Passant the Weak

New year, but still willing to exchange enchanted stones. Contact me the way you like if you're interested.

[quote name='Kyphis the Bard' timestamp='1325625273' post='99542'] So yes, yrthilian did what he wasn't supposed to, but he was doing what he wasn't supposed to in response to someone else doing what they wheren't "supposed to". Doesn't make it any more or less right or wrong, but it does change the facts. [/quote] That's where I probably disagree. "What they weren't supposed to do". To me it's not the council to judge that. Unless I understood its role wrong, which I'm likely to! However I understand the rationale now. It's probably just the wording that sounded strange. I would have perfectly understood something like "yrthilian is considered not guilty because he faced an unexpected situation with what he had in hands", rather than saying tat the 2 others are guilty.

[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1325585342' post='99467'] as for what they said. I think it is interesting that they made a comment on the actions of the others, but it does partially explain why there is no punishment on yrth or anything. Otherwise i would asking why hasn't he lost a trust point or something. In their eyes they are all guilty so there is no punishment. It does however clarify that land laws still apply in this period of no kings... or i think it does. [/quote] Do you mean that the answer to my question is "yes" ? And that the council should also take care of the politics and ingame behaviour of players in regards to land rules and what not?

And the WP has now been distributed. Thanks Seigheart and the Treasure Keepers. And thanks a lot again to all participants. That thread can be closed now.

Hello! I make reference to this annoucement by the council about the Yrthilan/Azull question (use of King tools after retirement). I have a question regarding the council's role in general. [i]Please don't discuss here about the yrthilian/Azull dispute in particular, this is not the subject, and there is another thread for that.[/i] [log=annoucement][color="#cccccc"]Ann. 2156 - [2012-01-02 23:16:00 - Stage 11][/color] All king items have been removed from the Kings, all King powers have also been removed. Azull has been unjailed. Our thoughts: -Yrthilian is guilty because he used tools although he was not supposed to as he is no longer King, items are allowed to be used by those who possess them though. -Kiley is guilty for breaking the land rules put in place by the former king. -Azull is guilty for not fully thinking about what his actions meant. Past what we, the council, have already done, we will take no further action.[/log] While I understand that the coucil voices his opinion/judgement about yrthilian (he is using tools from the game that are subject to game rules/regulations), I was suprised that the coucil voiced his opinion about Kiley and Azull actions. Those actions are to me pure ingame actions, involving nothing related to game rules. I would have thought that this is not council responsibility to decide whether those actions are legitimate or not. My question: is the council to raise opinion about diplomatic/ingame policy? I looked for a definition of the council role, but did not mange to find one. Thanks!

All prizes have been distributed except the WP for ShadowSeeker who is still pending distribution by Treasure Keepers. I apologize for this very long delay. I'm totally dependant on other's actions on that matter.

Does it mean that the rest was sold?

Going slightly offtopic: I agree with Paracelcus. Beyond the retired king thingy, there is a very strange behaviour of Golemus as a land: they jail someone, because he was invited in a GG guild.... That attitude, puts a negative light to GG in my eyes. If they had an issue with him joining that guild.... well, couldn't they have him off the guild?

Amber, I would agree with you ifthe bonus was based on visits madein the land. But that was discussed elsewhere as xrieg pointed out. Here, it is the citizenship that grants the bonus, which to me means the land recognizes you. loyalty is probably inaproprate word, yet it makes a bit of sense. you could always find a good real live analogy to translate that "loyalty". For example, as a citizen, you get used to (and recognized by) the bureaucracy in the land, which allows you to travel easier. When you lose citizenship, the bureaucracy knows it and makes you feel it Pip, my suggestion stands even with no people "forcing" the way to several citizenships. Even for loyal people who change their citizenship in their MD life, I believe the bonus should be granted only to their current land. That's why i suggest an ingame mechanism.

Hello, After a bit of time experiencing the viscosity system, along with the land loyalty bonus, I'm fairly convinced that Land loyalty should be counted only for current citizens of the land, when it comes to calculate AP needed to move from one place to another. Currently you get the loyalty bonus for any land you have been member of in the past. That does not sound right to me. I know some people think differently, but this is how I see things: - you get an AP bonus because the land recognizes you as loyal to it and becasue yourself have accumulated days as citizens that make you familiar to the land - if you leave the land, it considers you have chosen another land to love and it does not grant you the AP bonus anymore (however your loyalty still exists somewhere, just does not grant you teh AP bonus) - if you come back to the land eventually, your AP bonus is re-activated. I know some peope of the east claim they are still loyal to their former land, but to me they are not different from other people who change their citizenship: one day theywere offered to join Mur's troops orstay in their orginal land. they have made their choice. Feel free to contradict me! That won't change my mind though, and I'dloveto see that suggestion implemented.

Welcome to this strange place. I hope you'll enjoy it as much as I've been for almost one year now.

Best wishes to you all and your family, friends, beloved, etc.

Please confim deadline will not be before January 7 or so. I wish to participate but won't be able before I'm back home after the 2nd.

Hello, I would like to get a Morph. Only one. I am wiling to pay with credits. I am mostly off until Jauary 2, but I am checking PMs reularly. Feel free to submit your offer via forum PM if you want discretion. Thanks!

Hedge: you won 1 silver for participating in teh quest. I still owe you. Shadowseeker: your WP did not get burried, it was not born yet. I am awaiting Treasure Keepers instructions on that matter. I was told patience is a virtue in MD, let's show we master it please.

To me you should keep it simple: - keep running alliance forums as you do, one leader and one deputy tat can take over if something happens - whatever happens to the alliance is not your business: you keep current leaders for forums as long as they don't ask for a change, and you do no grant access to anyone if appointed forum leaders don't ask. This shall stay even if alliance is taken over for whatever reason - if a dispute occurs between new alliance leader (for example after a take over) and "legacy" alliance/forum leader, then you still do nothing....but create a new private forum should the new alliance leader ask for it. My 2 cts.

No news on my side unfortunately. All rewards distributed except WP for ShadowSeeker and 1 silver for Hedge (I need to find him!)

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[quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1323696583' post='97768'] TK sponsorship still stands. Just a side note, I had no intentions on judging any result. I just wanted to make sure there were actual submissions. [/quote] That's great news. Thank you and the Treasure keepers! You have an e-mail pending for a few days in regards to this. feel free to answer it for letting me know how to distribute the reward.

I'll start! 2 sc

So, Leixer got his WP from Peace... and it's now ShadowSeeker who must be patient

I was asked to post here. Thanks to whoever nominated me! This account was opened on (DD.MM.YYYY H:M): [b]01.02.2011 17:48 [/b]Activity days: [b]98% [/b] (A total of 304 out of 311 days)

Ok, thanks for the heads up! Peace was confident she could give you, we will wait until she manages... or fails, and arrange things accordingly.

And another way is to apply (and be selected) after a public annoucement is made, that's how I got my Sand Melter. It's not for sale though.

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