Ivorak

It is intended to be used to put you back in an alliance? Even though you've been kicked out?

[quote name='Burns' timestamp='1327093493' post='101487']
I've had wodin's guard in my ally, who is unkickable because it's an illusion, but he can't do anything inside, either.
It would be extremely annoying if you were illusioned for some days to play on a mission, as illusions are set, and then find yourself stripped from your real alliance while being unable to do something about it, which is obviously a very special problem for leaders.

If an ally member goes disguised for a while, they're still members, but can't do anything inside during the time disguised. It would be highly unfair if a person could be kicked from their real ally while they are stuck in the illusion ally, even more so if the person kicked is the leader of an ally.
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Is there a countdown before illusions can be dropped? And is it very long? Otherwise, while it may require the illusion user to abort a mission, there is something the alliance leader can do about it. Not everything can be done without sacrifice.

And regardless of the above, I think an alliance, by definition, is based on trust. Sure, trust can be betrayed, but that's a risk inherent to most everything. And if you build up an alliance on anything else, then that "alliance" has no purpose besides perhaps the small boons that come from the game features. In such cases the alliance exists only mechanically and therefore shouldn't exist at all.

[quote name='Burns' timestamp='1327093493' post='101487']
I've had wodin's guard in my ally, who is unkickable because it's an illusion, but he can't do anything inside, either.
It would be extremely annoying if you were illusioned for some days to play on a mission, as illusions are set, and then find yourself stripped from your real alliance while being unable to do something about it, which is obviously a very special problem for leaders.

If an ally member goes disguised for a while, they're still members, but can't do anything inside during the time disguised. It would be highly unfair if a person could be kicked from their real ally while they are stuck in the illusion ally, even more so if the person kicked is the leader of an ally.
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Is there a countdown before illusions can be dropped? And is it very long? Otherwise, while it may require the illusion user to abort a mission, there is something the alliance leader can do about it. Not everything can be done without sacrifice.

And regardless of the above, I think an alliance, by definition, is based on trust. Sure, trust can be betrayed, but that's a risk inherent to most everything. And if you build up an alliance on anything else, then that "alliance" has no purpose besides perhaps the small boons that come from the game features. In such cases the alliance exists only mechanically and therefore shouldn't exist at all.

[quote]I've had wodin's guard in my ally, who is unkickable because it's an illusion, but he can't do anything inside, either.[/quote]

[color=#808080][i]really? Soldier of Loreroot is kickable. Tested that myself.[/i][/color]

[quote]If I do everything in my power, and still lose, fine. But if i lose without having a chance to fight, that's not fine. [/quote]

[color=#808080][i]ok, but look at it from the other side. If I do everything to take over an alliance but you can't win anyway coz of an illusion?[/i][/color]
[color=#808080][i]also doesn't seem fine...[/i][/color]

There seems to be something tricky about mixing Illusions with kicking someone from the alliance.

Someone is in an iIllusion, and get's kicked.
When the illusion is reset, the settings of the player are put back to the settings before the illusion (in this case, also before the kick)
This means, that said player is returned into the alliance, even when recieved a kick.

I discussed this with Mur, and he told me this should be discussed with more people.


Mur believes the 'bug' here, is not being able to kick a person when in an illusion, otherwise the change is futile.

[b]Should it be possible? Should it be fixed? How would it be fixed?[/b]



My personal opinion, is that illusion reset should not be able to interfere with alliance status.
Not being able to kick someone in an illusion, I think, makes it much too overpowered.
It is a cloak, yes. But you can still punch someone who wears a cloak right? (Maybe I've got to re-test that in RL, but I'm pretty sure it works )



Thank you for your time, and please leave your thoughts about it

Again, i am sorry to drag this off topic but this is one great opportunity that i don`t plan on wasting.

Some time ago there was talk of Eon using alts to benefit his main by gathering information but because of lack of proof there was nothing that could be done.
[b]Any [/b]way alts could be used to help out their main is considered punishable and here we have a public evidence that Eon is using alts to store coins.

Edit: I agree that these post are off topic and hinder bidding, but i just want to point out that since this is a very special season where special things are been sold, tracking of the money flow should be more strict then usual.

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1326991614' post='101236']

@Sharazhad, the breaking points are only in relation to the persons role. I constantly push and test CHARACTERS in key positions, in such ways that they will never notice or know it and hopefully when they less expect it. It has nothing to do with the person behind the character. [b]My role in the realm is one of a demon and i play it fully.[/b] You think i crossed the line? I only redirected certain forces to certain purposes, things IN REALM against things IN REALM.
Why was it not "public"? First of all you have no idea what it is you are talking about that it was. Secondly it was not public because if the involved person would pass the test, the only possible reward for that person would be its own success. Thirdly, if you know you are tested you would not behave as you are and the 'test; would be influenced. Come on people, this is so obvious.

