Maebius

[quote name='Master' timestamp='1300297412' post='80753'] Actually the title of the thread is WTB which stands for Willing to BUY ! [/quote] buy, bind... same letter. pesky Acronyms! I'll remember that now though. I read it initially as 'Want To Bind' ie: "looking to get some", since it describes in hte tutorial "binding the creatures" to ourselves. Good to know!

[quote name='TTLexceeded' timestamp='1300291470' post='80748'] Of course i am cheap. Of course its like begging for coins. But its also a funny way to do it. You all got so serious about it. Its like everything has to be serious. By the way its actually a copy of what a person did for real. he started with one dollar and after a year ended up having a house and a car. (or something like this as a result cant remember correctly.) Sorry for trying to propose something i thought is funny and might also earn me some coins. Sorry for thinking that you might actually enjoy it. [/quote] One Red Paperclip. --> A new House. Yes, it actually happened. http://oneredpaperclip.blogspot.com/ I agree somewhat with TTL here, while I did not take his deal, it is refreshing to see a bit of harmless fun interjected into the grind some people do all day in the Park. A fool only mirrors our own minds after all. WHY did we find his efforts offensive?

[quote name='xrieg' timestamp='1300290989' post='80746'] Hello :-) All depends on price - reference atm is Tipus two UPs of similar age and no tokens 1sc each [/quote] you did not ask to buy them, you mentioned merely that you were "looking for a few" priests. PM sent, with details of one you may look at freely.

The oldest I have is: Experience 47812 Age 69 No tokens yet sadly, still working on my avatar unlock with credits... interested?

[quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1300133623' post='80643'] I fail to see how anyone can consider a flood that encompasses half a land as a starting snowball? I gave a very clear comparison: two dozen people were needed to manage to heal one (very special) tree. Sure it started with one person and soon there were two and then three and so on and not until a whole lot of effort was spent, did they manage to accomplish anything. On the other hand we have three people, of whom two were not actually contributing, who just happen to create a nationwide catastrophe. It starts with only them and it ends with only them. Even if it was supposed to be a prelude, a prelude too has a start and an end. [/quote] yet the king of hte land was in agreement, and had enough effort been put into it, would the Land itself have been changed as the tree was? With diligence and a growing effort of belief and work... I think the two examples are not as dissimilar as you imply. Back to the original topic: This related to the sludge, and I though the effort was valid, if allowed to continue and had it gained support. Some veterans seem to think otherwise. Why the two opinions? Which is right? Is one wrong? that's what Rumi's asking I think.

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1300131260' post='80640'] How many ways can you say no? Instead of having a rant about how uneducated slobs use leet speak, i will merely say that that form of diction does not fit in with magicduel. [/quote] I'm going to have to agree with Chewett here. While 1337 speak is funny, it seems a bit more anachronistic than temporarily shifting chat to other languages. Interesting idea, of course, but I personally dislike that (and txt spk 4 u lol) in the realm.

[quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1300130733' post='80638'] And quite a lot of them would not, for various reasons. [/quote] I fall into the would not" camp myself, thus, my only flight of fancy so far is mitigating the mechanics of PMs and the forum through placing notes in my fancy tophat, and the magic scroll we all pick up that states in-game how it changes based on our actions. Butthose are simply shorthands to an actual mechanic. Maebius is as Maebius is, for now. [quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1300130733' post='80638']The ones I saw failing were people trying to lift a whole mountain by themselves. It took two dozen people several hours to heal a tree. By comparison, three people have claimed to create a flood that covers half a land in a few minutes? That is how it is literally written in the account on the forum and I guess the only reason it wasn't immediately shot down is that it was supported by someone who holds some power. But since many people need clear game mechanics, I'll name one: 'roleplay reality requirement'. [/quote] Yet here I would argue that a sludge was an attempt to 'Move Mountains'. They started a snowball, but it sadly did not pack further snow to create the Real avalanche that would effect the realm in the same public manner as that tree you mention. I'm sure even healing a tree started with one or two people's efforts. This does not invalidate their efforts, nor be-little the fact a "big name" started the sludge discussions. It is up to the rest of us to pick up their threads and continue weaving them. I myself am just as guilty in not supporting this particular 'quest/storyline'. As I said before, there seems to be a line in the sand between "proper" MD stories and "fluff" in popular opinion, but I think the sand is a shifting dune, and am, myself, trying to see the line as clearly as possible here. The only way we know for sure if something will work is to try it. Shared reality and public opinion will filter the good stories into "reality" anyway, won't it?

