Valldore Nal

[quote name='lashtal' timestamp='1346963274' post='121499'] What I had in mind was slightly different, but I can see your points (I'm referring to Eon and Valldore). I think that being skilled in gathering resources means also being able to do it in the most efficient way, allowing the needed time for them to regenerate. Depleting a scene means decreasing the scene's potential to (re)generate said resource. I'm not saying it's immoral to deplete resources and my post wasn't "against" those who enjoy depleting. I'm saying it's un-efficient from the resource's point of view. Ok, bones is probably unhappy as an example, not all of you has free access to graves and morgues... Let's take basil. Being skilled in gathering basil, imo means also knowing how much you can get of it without damaging the plant itself. It's the plant's point of view I am considering, That's why I was thinking of a penalty in said skill. To me, from the resource's point of view, depleting means being rough, not skilled. [/quote] The truth is that this wasn't the way i saw the idea. Lets continue with the basil example then. Skill gathering of basil means you know how much you can take without damaging the plan. If for months, i train myself in becoming skillful on gathering basil , but one day i'm in a bad mood and decide i want to deplete the plan (or even i stay in bad mood a week, and have several plants to take my wrath on them) or lets say i want to take as much as possible because i don't want to grow basil anymore . Does that mean that the next time i am going to grow basil, i will have no idea how to gather it without hurting the plant ? (if i want to do it that way) I don't think that i would have forgotten how to do it just because i would have destroyed some plants. If the suggestion was that when someone depletes, he doesn't get a skill increase because he doesn't do it the proper way (he is being rough) , yes, totally agree with that. Also, give a really high percentage that this last gather won't give any resource (because i'm being rough and i'm putting the plant in danger), yes again. Give it a 50% or even more that won't give any resource. But being rough doesn't make me forget how the proper way is, since i've spend so much time training my self in that way. [quote name='VertuHonagan' timestamp='1346965797' post='121501'] I completely agree with Lashtal. I would think some sort of stat damage should be dealt for depleting resources. If you deplete resources completely it shows that you lack the skill to realize how efficiently you are working that item. Take real life gardening for example. Lets say your growing lettuce. Knowing that keeping a certain amount of those lettuce leaves still alive in that garden will produce more plants, you would logicaly keep that amount there to increase the productivity of that plant. If you just cut off every single lettuce leaf and wait for the next batch to regrow, then your not tending to the plant properly, and you have a chance of destroying that plant. So I would also suggest not just a stat damage for depletion, but possibly lowering the regeneration rate for that resource as well. Making it take twice as long for the resource to regenerate. There should also be higher risk for depleting that resource multiple times. Lowering the regeneration rate of the resources even more for the constant miss-handling of the resource. [/quote] Lets keep lettuce as the example then. I have a field where i grow lettuces, but i also have an antagonist for the local market that does the same thing. I grow mine with care and the proper way (have trained on doing so and i have learned the proper way in time). But one day i decide to go to my antagonists field and gather all his (don't ask me why he left them unguarded, that's another story). I go in there and gather every single leaf, being rough cause i am on a hurry and without caring for the plants and if i destroy them. The next day that i will go to my field again, i would have forgotten how the proper way is ? Just because i destroyed my antagonist field , i need to learn how to do it again ? Same idea for stat damaging someone who lowers the regeneration . Don't increase his stat, he is being rough and hasty. Give a high chance of not gathering a resource after all. P.S. I don't say either that depletion is good or bad, it's not the subject of the discussion. I don't even look at whether the punishment is fair, too weak or too severe for the depletor. Just looking for something to be a realistic punishment , that's all.

[quote name='lashtal' timestamp='1346955432' post='121492'] How about incorporating a sort of stat damage for who deplete resources? An example: Every time I collect bones, my excavation stat is incremented by 0.05. Every time I deplete bones, my excavation stat is lowered by, let's say, 1. Or it could be a percentage of my current stat value. In the end, it would be as if I gathered said resource irresponsibly. lashtal [/quote] The only irresponsibility would be that there won't be any bones available for a while. I honestly don't see how this will affect your ability to gather them in the first place (since, for example even if you gathered the last one, you did carefully and for a purpose : show it, sell it, make something from it. So in the end you pay the same attention on gathering the bones, even if it is the last one) . I agree with Eon, damage on given stat doesn't seem realistic either . Edit : An idea that came to my mind. Most of the gathering tools are shared community items. Something that would make more sense would be that if someone depletes a given resource, he won't be able to get an item for some time. For example, herb baskets are taken from Loreroot. It's logical, if someone depletes herbs that Loreroot wouldn't allow him to use the tools next time. (not talking for ever, prob 1 reset is too low. But maybe a formula could be made, taking in consideration how much time the given resource would need to regenerate full, and "ban" that player for that amount of time). P.S. I have no idea if this is even possible or how easy/hard this could be to code, just throwing ideas

