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  1. [quote name='Ivorak' timestamp='1291680094' post='74704']
    [list]
    [*]nonparticipation in a dispute or war
    [*]disinterest: tolerance attributable to a lack of involvement
    [*]pH value of 7
    [/list]
    Now obviously you're not referring to the last, and I doubt the first.
    [/quote]
    Actually, political neutrality means 'not a participant in war' at the very least and is the primary (but not the only) concern here. Furthermore since the legend speakers and archivists are, or at least were, supposed to collect stories that happened. Not being active in a dispute doesn't even interfere with their jobs. Remember, it is the legend Speakers, not the Legend Creators. Nothing wrong with one of them becoming a legend, neither is anything wrong with one not becoming a legend; it is not the alliance's purpose.

    In se every alliance is an opportunity to make the game more interesting. The Legend Speakers, Archivists and Newspaper are geared towards spreading the news and could be a source of inspiration or a catalyst, however the last role seems reserved to newspapers imo. They're also the only ones I expect to report quickly, with less attention to completeness or prozaic style.

    [quote name='Fyrd Argentus' timestamp='1291728070' post='74745']
    Sorry, are you reading my post or Curiose's? She and I seem to be on different planets here.... I am just sitting back in stunned amazement at her rampages. And searching for those personal communications I supposedly ignored.

    And I stand by my position that you can't write about something if you have no passion for it. That's rather different from going to war.

    The Envoy system was one hope of allowing passionate writing while maintaining over-all guild neutrality, but that's not working either, as Curiosa got herself kicked out of Necrovion.
    [/quote]
    As a writing guild, your failure to communicate internally is hilarious :P.

    I agree that having people write about things they lack interest in, is a bad strategy. However, if nobody is interested in reporting on the opponent or if there is a disproportion in talent/motivation/time then the end result is further from the idea of neutrality.

    Assuming an envoy's job is to negotiate with nations, both Curiosa and Jester should be able to ignore the past and reach an agreement on who will be reporting on Necrovion, once again assuming it is not the job of the envoy to report on every story.

  2. [quote name='Fyrd Argentus' timestamp='1291646677' post='74646']
    The adventure log is dead, the newspaper is dead, Magic Duel is in survival mode and hurting.[/quote]
    That one sentence says it all. The newspaper is dead. Your idea is good for a newspaper. Alas, the legend speakers are not the newspaper. Disconnect your tabloids from the legend speakers and half of your complaints are gone. The other half you'll need to be able to instigate a rival tabloids; a balance to ensure overall neutrality.

    From personal experience, I've had the neutrality debate often enough to say it never ends. The Legend Speakers are supposed to be strictly neutral and thus anything of this style will keep causing the debate to be actual. Creating something independent and declaring it not neutral is a lot easier in the long run.

  3. [quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1291559217' post='74507']
    If the wp reason is correct should not be judged, yet, i am only concerned if there is a reason or not.
    [/quote]
    For all the people preemptively giving reasons... it's not time for that yet.

    I can't remember having seen a single WP without reasons ever since i got the details feature. Which is good, no? And if I'm right, that also means it's useless to consider only recent WPs. In any case it is not punishment, but seizing of ill acquired goods. Although to me it seems a bit sad that a quester can get penalized for something the creator should have bothered to spend half a minute on.

  4. [quote name='Yoshi' timestamp='1291410868' post='74265']
    Kaf, your theory is wrong in that, Person B should have confronted Person A first, and then they would have received a satisfactory answer. If Person B wasn't satisfied and had a doubt about it, THEN they should post it. Also, what was the point of posting the other non-relevant Wish Points and their details?
    [/quote]
    Read the premise again...
    The idea is to give a comprehensive overview of WPs? eg. I personally consider the reasons for the WP by lib40 better than the average reason in that list.

  5. Suppose, theoretically, that person A did something wrong. If person B asks person A 'look, i see something that i think might be wrong but i am not certain about it,' do you honestly believe that A would reply 'why you're absolutely right, I cheated and you full of doubt about what I did have brought it to light'?

    Second, the 'details' feature is somewhere in the shop. Since it's been made into a topic and requested I think it's only logical that someone with access lists them here.

    Mighty Pirate Lib39 749 N/A No Details 30/11/10 21:07:38
    On behalf of Yrth, for his great work in quest creation over the past months. Good work MP.