[quote name='Tarquinus' timestamp='1300058920' post='80613'] Remember that MD is partially (or all) allegory. Sometimes we would do well to consider what value roleplay has in an allegorical space, or what is its nature. So: though Bootes was able to record slight movements of MD's sun and the movement Kyphis refers to is a dramatic movement, I submit to you that the question to be asked is perhaps not "does MD's sun move" but rather "what meaning does the sun's movement have?" [/quote] That hits the nail of my concern 'presactly' on my head. the allegorical nature of the Realm itself. However, seeing this game as allegory is a bit difficult at the start, being so conditioned by many other online games, to look for reason and "clues" within the game structure, and that the first puzzles presented to us beyond story choices are "fight critters and solve a puzzle in Berserker's Way". Interesting the depth and layers this place has the more you dig. Similarly, I will put forth the question is less "How does the sun move?" as "Why does it move". Same leap of paradigm.

edit for typos only) Very interesting discussion here. If I may toss out my thoughts as a VERY new player, who is still in the process of finding and completing a few random quests myself... I will agree there is a strange and very uncertain grey line that bothered me recently, in trying to define WHERE the game of MD stops and the creative flights of fancy start. To use the example of characters, I see the story mode and picture 'myself' as a human similar to the guy behind the keyboard here... Add to that a few vague OLD comments from MUR about how MD was developed less as a "purely sandbox role-playing game" and more as a reflection of Life in a fantasy world of his design. Then again, I have been directly welcomed to create and grow the "character" of maebius in any way I see fit since magick happens here. If I wanted to re-write my papers to be a dragon with angel wings and able to breathe glitter-breath, that apparently would be accepted by quite a few folks, veterans and newbies alike. Yet, in my mind, the two "realities" are at odds, which causes Rumi's initial concern. On one hand Pure Fluff-Roleplay (not to describe it insultingly) allows so much open-endedness that it can not by definition be limited my game mechanics. One the other hand, sticking to pure game mechanics as I see then so far (am still new, just hit MP4 a day or three ago) the only think I feel allowed to do is click on things to enter pass-codes, and fight with my creatures against others, while changing the "background" of the scene using little arrows. In order to bridge the gap between the pure PURE mechanics of clicking things in my browser, and seeing the world of MD as a realistic environment, you need to mix in the Adventure Log, and old Forum Stories and stuff along with the StoryMode descriptions and the papers of individual characters playing along with me. Unfortunately, this means using those Old stories of Lore as a foundation, and a very strong feeling that simply saying "Maebius builds a fence around Bob to protect him" would be dismissed as fluffy RP in the best case, and "Don't mess with BOB, you noob!" in the worst case, since Bob the tree is an established lore/game feature. It's a very, very fine line that seems to be drawn differently by different people. I agree with Awiiya's comments in that such "mandated Authority Reality" on Mur's part is not necessary either, since to do so would automatically limit the creativity, as well as change what I am slowly sensing as an underlying Reality of MD itself, which I can't describe any way except "a social experiment to see how we act and reflect on those actions beyond MD". (this of course trivializes the game MUCH more than I intend with those words, as they convey the idea too simply) I would personally lean more towards the former suggestion of allowing greater creativity, similar to Burns's encouragement of greater creative ideas, yet also understand that in order to be "Appropriate to MD" as a newer player sees the world, all we have to go on is the Old Lore. Pure Roleplay is jsut chaos and against the apparent designs of a structured world. As time goes on, I am realizing that there is danger in both ideas though, as if MD starts to lean towards a purely Roleplayed environment, that is just as limiting as enforcing a particular adherence to certain rules. I am wondering if the "Game Mechanics" of MD are just being totally misinterpreted by a lot of people, myself included, and actually include the Roleplay, in some limited and veiled manner.

[quote name='Grido' timestamp='1299852360' post='80518'] To clarify, in the case of the first trade, you gave the trader 1SC, and they gave you 2SC, or the other way round? [/quote] It was the insane victim giving TTL two coins, and he gave one in return. (essentially, jsut taking a single coin from the trade partner for free) I almost took the deal. Edit: All I said, was said without the smallest shred of anger or insult. I like the idea and if it works for you, that's kinda awesome. I was just unwilling to participate, myself.

