What I am worried about is what Glai said. If I loose to much honor I won't even be able to attack players anymore. I do enjoy guild play, I want to stay in a guild, but if I attack another guild player for loyalty I can still loose honor, I also loose honor from battles with regular players who may attack me and win....at a certain point don't you loose the option to battle with - honor?, or may only attack those who give positive?