    Yoshi Lib40 738 N/A No Details 28/11/10 01:07:59
    Carving of Handy Pockets on Pumpkin Z's shoe family quest.

    Shadowseeker yrthilian 731 Wish 20 Yes Details 09/11/10 21:59:45
    For my teaching principals quest.

    yrthilian Lib40 727 N/A Yes Details 30/10/10 19:32:59
    For a special project
    (used to created an item)

    Sephirah Caelum yrthilian 724 N/A No Details 26/10/10 17:52:08
    Supreme dedication and excellent roleplaying to discover the identity and locational source of *********

    yrthilian Nimisha 719 N/A Yes Details 17/10/10 15:03:03
    This is to create a special item for a quest currently running

    Leorius yrthilian 716 N/A No Details 09/10/10 13:17:39
    for a very good paper submitted to my teaching of principals quest part 2

    Sharazhad yrthilian 706 Wish 19 Yes Details 08/09/10 10:42:26
    for submitting the best paper to my teaching of principals quest part 1

    *Burns* yrthilian 692 N/A No Details 04/08/10 09:48:16
    Correctly gained all letters and placed them in the question(s) required before answering with the correct answer and description to back it up - sasha lilias quest

    *Clock Master* yrthilian 691 Wish 20 Yes Details 04/08/10 09:47:20
    Correctly gained all letters and placed them in the question(s) required before answering with the correct answer and description to back it up - sasha lilias quest

    Nimrodel yrthilian 672 Wish 6 Yes Details 18/07/10 13:45:11
    Winner of the travellers soul quest with an ashtonishing 211 points by sasha lilias

    Mourn yrthilian 666 Wish 2 Yes Details 26/06/10 20:40:19
    For the good response on the forum experiment. GTG topic. A player that can give constructive criticism.

    Mighty Pirate yrthilian 642 Wish 28 Yes Details 15/05/10 09:14:46
    Placing first in CCG in may

    Wolper yrthilian 641 N/A No Details 15/05/10 09:14:22
    Placing first in CCG in may

    Pazur yrthilian 640 N/A No Details 15/05/10 09:13:46
    Placing first in CCG in may

    stavaroiu yrthilian 620 Wish 28 Yes Details 14/04/10 11:50:03
    For placing first in the MP5 rank of the MD CCG run by myself and cutler

    Elthen Airis yrthilian 619 Wish 6 Yes Details 14/04/10 11:49:33
    For placing first in the MP4 rank of the MD CCG run by myself and cutler

    Manum yrthilian 618 N/A No Details 14/04/10 11:48:42
    For placing first in the MP3 rank of the MD CCG run by myself and cutler

    there's more but i'm bored now...

  6. [quote name='Tarquinus' timestamp='1291092302' post='73749']
    I have to say: I reject this line of thinking absolutely. You say MD is less "special" but you admit you weren't around to know what it was like before, and you provide no evidence at all, for example by citing similarities in other games, to support your opinion. And Kafuuka seems to be attacking a "straw hat man", to use his words, by claiming that WP for days (which I can only assume is his basis for saying this) will soon make Wish Points "common", and thus MD is "regressing toward the mean".
    [/quote]
    There is an entire thread on people debating the consequences of WP for days in the quantities we currently expect them to be delivered. If I remember correctly, several people would get more AD WP than the current bottom of the WP top has. As far as WP are concerned that is a regression towards the mean.
    I am not saying this is a bad thing per se. I am not saying MD overall is becoming less special. I say that it is easier to spot the things that we do not like. It is easier to pick up arms against a change we dislike and it is easier for me to think of examples of MD being automated more. eg. I think Rendril's job is to support automatization and that the council has mostly executive tasks. If I am asked to give examples of personal touch, I'd refer to the recent new tree in the game and Mur's current burst of activity on esoteric topics in the forum.
    In general I just don't spend as much time on agreeing with people. 'I think so too' doesn't make for interesting debates and +rep is virtually the same gesture. Whenever I tell someone something bad, I won't preface it with an extensive list of everything that's good.. it would consume too much time or worse, be incredibly short and even more insulting.