(edit to add quote-formatting for the 404 error, for clarity.) hmm, interesting. I jsut did my daily voting, and in light of this, made sure to wait quite a while in between votes, and the browser showed no sign of "laoding" animations, and the entire list was visible to me. I got the following 404 page when trying to go to "Browser MMorpg.com" link, just now. Current server time is: 06:01 (11pm eastern timezome) [quote] 404 Not Found The server can not find the requested page: browsermmorpg.com/vote.php?id=217 (port 80) [/quote] I wonder if it is a case of the voting sites being bombarded that particular nano-second, similar to a Denial Of Service attack, but not nearly as malicious. Network lag as it were?

I can confirm I got the same thing earlier this morning and will try to get the actual site (such as BBsite, or MMoprg Top 200, or TopVoteGames, etc) tomorrow. I didn't think much of it because a few of the referral links are filtered at my work so I've made a list of which ones usually work and just click those most times.

[quote name='aaront222' timestamp='1299619113' post='80398'] i like the idea of months but here's a problem, the game doesn't have months [/quote] The game doesn't (currently) have night either, which might explain why there are no months. But who is to say that if the weather changes every 30 days or so, the new cosmology would define a month as a season of weather?

[quote name='Shadowseeker' timestamp='1299606016' post='80386'] Voting should only add to VE and VP. As for powerups, which did you use? I'm not sure what you mean though, do you mean after voting there is no change to VP/VE? [/quote] also, make note if you need +MindPower for the creature in question. That's new-ish, and if you notice you have plenty of Vp and age, and such, you may still need Mindpower now, depending on the creature and what level it is going to become. I totally overlooked that the other day when trying to upgrade an elemental, and wondering why it suddenly did not let me.

Hippo, Birdy, 2 ewes, Hippo, Birdy, 2 ewes, Hippo, Birdy, Deer, MYA ANGEL CELESTIA REGINA GLORIANA. (*ahem, sorry) Hippo, Birdy, TWOOOO EWWWWWES! A lovely natal wish, from my silly crits.

I support this idea, or at least an option to toggle it for those who prefer the tokens to display. At first, it was interesting ot figure out "Hey, what ARE those strange things on the creatures?!" but in highly tokenized fights, I get confused by the myriad colours and overlays. They are pretty, of course, but if interested in the details of the combat log, I don't even look at them anymore, and just look through the text log of the battles anyway. If it lessens server load or Flash memory usage, that's another bonus. Winning! Still, I'd prefer the option to turn it on/off, for those who like the current pretty colours too.

[quote name='Windy' timestamp='1299461340' post='80301'] I too wanted to know about 81 ap to get to the East. Numerology, aside. I have taken a different approach that is very obvious. It keeps those not worthy out. Most would turn back after suffering the huge ap loss. Those who are persistent and are patient as Saints....or not...are the ones truly worthy to cross her threshhold. [/quote] I was actually thinknig along these same lines, with a bit of pondering in relation to having 9 AP leftover (at MP3) after each step. Since personally, I rather enjoy Nines as a thrice three, and all the odd numerological connotations that three has. While it seems Mur enjoys 4-fold symmetry from what I've read of his musings, I lean more towards the three-balances in life, so having odd-digits to me is much more balanced than two digits, in my philosophical cosmology. 81 fit nicely into that framework as nine nines, and meshed well with having 90 AP to start with in this game. More specific details I can't quite put into words without filling the page with text, so I'll stop here.

I second, third, and fifth the prior replies above me. Condolences for you and your family. ((hugs))

And the formation of this WAA group, whether in jest or is sincerity, is EXACTLY what made me come to love the idea behind MagicDuel to begin with. Player-generated content. Working within the rules to find and fill a niche. Well done, Shem. Well done indeed. If it becomes official and useful, I would be happy to add my name to the list, and thus meet more readily those who would seek to utilize such a service.

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1299255468' post='79997'] Its a great change and means that you will move up and not continually train, If you want to fight, you SHOULD be at mp5. Period. [/quote] IU was waiting until the firestorm died down a bit, but Chewett said pretty much what my thoughts were on the matter when I read this announcement. Yes, there will be overpowered MP3s, possibly, but those who want similar power will advance, as it should be. Fighting isn't all there is to MagicDuel either. It's important but not the sole reason for playing, is it??

[quote name='Kyphis the Bard' timestamp='1299149649' post='79877'] Just remember that this game is very much about community interaction for most people, rather than just straight combat, and you will not only enjoy yourself but make lifelong friendship. [/quote] Agreed! joiin usssss.....