Trying to sabotage something should have a risk, agree on that. But the idea of losing a percentage of that resource from the inventory doesn't fit well in my mind. Lets say i'm in a field full of herbs and gather every last one of them. How would that affect the herbs i gathered ? A risk that is more realistic would be better, than just affect the simple numbers of the resource (unless there is something i'm missing here which would make the loss of resources a realistic one) I don't have any idea atm unfortunately ....... At least not one that won't have a need for ppl to intervene . But in the end, shouldn't it be the lands inhabitants to secure their resources in a way ? P.S. The easiest way would be to punish the depletors in a way that they would think twice before they attempt something like that, but i believe the certain "atmosphere" should be kept as well. (I repeat if i'm missing something that would make this idea more realistic I would like to hear it )

During the mid summer festival, Amber had plenty of Time at her disposal and decided that some random non important questions would amuse her a bit Well, i have no idea if they did, but they amused me. So i decided to post them. A bit late in regards to when i received them, but i guess those Time problems are adhesive .......... Anyway here they are , enjoy ! If I borrow Soothing Sand's hourglass for you to check, would that do anything? [spoiler]If you manage to persuade Soothing Sands to give you his hourglass, it won't do anything at all. When you will say that it does nothing, i will have to ask you to give it to me for some tests, or your curse will never go. You won't have any choice than to give it to me, and then i will just claim that i broke and Soothing Sands will never get it back [/spoiler] Why is the sky blue? [spoiler] How do you know it is blue, can you really see it ? [/spoiler] Can I really fly if I jump and forget to fall? [spoiler] You can think that you are flying, for sure. But i don't think gravity will forget to pull you down ....... [/spoiler] If things are timeless does this mean my heat doesn't fade =P [spoiler] It's a matter of perception really. You are timeless in regards to others, but your heat is personal so it fades from your point of view, but you have none from others. [/spoiler] Is "now" soon? [spoiler] Now is already too late .....[/spoiler] Does time seem to move? [spoiler] Not really ..... it flows [/spoiler] Does it seem hot about? [spoiler] With 42 celsius outside , what do you think ? [/spoiler] Why do you think lashtal was carrying around his skeleton? [spoiler] What makes you think that lashtal was carrying his bones ? [/spoiler] Can purple and gold be ok together? [spoiler] Ofc they can, they seem perfectly fine to me [/spoiler] How long do you think it will before everyone is dead at some point? [spoiler] I don't know if someone has a grudge with Everyone, so i am not sure when he will be [/spoiler] Does it seem like there's more independent participation than team participation? [spoiler] If you take each team differently then yes, it seems that independents are more. [/spoiler] What is the answer to the ultimate question of Life! The universe! And Everything!! [spoiler] The answer is Valldore ofc [/spoiler] Do cats really have staff where dogs have owners? [spoiler] I don't really get the concept of this question [/spoiler] How long do you think the jump buttons will be up? [spoiler] It's down already, so i won't answer that one [/spoiler] Will newbies ever learn? [spoiler] And how would i know, being one myself ? [/spoiler] Hopefully this takes you a while so you're not completely bored out of your zombie brains =] [spoiler] Just a note, FS with lashtal stated that i was brainless (and i may still be ) so there was no way to eat my brains [/spoiler] Anyone willing , feel free to post your answers as well, and any other question you might have (please use spoiler for your answers so someone has a chance to answer first before seeing other people's if they wish to) P.S Here is a link to the quest page, in case someone is interested what those Time-gibberish are [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12678-summer-fest-take-your-time-quest-disclosure-and-results/"]http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12678-summer-fest-take-your-time-quest-disclosure-and-results/[/url]

Is it possible to make 2 tutorials ? One that will run when someone starts the game (mp3) and the second tutorial for when he/she passes to mp4 (maybe introducing tokens there? ) I agree that tokens shouldn't be the included in the first interaction experience someone has to the realm, give some time to "absorb" the first concepts. (especially if the plan is to use a variety of creatures for the introductory combats, the new player will have quite a few things to read and learn about )

Happy Birthday ! I wish you best of luck !