  7. A straw hat man is a person who is hired by party A and is purposefully 'defending' the thesis of the opposition B as poor as possible. To the unaware observer, it will look like the straw hat man belongs to party B and that B has horrible arguments, whereas thesis A looks sound.

    ie, whenever a poor argument is made by someone, there are two possibilities: either that person is bad at debating, or that person is loosing on purpose. Therefore it makes more sense to only look at valid arguments and not take into account invalid ones. (In logic there is no reason to take into account disproved arguments either, but decisions are seldom 100% based on logic.)

    The same tactic could have theoretically been applied both by and against Lifeline. I'm positive that the council is able to formulate their own arguments and that Lifeline had a more direct debate with them, not taking place in this thread. The questions and arguments posed here could have served as inspiration for either party, but imo only their own words actually used in their private debate should matter if one wishes to avoid deliberate interferences.

  8. [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1291052058' post='73703']
    Ah, then its merely another "mur i dont like what you did" topic basicly? Mur/council will do stuff that we may not like and also do things we do like, but i would hope that it would be for the best intrests of MD.

    I dont really see that we should draw upon this point, since this spell is pretty useless unless you want to abuse it. And i would assume since the council (hopefully) play (assuming these guys arnt some faceless suits helping mur) then surely they will also try and do stuff for the better?
    [/quote]
    Any change will be met with friction. I always considered debate an essential part of MD and thus it is only logical that changes to MD are discussed in the forum and naturally those who like the change the least will be most prone to start the discussion. Perhaps this negative discussion bias is impeding MD development, yet I'd like to believe Mur is capable of distilling the useful information.

    MD's current development [b]seems[/b] to be focused on automation and regression to the mean. RPCs are gone and clickies have become available to anyone with enough WPs. WPs will soon become common. One privilege has been taken now and several privileges have been taken before. On the other hand we have kings, the woodcutters and the lair keepers. Afaik, all three of those are still waiting until all features related to their tasks/privileges are implemented.
    Thus on one side of the scale we have little to no new special things and on the other hand we have a reduction of some special features and a vulgarization of others. With an emphasis on automation, it seems unlikely that many truly unique features will be added. Such is a contradiction in terminis anyway; a personal touch cannot be automated - unless we assume Mur will manage to create the first true AI. For many of us, this personal touch is what sets MD apart from other games. Whenever [b]we consider[/b] it to be threatened, we will speak up.

    On this particular issue: afaik it's the council's decision, not Mur's. If the particular spell is only useful for abuse, perhaps we should ask why Mur implemented in the first place? Certainly, Mur can make mistakes, but removing an entire spell because one person abused it and without it having met its original purpose, seems very wasteful to me.

  9. [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1291053064' post='73705']
    Personally i feel you probably made the issue worse with your continual posts without knowing the issue well enough. Im sure lifeline can easily defend himself well enough.
    [/quote]
    That's a bit harsh.
    1. If Lifeline thought/thinks this way too he should have asked to refrain from attempting to help before the verdict. If he does not think so, then it is not up to us to blame Tipu.
    2. Tipu is not the only one in this tread that sided with the people who got punished. Several others tried to defend themselves and/or Lifeline and complicated the discussion. The worst arguments were not Tipu's.
    3. The council should not base their results on the words of Tipu or anyone except for Lifeline, otherwise they leave themselves vulnerable to the straw hat man strategy.

  10. [quote name='VonUngernSternberg' timestamp='1291037741' post='73688']
    Thanks Mighty Pirate! I think the quest was really fun. The 6th riddle especially. I lost more than a day thinking why those numbers were prime...when they were not even numbers...
    [/quote]
    If the numbers are not numbers, how the heck did they all end up being primes?

  11. 1. Learn Language X and read Book Y in the original form
    Why not: I'm already fluent in Dutch and English and proficient in French. I've forgotten most about Latin and Greek.
    Why yes: clearly I am capable of learning languages.
    Why: Translations are inferior; some languages allow or at least make certain thought patterns easier.

    2. Write a book (create something new)
    Why not: too busy, too chaotic to make something coherent of such size, too many stories that have been told by others better.
    Why yes: my friends claim I have a good literary style (they might be lying though)
    Why: I want to.

    3. Refrain from commenting on other people's wishes listed above or below.
    Why not: Curiose scares me. Go visit a doctor!
    Why yes: all I should do is stop reading them.
    Why: It feels appropriate to preserve sanctity.

  12. [quote name='Grido' timestamp='1290874010' post='73417']
    the top...err...4/5 people who get nominated the most will be put forward to the vote

    please state objections to this, apologies for the *cough* up
    [/quote]
    Some of us were trying to help and only nominate people who were not nominated already. No good deed goes unpunished...

