Orlando Gardiner

That's why people always have to be certain they can give what they offer. you owe him more than just a few tokens Fenrir, I am sorry but he missed a reindrach, he lost a lot of age and has been left with nothing..

if you truly are sorry for what you've done, and wish to apologies, contact him and work out the problem, but I am afraid that it will cost you dearly, it's now up to you to choose...

I made a deal with Fenrir to trade my double aged gg drachorn for $40 credits in my account. I told him to give me the $$ first but he said no he has invested $75 in the game now and it will be stupid of him to scam me. So i trusted him and he said I give the drachorn and he will give me the credits. But AFTER giving him the gg drachorn only he states that he needs mur to transfer his credits to me... which he ACCIDENTALLY forgot to tell me before hand.

but i trusted him and wait and waited and waited... christmas time passed and i wasn't able to buy the redrachorn also, since he didn't pay in time. So he promised me saying he will get me the credits now and he checked with paypal the $$ from his bank has gone and he will give his reindrachorn to me since i missed mine for he didn't pay in time. Its been 3 weeks and still no ctc or $$ on my account. Now he is telling me to take the gg drachorn back and he doesn't need it (it was double aged). So please don't give him the mod position back and please from now on don't trade with him even, if he gives the goods first. For if you trade with him that means he has won scamming me.

PS: now he saying he has financial problems and can't keep up the deal.. (before he said that paypal said they sent the $$) this shows he has been lieing from the start. He is also slowly trying to change the subject of escaping without giving his reindrachorn. So please don't ever trade with him.

EDIT: he gave me a ctc now saying after this trade over.. so i thought thats the reindrachorn and took it to see its my gg drachorn with most of its age gone.. wait a loser this fenrir is. Please don't trade with him.

[quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='14 January 2010 - 01:49 AM' timestamp='1263413993' post='52683']
Would you like the email from Paypal saying they could not accept the transfer?

Death, you are speaking with emotions, not common sense. I was not lying, I was trying to get you the money, but you would not wait. So you made this topic.
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ohh really, then why were you just now before i was making this topic i warned you, and you were trying your best to change the subject by asking how i got the drachorn and all.

and you just before said SERVERAL tokens but there is only ONE.

and this is from you in pms
[quote]So, I found out what the issue was. My bank didn't process the paypal withdrawal because of "unusual activity." (I had recently become a gold subscriber, and a couple hours later I made another payment(for you) and the bank canceled it.
I have already sent the 45$ to your account again. You should get it by Monday/Tuesday.
If you don't get it by then, you can have my Reindrach and the money. [/quote]

i asked you for the reindrachorn like how many times.. 3 or 4.. still you didn't give it to me.. now when we look at above quote doesn't it show you were lieing the whole time ?

That's why people always have to be certain they can give what they offer. you owe him more than just a few tokens Fenrir, I am sorry but he missed a reindrach, he lost a lot of age and has been left with nothing..

if you truly are sorry for what you've done, and wish to apologies, contact him and work out the problem, but I am afraid that it will cost you dearly, it's now up to you to choose...

oke, without reading all of this there are a few things I wish to say:

WHY FOR MY MOTHERS SAKE are all fenrir's post being voted negative? I mean, he might indeed be wrong, and he might indeed be seeing it all wrong. but that doesen't make it a bad reply, that is not the reason it is there for, it's for people who spamm, say bad things, harrass or so.., not just because you like someone less, and start voting negative on him. Same problem goes for me, a few people don't like me and they start voting negative.

and offcourse, I am not certain, but it very much looks like this is done by a few(3 at most or so) people who dislike him most.., and I am not pointing any fingers.

as for the reply that chewett made, these are indeed good points, power abuse is one of the most treacherous things that can be done and is not permitted, but on the other side: have you ever been warned about this? have they told you you where wrong on it and gave you advice on how to do what, and what not?

for me I most certainly believe that people who work together, as the moderators shoulden't let their fellow mod's down, but on this subject it looks like fenrir has been dropped, and for which reason I don't know. But I know chewett, and I guess it has been a good reason, with good prove. I just wish this to be publiced to now, since everyone is starting to discuss this now.

or is it possible that the moderator's, and fenrir open up a own location, start discussing until everything is clear for everyone, pur rational, no offending and no pointing fingers. as far as i am concered no one is wrong, just lacks the knowledge and the insight. it would do much more good than discuss it here, because all happens now it that you all( not concerned for myself:P) will get a bad name, and not in as 'he's bad, more other ways..


well, I hope I diden't offend anyone, tried to reply as rational as I can be, if any objections are made to what I said, or if I lack the insight, just tell me and I will rewrite it:)

oke, without reading all of this there are a few things I wish to say:

