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[Seigheart]

Thank you dearly, my friend.

[Shadowseeker]

I haven't counted myself, but I'll take your word on it. Now..while I'd prefer to have the people actually present at the revival ceremony (I think wind's sanc sounds good enough, maybe something like 23:00 servertime on a date we set)- please each of you prepare one simple line (that fits into one line in MD chat) as to why Seigheart should be revived. If possible, please try to avoid multiple mentions of the same reason.

E.g: Because he is my friend. Because he does his job for the community. Because nobody should stay dead for that long.

Or something along those lines. Just have Seig (or whoever else he wants his spokesperson to be) tell these lines during the ceremony. I'd appreciate a copy as well so I can create my own challenges better for the responses in return, for I will play the devil's advocate part in it.

[Tom Pouce]

If i cannot be there this would be my line:

"[u][i][b]Because he dont want to remain dead ![/b][/i][/u]"

Edited September 3, 2012 by Tom Pouce

[Seigheart]

Weds will be the only day that I can be there at that specific time. It would have to be much later, or earlier if I am to attend any other day of the week.

[Fyrd Argentus]

Yes, any point to be made or lesson to be learned has gone very stale. Seig being dead on special occasions is one thing, but being dead indefinitly is bad.

Raise the dead.

[Fang Archbane]

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Edited December 29, 2017 by Fang Archbane

[Seigheart]

Don't trust me completely though... that's just stupid.

[dst]

[quote name='Fang Archbane' timestamp='1346712230' post='121395']
I think Seigheart should live for a couple of reasons.

1) hes my Boss, and i need the head of the Treasure Keepers to run my job smoothly.
2) hes my friend, and seeing him incapacitated hurts me.
3) the community needs him, whether they like to admit it or not. hes an important part to Quest Hosting, and Mur trusts him, so the community should to (or at least thats my honest opinion)
[/quote]

1) Subjective reason. I, as a normal player, don't care if your internal system is so badly defined that you can't work without your boss.
2) Subjective reason. I can't care less who your friends are or what they do especially if they are not my friends.
3) Incorrect. The community doesn't need TKs. It was just one of Mur's crazy ideas. I haven't seen any improvement in quests creation since TKs were formed. Even more, I've seen more stress and arguments since they were formed because TKs can't do their job good (even when fenrir was alive). Players used to do quests and sponsor them from their own pockets. Today it's the same: if a player wants to start a quest he/she must be sure he/she can provide a reward (even if it's just few silver coins) because he/she has no guarantee that TKs will sponsor his/her quest.
So bottom line: stop the bs with "I can't do my job cause I am dead". You were unable to do your job even when you were alive. Why? Cause you're incompetent.

Have a nice day!

Edited September 4, 2012 by dst

[Ackshan Bemunah]

(Don't count me in, my laptop is busted and I won't be able to be present at any ceremony soon.) dst, keep it coming, I'm sure there are many who are more thoughtful when under attack, something you seem to know...and arguably one of the primary reasons we need the treasure keepers, to attack quests...unfortunately primary reasons don't always become primary goals.

I don't know if the community needs another voice of gripe, we have enough of that, but it's not something Seigheart has lost as a dead character in any case. If anything death has filtered out some of his other roles..."Revive him so he has something to do besides argue" would be my line.

[Jubaris]

Nadrolski just got killed as well. Can he be involved in the resurrection process as well?

[Fang Archbane]

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Edited December 29, 2017 by Fang Archbane

[Shadowseeker]

I would appreciate if all who signed up either gave a line to me. I want to do this sooner rather than later, and I would need those preferably.

[Pipstickz]

Seigheart should be alive because in his place, it's what I would want. Plus, the death mechanic is becoming overused, while revivals are generally long after the death in question and involve much effort from the community. One click of a button needs a month or so of heat voting, 30 gold coins or Molquert's thing to be undone.

[Jubaris]

Because treasure keeping reward system is not functioning while he's dead.

Any response on Nadrolski question, please?

Edited September 6, 2012 by Rhaegar Targaryen

[Ivorak]

Seigheart has not been forgotten so he is, in a way, still alive. May his flesh be as his spirit.

[Fire Starter]

Ah, a line, almost slipped of my mind...

Mine is: "If Seigh is happy, than I am too. Seigh should live, so I could be happy"

[Maebius]

Death is a lesson, but not a permanent state, in this realm. For that reason alone, he should Live again, for now.

[Fire Starter]

Indeed it's a lesson, Maebs. But we are yet to see if has Seigh learned it.

[Curiose]

Count me out. : D

[Fire Starter]

Is that a line, Curiose, or an unsubscription?

[Burns]

Disabled a few posts. If you just want to insult each other, use a PM.

[Curiose]

Aw. My response to Firestarter wasn't an insult. : p And nor was my last one!

My response to firestarter, once more:

If it meant helping my friends who have been killed off, then sure, count my vote! But I won't for someone who found setting up a party useless and undesirable, who then took up every chance to go to one so long as the effort was wasted on someone else.

So if that is at all possible, Sure. : p

Edited September 9, 2012 by Curiose

[Shadowseeker]

"Seigheart is important to both myself and the community, and thus, i deem him worthy of revival."- Fang Archbane
dead man is of little use.- Neno Veliki
Death is a lesson, but not a permanent state, in this realm. For that reason alone, he should Live again, for now.- Maebius
"If Seigh is happy, than I am too. Seigh should live, so I could be happy"- Fire Starter
"[b][i]Because he dont want to remain dead ![/i][/b]"- Tom Pouce
Yes, any point to be made or lesson to be learned has gone very stale. Seig being dead on special occasions is one thing, but being dead indefinitly is bad.
Raise the dead.- Fyrd Argentus

Seigheart has not been forgotten so he is, in a way, still alive. May his flesh be as his spirit.- Ivorak
Because treasure keeping reward system is not functioning while he's dead.- Princ Rhaegar
Seigheart should be alive because in his place, it's what I would want. Plus, the death mechanic is becoming overused, while revivals are generally long after the death in question and involve much effort from the community. One click of a button needs a month or so of heat voting, 30 gold coins or Molquert's thing to be undone.- Pipstickz

If I count right that is indeed 9 lines. If anybody wants to edit theirs, please tell me before the event. I'm currently asking Seig for when he can do it, but it will be around wednesday, 20-23 servertime (around there) if he can indeed.

EDIT: 21 servertime it is.

Edited September 10, 2012 by Shadowseeker

[Fire Starter]

I needed a response? Hmm, I must've misread some of the posts above. Nevertheless, thank you Curiose.

About the Hour - is it a must for us to be present? Sadly, I doubt I will be able to provide my presence any more than being idle.

[Shadowseeker]

Well, I'd obviously prefer for the ones vouching for seig to be present, but there is no need for them to be actually present.