  13. [quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1290833550' post='73375']
    Now question still remains,
    but i would like, in case you comment your vote, to focus on "valuable" .. valuable for who? for that person? for its image and effect on the others around? valuable just so in general? It makes yes/no more interesting don't you think.
    [/quote]
    This question is completely tied to the question who determines whether a death is worthy, fitting, noble etc. Personally I think only three answers can be considered - in order of importance:
    a. The person who dies
    b. Some kind of deity
    c. The people who realize they profited from the death

    As a side note, I believe that everybody should have the right to die. Currently people do not have the right to live, but according to laws have a [b]duty[/b] to stay alive as long as possible.

  14. [quote name='Shadowseeker' timestamp='1290782545' post='73312']
    Questions made public previously in the forums might be accepted, but will earn negative points, according to who asks them, and how.
    <...>
    Send me the set of questions, no more than 5, but at least one, to me via PM or forum PM. The questions sent in and recognised will be displayed in a topic seperate from this.
    [/quote]
    Will each question be treated separately or is it the sum that counts?

  15. @alekrj
    It's interesting that you both are unaware of past events and able to spot trends.

    @Tipu
    MD is not real life. While comparisons and analogies are interesting, in this case I fail to see why I should not dismiss them with those words. If MD were real life, and we know that Manu is the creator of MD, then I am forced to refer to the countless mythologies about deities who destroy countries and kill millions of people just because they are bored.
    [quote name='Tipu' timestamp='1290793614' post='73330']
    3) They entered the cave since they left with no other options for a safer training place as balcony was attacked by Anti GGG force.
    4) Secrecy of the location of the training was most important and thus Lord lifeline kept this training as a secret due to GG king wasn't informed.
    <...>
    c) Nature of the crime :
    Entering the restricted area but also we have see did they gain anthing by doing so?. They didn't.
    [/quote]
    Once again, motives are of low importance. Especially in this case it is annoying people keep referring to 'boogeymen' who 'forced' the perpetrators into their crime. There always are alternatives. Similarly whether anything was gained is irrelevant to the establishment of guilt. Breaking and entering into a poor man's house and noticing there is nothing to steal is still a crime. Not one that pays well or is worth the risk, but a crime nonetheless.
    As for referring to other crimes and their punishments. This is afaik the first reported crime of this type and hence the reference to prior cases is void. References to different cases and their low punishments can either be interpreted as those crimes not being punished enough or this crime to be punished too severe or as this crime being a more serious crime. Most people would agree that most crimes so far have not been punished severely at all. Very few will say that this crime is being punished too much an sich. I hardly doubt there is any consensus on the severity of this crime. To infer that this crime is being punished too hard, is not as easy as you think. People have been set free sooner or later than the proposed date or let out for the holidays and various sorts of things. ie punishments have not always been carried out to the letter.

    Also, I think alekjr did find the cave while the tiny people found it. Not certain if that was a typo or intentional.

  16. [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1290667483' post='73149']
    My suggestion was to have people "vote" for who they want initially then take the top 5. Then revote.

    Also its not really fair saying the first X people can be considered and all others arent eligible, thats just mean.
    [/quote]
    If you need to reduce choices, then have nominations be seconded or similar (eg restrict this requirement to those the organizers don't "get"). Floating ballot voting is going to be a huge hassle for the ones organizing.

  17. [quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290636733' post='73115']
    Discuss/suggest, but don't make this into an argument about Necrovion rebellion, please; it's about rebel system as a whole. Thanks.
    [/quote]
    If you don't want me to discuss the Necrovion rebellion, then don't mention you are actively participating in it. For one you couldn't have accomplished everything (this is not a typo), because you didn't bother to talk to all of the characters who are related to Necrovion yet. Why do you think there is a shu item for the king?

    As for the % indicator:
    1. If people are afraid to join a rebellion because there aren't many who did and are opportunists when things are in favor of the rebellion, this could be remedied by lagging the % indicator by a week. I don't know if it really is an issue though, real rebellions have trouble finding members until it is clear that they will win; nobody likes to join the losing team.
    2. If there are multiple rebellion groups who don't feel like cooperating, a single % indicator is misleading.