WHY FOR MY MOTHERS SAKE are all fenrir's post being voted negative? I mean, he might indeed be wrong, and he might indeed be seeing it all wrong. but that doesen't make it a bad reply, that is not the reason it is there for, it's for people who spamm, say bad things, harrass or so.., not just because you like someone less, and start voting negative on him. Same problem goes for me, a few people don't like me and they start voting negative.

and offcourse, I am not certain, but it very much looks like this is done by a few(3 at most or so) people who dislike him most.., and I am not pointing any fingers.

as for the reply that chewett made, these are indeed good points, power abuse is one of the most treacherous things that can be done and is not permitted, but on the other side: have you ever been warned about this? have they told you you where wrong on it and gave you advice on how to do what, and what not?

for me I most certainly believe that people who work together, as the moderators shoulden't let their fellow mod's down, but on this subject it looks like fenrir has been dropped, and for which reason I don't know. But I know chewett, and I guess it has been a good reason, with good prove. I just wish this to be publiced to now, since everyone is starting to discuss this now.

or is it possible that the moderator's, and fenrir open up a own location, start discussing until everything is clear for everyone, pur rational, no offending and no pointing fingers. as far as i am concered no one is wrong, just lacks the knowledge and the insight. it would do much more good than discuss it here, because all happens now it that you all( not concerned for myself:P) will get a bad name, and not in as 'he's bad, more other ways..


well, I hope I diden't offend anyone, tried to reply as rational as I can be, if any objections are made to what I said, or if I lack the insight, just tell me and I will rewrite it:)

Need another 97 wins for my imperial aramor to evolve, but it's stuck. fought at least another 20 battles but the count doesen't increase. I am at my exp cap, but I do win all the battles. any one know what the problem can be? or should I contact Mur that it is bugged?

greetings, Orlando.

Well, to say it this plain: they where my major factor in my attack force, but since their not worth a ******** in battle anymore I need other creatures. but to lessen my amout of creatures I have to sacrefice. so I tought, let's sacrefice one of my archers..., and there is where the whol point starts!


why aren't we getting any extra bonusses for this one anymore? I mean, they where taking ages to evolve to this stage, so why not getting a little reward for it?

greetings, orlando.


The loreroot archers still have this!

oke, without reading all of this there are a few things I wish to say:

WHY FOR MY MOTHERS SAKE are all fenrir's post being voted negative? I mean, he might indeed be wrong, and he might indeed be seeing it all wrong. but that doesen't make it a bad reply, that is not the reason it is there for, it's for people who spamm, say bad things, harrass or so.., not just because you like someone less, and start voting negative on him. Same problem goes for me, a few people don't like me and they start voting negative.

and offcourse, I am not certain, but it very much looks like this is done by a few(3 at most or so) people who dislike him most.., and I am not pointing any fingers.

as for the reply that chewett made, these are indeed good points, power abuse is one of the most treacherous things that can be done and is not permitted, but on the other side: have you ever been warned about this? have they told you you where wrong on it and gave you advice on how to do what, and what not?

for me I most certainly believe that people who work together, as the moderators shoulden't let their fellow mod's down, but on this subject it looks like fenrir has been dropped, and for which reason I don't know. But I know chewett, and I guess it has been a good reason, with good prove. I just wish this to be publiced to now, since everyone is starting to discuss this now.

or is it possible that the moderator's, and fenrir open up a own location, start discussing until everything is clear for everyone, pur rational, no offending and no pointing fingers. as far as i am concered no one is wrong, just lacks the knowledge and the insight. it would do much more good than discuss it here, because all happens now it that you all( not concerned for myself:P) will get a bad name, and not in as 'he's bad, more other ways..


well, I hope I diden't offend anyone, tried to reply as rational as I can be, if any objections are made to what I said, or if I lack the insight, just tell me and I will rewrite it:)

[quote name='Firsanthalas' date='13 January 2010 - 10:41 AM' timestamp='1263379309' post='52638']
If I may be so bold I'd like to make an observation and a suggestion. In the real world, employees generally have reviews and warnings before dismissal. I understand that moderating a forum is a bit different, but if someone is not doing things the way you feel that they should, would it not be better to sit down with them and discuss where they are going wrong?
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Each one of these points we talked to him about it. on either yim, ingame or via forum pm.

For example, one such one i hadnt deleted. And this is what i sent to him.

[quote]Fenrir i dont think you should have closed the topic.

And i have unclosed it for a few reasons,
One was that in that section closed topics are finished.

Secondarily, xxxxx was not bumping the post, merely replying to a person that posted an offer and didnt pm it.

And Third, xxxxx complained and he thinks that you did this because he didnt send you a shade, and also he claimed you spammed him and called him an alt abuser, but ofc that is just gossip.

You cannot let your opinions about a person affect moderation.

