions because I don't know anymore than the people asking them. Personally, it makes me feel rather stupid for the most part. Its only natural that people expect their leaders to know answers to certain questions, especially when you expect the king to know about his own land and its workings. And its only natural to walk away from a king saying 'first I heard of it', 'I don't know' '' Your guess is as good as mine', and think, jeesh, that guy is a total twit.

(Note: I could have emailed this to the powers that be. My reasoning for saying this in public is to make people aware that kings are as much in the dark about things like this as anyone else. It may be seen as a method to throw mud in the eyes of those in charge, but that is not my intention. I'm simply stating my opinion and feelings on this openly.)

I'll finish my rant by saying clearly that I like the ideas in principle, but I feel that as with most things they have not been handled very well and fired out without proper support or consideration. You're releasing Windows Vista when you should be hanging on and just going to windows 7.

Don't complain about the changes that come, just deal with them the best you can.

I understand the frustration of the Kings. But in the years that I spend here, like many of us, I have been affected by changes in the past. But I can not ask to have a heads up, noone can, no even Mur. Do people ask Mur EVER before they do something that will require him to eventually change something? If something gets abused, he is the one who pulls the snake from the hole. And nobody asks him, it is what he must do so that all of you get pleased. Of course, this will affect others in the process but like always, we find our ways out of it and move on.

You have questions to be answered? This is what the forum is used for.

So, on another note.
Though I just woke up, I still don't have full connection with the enviroment around me. Has anything changed in the interface? Am I suppose to see a rebel button somewhere and I can't? Or it is only the King's interface that is/will be changed?

Umm...if you would post the image so we can actually see the avatars maybe I could tell you what it's wrong with them. If I would have the power to guess...I would definitely NOT be here playing the game but spending the tons of money I would've won from the lottery.

MD is already using Flash i believe. yes, i would want to see more animation myself. it would certainly look great but the servers wont be able to handle it, i think. we have lagging problems as it is but i think its more to do with the servers upgrading. im no techie so i could be wrong. in terms of MD's popularity, i see new players come in ever so often and people have been liking the simple yet awesome black and white atmosphere MD is known for so i dont think we really have a problem with that. thats how i got hooked in the first place . if we need to boost MD we'd have to support it by buying credits so Mur can spend more and continue making the machine that churns MD's awesomeness run better. i reckon.

oooppss... i read your post again and understand now that you want to do this outside MD. well i think that would be cool. just dont forget to get a stamp of approval from the powers that be.

MD is already using Flash i believe. yes, i would want to see more animation myself. it would certainly look great but the servers wont be able to handle it, i think. we have lagging problems as it is but i think its more to do with the servers upgrading. im no techie so i could be wrong. in terms of MD's popularity, i see new players come in ever so often and people have been liking the simple yet awesome black and white atmosphere MD is known for so i dont think we really have a problem with that. thats how i got hooked in the first place . if we need to boost MD we'd have to support it by buying credits so Mur can spend more and continue making the machine that churns MD's awesomeness run better. i reckon.

oooppss... i read your post again and understand now that you want to do this outside MD. well i think that would be cool. just dont forget to get a stamp of approval from the powers that be.

the king - subject, president - artist analogy is unsound. comparing a country's huge population and political and social complexity to the mini world of MD doesn't fit. and in real world, we do have censors - we have the freedom to do anything we want but it doesn't mean it'll get approved.

Moreover, kingship is a monarchy, not a democracy therefore a king's wishes is the law of the land. so whats the issue here? is it the establishment of the kingship that you are against of? did you not imply that they were put into power unjustly? were they not elected by the masses? were they not chosen based on highest loyalty points to their respective lands? is it not only right that one should call upon their king's advice before undertaking a project or campaign?
thats the root of the matter (not the inn ), is it not?

MD is a reflection of RL, what do you expect?

the king - subject, president - artist analogy is unsound. comparing a country's huge population and political and social complexity to the mini world of MD doesn't fit. and in real world, we do have censors - we have the freedom to do anything we want but it doesn't mean it'll get approved.

Moreover, kingship is a monarchy, not a democracy therefore a king's wishes is the law of the land. so whats the issue here? is it the establishment of the kingship that you are against of? did you not imply that they were put into power unjustly? were they not elected by the masses? were they not chosen based on highest loyalty points to their respective lands? is it not only right that one should call upon their king's advice before undertaking a project or campaign?
thats the root of the matter (not the inn ), is it not?

MD is a reflection of RL, what do you expect?

Just one thing: it has happened before ( i remember having like 9 credits there when the links were suspended - that thought me to transfer credits when it was possible ) and MD lived...

As being a person who uses only free credits...I don't like this more then you do. But...as I already said: I've learned to respect Mur's decisions.

As the topic name says.

I have tons of reasons to be pro this idea but I want to hear your pros and cons.

Meh...I cant' believe it!!! Ok..now I can die peacefully...bug reports when there is no bug and double bug reports WHEN THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN REPORTED! USE THE SEARCH BUTTON FOR GOD'S SAKE!

CLOSED!

I differ significantly on the following:

You find fault with the system, I find fault with the individual.

For instance, you say "Fixed authorities make limitations to our thoughts, and remove the freedom of ideas."

The thing with authority is that each person chooses to follow their leader; no one forces anyone to become a citizen, and in truth there isn't anything physically limiting any one of us. Kings can't imprison non-citizens, and besides harassment (which is against the rules anyways), they shouldn't be able to significantly affect the game experience of any person not directly a part of their land.

Instead of being limited by Kings and rulers, we are limiting ourselves by following them in the first place.

My creativity, my writing, is not limited in any way. If Yrhtilian (my King) were to tell me to stop writing, I wouldn't give a moments thought to leaving my current alliance. Perhaps by pointing the finger at those in power, you're trying to get around the truth: you, and no one else, is responsible for your creativity and productivity. Own that.

Awi