  18. Adventuring Award (quester)
    VonUngernSternberg (he solved the emo topaz quest!!! And I realize using three exclamation marks is a sign of craziness, but crazy is what it is)

    [quote name='Fyrd Argentus' timestamp='1290637581' post='73120']
    Prime Quest (best quest)
    "What number am I?" (Cutler's work is what pulled me into Magic Duel)
    [/quote]
    Isn't that one from last year? It seems ages ago to me.

    *edit* ok, borderline last year: Rewarded by Cutler on 06/11/09 - What number am I WP Quest

  19. [quote name='Lifeline' timestamp='1290629509' post='73097']
    i dont know if my english just sucks or if people dont read clearly. i said in my first sentence of my last post that this isnt about if i am guilty or not. i wouldnt have teleported everybody out if i thought i wasnt guilty. and mur i told u in an email as well that i know that i am guilty. i just didnt know that i committed something that was a crime but after talking to akasha i realized that it indeed was one.[/quote]
    Frankly yes your English sucks. The way I read the above is that you don't debate that you are not guilty and then immediately add reasons why you are not guilty or did not know you were doing something wrong (which is different from not being guilty but I doubt everybody is keeping track of that distinction). Your words sometimes seem to defend the first and sometimes the second position. Consequently people sometimes attack the first or the second or both. If you admit guilt and state that being uninformed is solely to be taken into account for determining the extent of the punishment, people should stop pleading against the first position.
    [quote]
    and as for punishment there exists 3 types of punishments: temporary ones, permanent ones and irrecoverable ones. looking at almost all punishments given they are almost all temporary (jail, stat reduction, curses, warnings, ect). a punishment that is both permanent and irrecoverable (meaning the punished thing wont ever be gained back) happens only for the worst crimes i saw so far.[/quote]
    There's two possible theses which can be argued. Either your punishment is too heavy or other people's punishments are too light. These are not equivalent theses! If you argue the latter, I will agree, if you argue the former I will not. If you wish to argue that they are equivalent, I personally do not believe there truly is such a thing as 'fair'; there is only an intent to make things fair according to ones own norms and perceptions of such a concept. It is my belief that Mur acknowledges this too.

    As for lack of punishment on frequent crimes... I don't think those crimes are often reported, which makes for one huge difference with your crime. I personally am not wanting to raise trouble by picking on each and every small alt abuse I notice or every spoiler etc. I would make a stance if I consistently saw the same person doing small crimes, but I rarely look for these things and instead stumble upon them accidentally. Perhaps we have need of an inquisition; a group of people who commit themselves to looking for any and all crimes and which is not part of the 'council'. They could sum up all the petty crimes that we as individuals loose track off. But there will never be a guarantee that group will not turn a blind eye to some people. Those people can still be researched by others, but unless someone either has a reason to suspect them and/or dislikes them enough to keep track, the general populace will assume they are clean because the inquisition isn't stalking them.

  20. [i]"An other condamnable act is that a King of a land cares to develop something in an other land, ignoring borders, and not trying to bring the activiy to his land."[/i]
    Since it wasn't mentioned in this thread, I take it this is not being contested?

    [quote name='Lifeline' timestamp='1290478779' post='72837']
    It merely says it is closed with RJ still having access to it. it NEVER says anywhere that the location is offlimits or illegal to enter. since i know i will have to be real clear on this: open is the opposite of closed.
    [/quote]
    The word closed often implies off limits. In this case the implication is very clear and anybody that is around long enough knows that Mur isn't the kind of person who is going to triple check his statements for being juridically perfect. But let us take your second quote: [i]"drach cave is closed explicitly, regardless if you have access to it or not."[/i] ie, the cave is "closed" even if it is mechanically "open". So either Mur was trying to contradict himself or he used "closed" to imply "off limits".

    [quote]PLUS: i have another very good reason and PROOF why this punishment and whole incident has nothing to do with breaking rules, announcements, written laws or even offending anything that was ever mentioned to me or other people. i will not post that openly on forums but once i know who to contact with this i will send it to that/those person/s. i will ask if i am allowed to post that proof here because then the ultimate proof will be served.[/quote]
    So it was impossible for you to contact either Mur or Chewett discretely? I know Chewett is not in charge of the game, but he is in charge of the forum so he should be able to help you. You couldn't wait even for a single day? Instead you post that you have ultimate proof, leading to another ten pages of speculation on whether or not you have it.