If you wish to argue how it should have been closed you can reply to this and we can discuss it.
Chewett
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This pm was is related to "closing topics with reason" the second one on that point.

[quote name='Orlando Gardiner' date='13 January 2010 - 01:36 PM' timestamp='1263389811' post='52647']
but on the other side: have you ever been warned about this? have they told you you where wrong on it and gave you advice on how to do what, and what not?for me I most certainly believe that people who work together, as the moderators shoulden't let their fellow mod's down, but on this subject it looks like fenrir has been dropped, and for which reason I don't know. But I know chewett, and I guess it has been a good reason, with good prove. I just wish this to be publiced to now, since everyone is starting to discuss this now. or is it possible that the moderator's, and fenrir open up a own location, start discussing until everything is clear for everyone, pur rational, no offending and no pointing fingers. as far as i am concered no one is wrong, just lacks the knowledge and the insight. it would do much more good than discuss it here, because all happens now it that you all( not concerned for myself:P) will get a bad name, and not in as 'he's bad, more other ways..well, I hope I diden't offend anyone, tried to reply as rational as I can be, if any objections are made to what I said, or if I lack the insight, just tell me and I will rewrite it:)
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As burns said, on post 6 i have posted my reasons, and above i have posted an example of the warnings that have been give.

Please read what is being posted before posting since im not going to reiterate what i have already said.

And as i have said before, fenrir was given a chance to complain, he asked me for a few things and i have provided them. I also gave him options to complain agaist what we did, I said he could talk to any moderator about it, or talk to mur (and i offered to ask mur to talk to him if he wished), or even take me to "court" (remember the thing mur talked about ages ago) if he wanted.

All of the issues currently i see fenrir complaining about are nothing to do with dst. They are to do with me and his demotion. If you want to talk about that more. open a new topic. Because this has nothign to do with how dst is a cruel witch

okay, let's see...

It wouldn't be right to have an feature that gives you freedom to PM anyone, that's abusive, only people who sign up at the office can be PMed there (which would most probably also be easiest to code, since Rendril already mentioned he could do such a thing)

then, costs: it has to cost something for the user, not the one who gets messages through that office LOL
the people who leave their names at the office do so to make sure other people who need them, but never meet them, can send them messages, i used to do that by leaving traces in a place where nobody talks, but that didn't help much most of the time...
I think it would be a pretty interesting, and easy to code, 'cost' if you could only use the post office to leave a message for someone once every 12 hours, this avoids spamming and is enough reason to think twice before sending a message through it

and, when i talked about the messenger i was making a veteran-joke (MD-ish aequivalent to an insider-joke), of course that's codework, not an opportunity for people who have nothing to do with their lives to run around, scream 'have you seen..?' even more and even feel important when doing that LOL

about woodman: i stopped bothering when i realized that i'll never understand the riddles of Zlei and Firs xD

in general: i like your riddles, yeah, i really do, but i don't bother doing any quests of yours because it's nothing but riddles, and one of them WILL fry my brains, so it's basically pointless to work on a riddle for days, there is no hope of getting something that's not a deadly riddle again...

i simply don't have the time and brain cells to work up your quests for 30-40 hours LOL

i don't think you should lower the level of your riddles in general, there are enough other, easier quests out there, but you shouldn't be offended when nobody comes around to solve your riddles, either... until, at one day, THE ONE comes to beat your riddles to pulp!

even the looks of creatures are considered a spoiler xD

buut... i like the idea, i think it's not considered too spoilerish to have the icons public, newbies could find them with browsing through profiles, too
what i like a bit less is the losing age-part, while having no troubles with training them anew, waiting again would be a major pain in my butt with the requirements of, say, (spoiler) drachies and angiens, in fact enough pain to not immortalize them...
maybe cut back the age losing to losing 25% of their age? they can lose all the rest from my point of view...

i think that it should come with a prize so that the bragging value is higher, but not with _that much_ waiting for a second time -.-

I taunt you every now and then when you don't allow me things like flirting in the cabin or crucifying annoying newbies, but seriously, you do your inquisitor/manager thingy really good when it comes to actual actions that have to be taken, even when the way you talk to your slaves isn't the best at times =P

well, if you intend to go and spread how to use that, then Mur will have to solve it, if you manage to keep your mouth shut, like generations before you since dst first created an empty rit (if it even was dst... i only know that it was known before i was in this world xD) then we can keep on living with the issue... but i guess you are going to sell that info, too, right? XD

neg 6! We should go and mess the contest some time, that was fun back then =))

might it be that battleswon-function doesn't work yet? i tried exchanging cid inthe most basic script from cutler (post6) with various other variables and had them echoed, and battleswon refused to work... unfortunately that was the one i wanted xD

so, is it the function not being working yet or a typo in the description you made, or something else i'm not aware of? for this one time, [s]it's not about me coding it wrong[/s], uid, cid, id, experience and age work perfectly fine with my script... yeah, i'm a bit proud of that
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>.< Darn, of course it was about my coding abilities... again -.- Thanks for your help^^[/color]

since we're at it...