It means no LHO is currently online. Wait a bit and it will come back when someone comes

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[b][font=arial,helvetica,sans-serif][size=5]TEAM 3[/size][/font][/b] Team 3 had one quest , unfortunately independents could not participate in the actual quest. We allowed them though to help the Cursed , in anyway the could (it was in the other 2 team's representative's hands , AmberRune and Maebius, to look for that help) and we hope you at least enjoy that way of participation. So , only scores for the 2 teams will take place. Both teams managed to finish our quest, so they get 100%. Their target was to reach 15 points or more and they both managed to accomplish that . (more details on quest and results can be found at [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/12678-summer-fest-take-your-time-quest-disclosure-and-results/"]http://magicduel.inv...re-and-results/[/url]) We hope you enjoyed the quest, we did for sure [color=#ff0000]EDIT (BFH): CLARIFICATION[/color] [color=#ff0000]Team 1: 5[/color] [color=#ff0000]Team 2: 5[/color] [color=#ff0000]Teams DIV by 1[/color] [color=#ff0000]Bonus: +5[/color]

Wish it was somewhere near , lets say at GoE ?

Happy Birthday

If the concept of the heat vote is not only how hard the community agrees with the voting theme, but also the dedication to keep it high, there is actually a point for the heat to be reduced in time. And also i guess a function for the clickie would be able to be used in items as well, so it could be abused from ppl with scripting item ability as well (I haven't even given a look to the md script so if there is a way to make a function just to work for clikies and not for items, ignore my second paragraph )

Actually you are kind of wrong here Seig. Since Grido already offered to revive someone else with a price, anyone can easily assume that he would be willing to do the same. So they prob had already told him that, before you even ask him. Also , calculating could easily means that he just balance the pros and cons of whatever decision he makes, so nothing implies that the threat he got was at the time you asked. Now , you can always think that he might be misleading you in order to get more coins (i don't want to be offending or anything Grido, don't really know you, but it can always be a possibility). As far as it concerns Gridos action, you can't blame him for anything. He has a service to offer, names the price and either you take it or not. Based on whatever "excuses" he might be telling to justify the price, you can't accuse anyone of anything. Now, if he has mentioned names (which i doubt) that could be a different story. Without names, i personally see no story at all here

So you want to change the BHC to limitless-participations HC ? Maybe another version of HC should be proposed in the development focus instead of messing with BHC. Also Fyrd, i think Eons point is to avoid making to low, since then ppl will be able to pay others fee in order to get help, as mentioned in the previous post.

Liberty, tried google it ? (had no idea either ) And i think it was funny

Topic can be closed, thank you

Thanks but i have found the heated creature i was looking for . I am still looking for Angien though (and still giving priority on a fresh one )

I know they are Fang. The only reason i am giving priority on a young egg is that i believe rasing it my self will make me appreciate it's existence and valued more (which is the attitude i am trying to keep for at least every first of any kind of creature i am able to do so). For the moment at least, i don't have any better reason, so if it's not enough , so be it. Thanks for the tip.

I am looking to buy Creature or Creatures with heat sum of 4M. Please pm me if you have available for sale. I will give priority to people that can sell me the amount i am looking for in total. Also as mentioned in the title, depending on the price i am willing to buy one or more angiens (I would prefer at least 1 new if it is possible, i know some ppl have access to the shrine , have no idea if they are allowed to recruit, if not pls ignore the comment, or inform me to erase it)

Indeed this was a fun quest And being my first interactive and real-time one , i really enjoyed it. Thanks Fyrd and grats to the winner !

I don't think that her comment (although misleading) was about the location of the fountain.

So it seems it wasn't consuming the ingredients just like when MoC was making it right ? (I made the assumption from the ss, if i am mistaken pls correct me) Don't know if this is considered a bug or not though.