    [quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290492154' post='72845']
    Fenrir vs. dst: Where in MD does it say you can't slander someone? I mean, I'm even doing it a bit in this post. Fenrir went to jail anyways.
    [/quote]
    I'm quite certain it isn't allowed. Any online community has a standard 'no slander, sexual harassment, denial of holocaust...' policy because those things are not legal in the country where the server exists and legal blah blah... it's also common sense.


    [quote name='Tipu' timestamp='1290502913' post='72873']
    1)First of all these things happened cos MP5 players wants to train without being attacked and getting a loss.
    2)That was not posible in an open area as they will be attacked.
    3)So they chose to go balcony, even that area will discovered and attacked
    4)Then they left with only one choise and that is Cave.
    [/quote]
    Motives are interesting to consider when determining punishment. They are not relevant to establishing guilt.

    [quote]
    7)How come the same rule applies to a MD char and a normal players.
    [/quote]
    We're upset the same rules apply to everyone? Not that I know what 'MD char' you are referring to...

    [quote]
    And i know many player who r close and friendly to Lord life line plz speak up. Plz don't see what Game creator will think of u or other will think about u. Its a matter of Loyalty, Friendship which other can't understand.
    [/quote]
    This is the court section of the forum. If you want to show support without arguments, there are other and more efficient ways.

  21. [quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1290390912' post='72747']
    My problem with the Most Influential award is that sometimes influence isn't easily seen, because there are many things done in MD behind closed doors, as I understand it, and knowing that, then one could assume that there is some measure of effort to keep such actions unknown, and so how can we accurately judge what we don't even know about?
    [/quote]
    This applies to many of the awards. eg. Best fighter: unless you have very active alts on each and every mp level, you can only judge your own mp level. Oh you could exclude it to best mp5 level fighter, but then don't count on the lower level people voting based upon knowledge. Best bug researcher. Helper of the year: if you didn't experience problems, you didn't request help and your only base for judgement is either hearsay or activity in the paper cabin, ie not the best helper, but the most active or most liked helper. Most addicted should actually be measured in terms of time online/time that could be spent online. Someone with a job naturally has less time to spend online than a student, but might be spending most of their free time online and thus is more addicted imo. Golden protector: once again little info if you don't have a protector, and actually difficult to compare if you only ever had one. Evil villain: an efficient villain will remain anonymous. Best quote: if a Bob falls in an everpuddle and no Ledahs are there to see it, does it make a sound? etc etc

  22. 1. Awiiya said debating is a common activity. I would go further and claim that debating is a core activity of MD. It might have been a long time since the MD university or one of Mur's 'lectures' but I still consider those activities one of the things that makes MD different.

    2. Every award is subjective. Do we really want to debate on how subjective it is to assign a measure of subjectivity to subjective awards? Plus if the in game vote system is used, people can be required to give reasons for this award.

  23. [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' timestamp='1290282207' post='72685']
    Also a newb, or a new alt has nothing to lose by cheating (considering the account is not yet developed).
    People owning an item usually have much more to lose by abusing the system.
    [/quote]
    On various occasions Mur has said that he is less likely to show mercy to very new players and that punishments for deeds of alts might be extended to the 'main'.

    Homing items are interesting if used correctly, however they are more prone to abuse than usable items without pigeon genetics. You say you have not witnessed any cases yet, whereas I have long ago seen the effect of people being granted the power to make 'money' out of nothing. Back when coins were first introduced, one RPC proposed to 'trade' his spell document for a certain amount of coins. For those who don't know how spell docs and RPCs operated, RPCs were able to give people copies of their spell document and did so to reward people for quests. I do not consider 'give me five coins' a quest, but an abuse of a given privilege.

  24. [quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' timestamp='1290274901' post='72662']
    I would like to suggest a feature that allows me to transfer an usable item to somebody else for period of time or limited number of uses (so for example nobody crosses me over when I transfer Lorerootian Pass papers to someone for one-time use)
    [/quote]
    I highly doubt you'll ever be able to edit the pass papers themselves and making a tool that allows you to make items returning, is nice for those who have such a tool, but allows them to cross over others. What would stop you from making every item you trade come back to you even if that is not what the other party agreed upon? It seems to me you are dumping the problem of breach of trust onto the other party instead of actually solving it.

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