those are the stats of apollo, the empty fields are functions that don't work:

id: 276671
uid: 53832
cid: 33
tokens: claw1
dateborn: 1242880400
transfercount: 2
[color="#FF0000"]tradevalue: 0 ( <-- that should be something over 200 for Apollo, is that my fault again? >.<)[/color]
customname: Apollo
vitality: 5000
level: 6
experience: 605983
battleswon: 701
age: 225

okay, solved that so far... but tradevalue, even written as 'trade'.strtolower(v).'alue' always gives me a 0 as result so far... and i dearly hope that getting a 0 out of it is not my fault again :/

lolz, no, uppercase brings no result at all, i guess because the function is written in lowercase

'tradevalue' results in restricted language

'tradev'.'alue' and similar things that seperate the _val_ in some way leads to 0

'trade'.strtoupper(v).'alue' or uppercasing the T and anything else only got me no results at all... ://

Haven't you heard the tales of prison?
People die there all the time, specially when they annoy someone...

Why would redneck not go and stab you with his toothbrush while you sleep? Why shouldn't fiju stuff a dead rat down your throat and watch you suffocating?
You know, someone seems to have understood that all your actions are only happening in your mind, but that doesn't means that other people in Arkham Asylum are hallucinating when they kill someone else, it's really as easy as that...

Most people who log in down there are mp5, therefore they can easily crush you even with one hand tied on their back, and, you know, if i was imprisoned with someone like yourself, i'd crush your skull simply for the sake of silence

This is a ONE DAY-newbie who got some beatings with regen, ONE DAY!!

We had troubles on that front with that Wishing Star-jerk for some days now, and there were incidents at other times, too, but on that occassion, we DO need a solution!

[For those of you who have been used to GGG and burst-farming for ages now, 300k neg VP means that this newbie is unable to buy and upgrade creatures for a whole effing week, which is basically the end of MD for him, 'cause who waits for a week to buy the most basic crits _before_ knowing how this game works?!]

I dearly hope that something is done about this to set a precedence, and that some lasting solution can be found, for banning each one seperately AFTER they did the harm is a bit pointless... Do people not apply any common sense when they want to win HC? -.-

PS: Dear Mods, i didn't know where to put that, please move as you deem fitting...

oh, PPS: Since Warpig didn't answer anymore, and most probably never will, and i don't have too many tools here, i don't know for sure if it was Wishing Star or not, I just assume it because i heard about 5-8 complaints about that acc in the last few days

Just as a note: I could care less what mp4 do to each other, that's kinda their own problem, and same goes for aged mp3, but taking away massive ammounts of VP from a _starter_, as in less than 5 active days, is screwing them in a way that simply makes them quit for good...

It's a different case when people need to wait for age on their crits and stuff, but when they don't even HAVE crits, or need to get them upgraded to keep on playing and get a grip on the basic fighting mechanics, then, and only then, they need protection from negative VP

Turning down negative crit-xp for mp3 might be a nice idea, those alts can screw any creature that is not yet maxed beyond repair, and the players suffering from that might quit as they advance to mp4 when they don't see much of a chance to defeat anybody anymore...

But I think that you can win on mp4 with level 1 crits as well, specially with SG still kinda-alive that shouldn't be too much of an issue

What MP level are you? 5
Are you in an alliance? Yes
How long does a serious fight (a real fight/duel, not giving out bursts or GGG trainings) usually take you? 2-3 rounds when training new crits, 0-1 when traing for sacrifice
How many rounds do you usually think is a "long duel"? Ally limits it pretty much... i'd say 5 rounds make a pretty long fight, though

^ It's 2 heads, not 1.

I've been attacked a lot faster than that when I encouraged newbly mp4s to get free wins against my lone tree in the sparring grounds (then dojo). Over 100 losses only while I was online that day. I think it was about half a year ago, when the xp cap was still the old one.


Do not underestimate the power of newb swarms.

when i fight against people in my range, it's mostly kill or be killed in round 0 XD

When i take wins off considerably weaker opponents, it usually takes exactly as long as i plan it to take, usually around the middle/end of round 2, that's pretty much all the insecurity i can afford

Same as Chewie, to me it feels like very special quest rewards getting sold...

Of course it's just one morph and one darkling, it could be a lot worse, but i definitely hope that there'll be some nice quests for those, too, cause.. you know... it's one thing to buy the colored crits that are basically a normal crit with a bit added strenght, but something completely different to buy a creature that's not for sale normally :/