[quote name='Grido' date='04 July 2009 - 01:58 PM' timestamp='1246741103' post='36149']
[font="Verdana"]FACTS:
[list][*]He has cheated in (at least) two previous HC's
[*]He was warned that should he continue along that path, he would get banned.
[*]He (and his alts) got banned/warned due to cheating in this latest HC.
[*]Stopping him from competing in the HC, or removing reward from it would not affect him as he could then just use a different alt.
[*]This punishment is not exclusively for Lightsage, under the same, or similar circumstances, the punishment would be the same.[/list]
The following are personal statements:
[list][*]The statement that "nobody was competing, it needed spicing up" doesn't count for anything, we have HC's every few months in which nobody competes, doesnt mean cheating is needed.
[*]"nobody was harmed" doesn't count for anything. Me robbing a bank is still against the law even if i dont hurt anyone (extreme i know, but the point stands).
[*]Banning all the accounts is perhaps the only thing which might make him realise what he has done on numerous occaisions was wrong.
[*]There is no justification in joining late and cheating because otherwise people would accidently win. Things don't need to be "spiced up".
[*]Stating things like "if he doesn't get unbanned i'm leaving MD!" doesn't help. At all.
[*]"He had a well-developed char." Even if someone has the best developed role in the game, perfection in rp, and they do something they're told previously will get them banned, they should still get banned.
[*]Winning the HC in this mannor is for personal benefit, the character that places in the HC gains from it.
[*]Banning is appropriate punishment because there is no other punishment which would affect him in the same way as that.
[*]Cheating is not enthusiasm for the game.
[*]Other people, they get warned, they learn, and don't do it again.
[*]Just because you're able to cheat, doesn't mean you should.
[*]A stat reduction as punishment, he would just regain the stats, and quickly.
[*]The rules are not selectively enforced, they're just enforced upon those that ignore them.
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Grido, your points are more confusion and handwaving over the real issues here. We're talking about banning a char, and some alts, not banning a player. You seem to mix the two. I don't agree that removing a main char is appropriate. But that's what is at issue here. The player is still in the game as Mur said he's allowed new accounts. The char this poll concerns did not in any way gain from the HC, and couldn't have done as he'd won it in the past.