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[color=#008000][i]OMFG. If I ever had a reason to leave a game this is it. Tell me Mur, do you have a degree in Psychiatry? Psychology even? Where do you even get off "testing" people? What is your basis for this? What do you hope to achieve? Do really you see yourself as a scientist and we are your labrats? [/i][/color]
[color=#008000][i]You say that your "tests" have nothing to do with the person behind the character. I say you are mistaken. On the start up page you appeal the player [b]to take a part of their own character [/b]and give it a name. Who are you testing then if not the player themselves?! [/i][/color]

[color=#008000][i]If you are going to be performing experiments on people, they should be able to decide for themselves whether or not they want to be part of this twisted scenario. I hope you realise that what you are doing (finding breaking points on your unknowing subjects or whatever other crazy experiments the MD populous is undergoing) is unethical and can be considered a violation of human rights[/i][/color].

[quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1326990392' post='101227']
How about you stop assuming things, Sharazhad. You don't know what happened. Stop making conclusions until you hear both sides of the story.
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[i][color=#008000] Seigheart, you have to understand when a public announcement is made people will react differently and from a simple layperson's point of view, this stinks of mindplaying, bullying, harrassement. Worst of all rewarded for. I am quite happy to hear the otherside of the story.... answers to Yrth's questions that he posted above.[/color][/i]

What he could mean is that Eon, dst, and Granos are so annoying and purposely do things like this for fun, and some king said **** it, and gave up.

aye agreed with seig. It is not authority of "authority" you should be looking for, but the mass. Rise to the movement. Posting and keeping records of depletion is good. It must however be used to get the masses on your side, not a 'judge' as it were. I think people keep missing my point about this. A small force of movement can roll into a typhoon in MD if you move int he right direction. The conglomerate is capable of overtaking anyone or thing. No king is every mightier then the mass that it controls

I did not see this anywhere and yes i know i am a little behind in making a topic
work stuff and firewalls blocking me most of the time.

[color=#CCCCCC]Ann. 2172 - [2012-01-17 14:27:12 - Stage 11][/color]
A "kingslayer" medal was awarded retroactively to the following players for classified missions of obvious nature . These actions include recent but also ancient events where pressure was put on certain leading characters to test their strength or find their breaking point:[b] *dst*, Granos, Eon [/b]

In regards to the above anno i would like to request details of this so called mission?
Whom they took down and proof of this.

I for one can say none of the mentioned players made me resign it was the council that did that.
But I also think if you are going to announce this public then you should provide log's and proof of the intent
otherwise it look to be a load of BULL to reward players for nothing.

This is ofc myown opinion on this matter and i would just like clarification on the statment of the Kingslayer medal

Bah what are you still doing with xp windows 7 upgrade stat. Also you can download similar things online unless you guys don't have virus protection as well in that case jeez what sort of wooden box would you be running

Just saying that there are tons of options you can take instead of waiting for a global mute button, it's a good idea but it isn't implemented yet so just making suggestions while you wait and just incase it never does get put in effect.

[quote name='Tarquinus' timestamp='1326441321' post='100613']
To the Children of the Eclipse:

This ought to go without saying, but just to be clear: I will not be approaching Mur or the Council about this matter, and I will not be attempting to prosecute Pip in the MD Court or any other body. I have no reason to think Pip used a bug or exploit to get into the CoE, but if he did, I leave such matters in the hands of those whose position it is to regulate them. Until I am given reason to think otherwise, I will assume Pip achieved this act of sabotage through honorable, game-mechanical means.
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[quote name='King Bull' timestamp='1326446447' post='100618']
You cheated Pip and should be banned according to the rules. this is what the rules say:[list]
[*]You can have multiple accounts, to try out story, to experince new ways of play etc ..., however if you are detected that you are using them just to help one of your main accounts , all of them including the main will get banned.
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its simple and your guilty.
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King Bull, it helps if you read the message by your alliance leader before being foolish.

You cheated Pip and should be banned according to the rules. this is what the rules say:[list]
[*]You can have multiple accounts, to try out story, to experince new ways of play etc ..., however if you are detected that you are using them just to help one of your main accounts , all of them including the main will get banned.
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its simple and your guilty.

So, you're going to sue Eon for harvesting herbs?

Why does it matter so much? Are herbs in such short supply? Are cups of tea so integral to your survival that you have to make such a big deal over the depletion of weeds?

Didn't think so.

[center][center][url="http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/850/magicdueldominionofmur.png/"][img]http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/9131/magicdueldominionofmur.png[/img][/url]

The Treasure Keepers are now actively accepting new applicants.

They must meet the following criteria:

1. Active Days: Below 365, but higher than 100.*
2. Active Day Percentage Above 60%*
3. Clean Record*
4. Those with Official Roles will not be accepted

The applicants must not be in the servitude of another Land. If you are, you must be relinquished by your King, or Queen, before they enter the Servitude of the Demon. Your allegiance will no longer be to your King, or Queen, but to the Demonic One.

THIS IS NOT AN OFFICIAL POSITION

Meaning you will not have any authority over anyone. Including you.

The purpose of the Treasure Keepers is to distribute the Wealth of the Demon to those he wishes to reward, or sponsor. This is not a glamorous job, but it does have its benefits. What those benefits are will become clear in time, but they are worth it in the end.

If you wish to apply, please state the following as such:

Game Name: Seigheart
Active Days: 444(87%)
Current Allegiance: Lands of the East
Tag: Information Specialist

I will approach those who apply, with either an acceptance, or rejection, letter in-game.

Good luck, and Mur’s Speed
--Seigheart

*Slight variances are acceptable.[/center][/center]

How is this Eon's fault? So you will not join any guild or alliance for fear of attacks? Or am I reading this part wrong?

[quote]when Eon whisked Dragual and Azull away to the GoE, she spoke her vows to the air and audience[/quote]

Due to lag, I did not know Darth and Azull were gone until I had the vows well completed. I assumed, wrongly, that all had been there for them. That is why I did not repeat them.

What may have appeared to be lack of emotion on my part was actual panic and messaging in 3 or 4 windows to figure out what to do about the movelock. I had considered dropping the guild long before this because of Eon's attacks to me, so doing so was not as much of a thoughtless decision as it may have appeared. I was grateful to Kiley for being willing to help in such an unconventional way.

I apologize to all for all of the confusion and thank those who came for being patient. At long last, the wedding was completed. Although we did not get to hear all the music Darth and I had planned at the reception, I am indeed a happy bride. Thanks to all who participated.

I'd like to give this image as a comparison.

The three avatars on the left, are three avatars I had currently in my avatar shop.
the wolf was drawn by me with a tablet, the lines around it were for testing, and I decided to leave them there as an example of lines.
I added the background of MD, and made the wolf transparent (that's how it will look in MD, if it were an avatar)


I personally don't think it is a lot different from the avatars that are already approved once,
so, why shoudn't a tablet be approved?


No, it can not reproduce a pencil perfectly, but how big is that of a problem?
Some avatars around don't look very pencil-ish either.

I'm not what I'd define as a graphic artist, but I've seen people do really successful tablet drawing.
For example, here's an image done by someone with a tablet that has selected a pencil-emulating brush.
[url="http://www.henningludvigsen.com/index.php/henning/tutorial_text/043_ifx_tutorial_digital_pencil_drawing"][img]http://www.henningludvigsen.com/images/uploads/tutorials/pencil_drawing_main_image.jpg[/img][/url]

[url="http://www.henningludvigsen.com/index.php/henning/tutorial_text/043_ifx_tutorial_digital_pencil_drawing"]Image grabbed from here[/url], I do not own the image, etc, etc.

About 2 weeks ago, I went a mail to the council with a question concerning avatars/item drawings drawn with a pen tablet.
I was wondering if pen tables should be used for avatars or not.
My opinion about it was, that it shouldn't be a problem, but I got a reply that said the opposite:

[quote]All submitted artwork should be made with pencil and scanned in. Pen tablets should not be used. Not only does it provide consistency with the art in game, it also provides an added surety that the artwork is indeed belonging to the person submitting, rather than found elsewhere on the internet.[/quote]

Now I must say I do not agree with what the council said.
First, I think consistency with the art in game should not be a problem with a pen tablet, as there are a lot of possibilities with it.
And also, it is as easy to trace an image with pen and paper, than it is with a pen tablet. (as I think that is their

It's just a virtual paper, and a virtual pencil, I personally don't see the big problem here.(I also made a reply, saying this, but I did not get an anser yet)

Now I'd like to ask the opinion of the community, to see what other people think about it.

Should a tablet be allowed?
Why, why not?

[size=2]Edit: Adding quotes (thanks Kyphis)[/size]

I like the idee of the creature and I also like the butterfly idee actually.
Butterflies are sometimes also seen as cariers of the souls of those who died to the afterlife. So a black toxic butterfly would in my oppinion make perfect sence in necro.
But as an alternative a spider could also be used. Few creatures are related so closely to death as the black widow.

To increase from 0, which is an initial bid, a minimum bid is at LEAST 1gc

Hedge, please read the entire thread topic post.

[quote name='Hedge Munos' timestamp='1325638349' post='99551']
Sharptear = 2sc

Hedge
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[quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1325702423' post='99598']
Hedge, please read the entire thread topic post.
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That would be an initial bid, not an increase, Seigheart, from the way I see things.