I made a new alt to see what the MP3 experience is like at the moment, and while in some ways it has improved since my last attempt... 5 or so years ago, in some ways it has gotten worse.

Here are a few points I think could use some improvements:

This sign always just makes me feel bad. While encouraging people to read stuff is great, this kinda punishes them without warning and forces people to play the game in a certain way. You can also reach the scene this sign is in before even starting to make the map, which means you'll be forced to look at the shovel for 20 some minutes. Allow people their own form of creativity.

15 minutes is a long time to make someone wait. Especially because the first fight immediately shows the "you lost your first fight" screen if you don't have an aramor (or other offensive creature) without showing the actual fight, so it might take a while for a player to realize what's going on.

Another point is viscosity, which can drain a new player's AP pretty quickly, leaving them stranded.

There used to be people on GWI that helped new players find their bearings. I'm sure there still are, but during my time there I only saw Chewett's bug testing alt. Which makes the flight escape impossible and makes the 3/5 days until you're able to go to the mainland kinda lonely. You can gather resources and explore the island, but other than that there isn't a whole lot to do unless you know what to look for. While I think it's good to encourage new players to explore the island as much as possible, the wait times feel unnecessarily long. In my opinion we should allow players to make their way to the mainland whenever they feel ready, because we can't make them wait when they don't really have a reason to come back yet.

Finally when you come to the mainland you'll have all of MD to explore... And maybe 2 alts to fight against, if people remember to pull them out. The Splintered Apparition isn't really feasible for a fresh MP3 and (at least at this point) the card fights are a lot more complicated than normal fights. I think it would be good if there were a similar opponent to the Splinters that is leveled to MP3 players.

I've been trying to help a few of the MP3s like Turth Speaker but they're basically soft locked behind the combat.

The splintered apparition is meant to be an end game quest for those who understand combat. Unless I wildly misunderstood the quests purpose, it isn't clearable by the fresh accounts because the knowledge required is not that of fresh accounts.

20 minutes ago, Fang Archbane said:

The splintered apparition is meant to be an end game quest for those who understand combat. Unless I wildly misunderstood the quests purpose, it isn't clearable by the fresh accounts because the knowledge required is not that of fresh accounts.

Were not talking about clearing it. Were talking they cant even get a win from the first one because its still tough for them. Almost anything should beat the first one.

22 minutes ago, Fang Archbane said:

The splintered apparition is meant to be an end game quest for those who understand combat. Unless I wildly misunderstood the quests purpose, it isn't clearable by the fresh accounts because the knowledge required is not that of fresh accounts.

When it was created it was stated that it was balanced so that people could farm it when people were lacking targets. Whoever suggested changing it to 15 minutes has somewhat destroyed that

41 minutes ago, Chewett said:

When it was created it was stated that it was balanced so that people could farm it when people were lacking targets. Whoever suggested changing it to 15 minutes has somewhat destroyed that

i blame me :( i asked if getting creature wins on it was a bug, it replied it was not, then quietly changed it to a 15 minute cooldown for some reason, now everyone is mad at me (myself included) D:

Edited October 4Oct 4 by Syrian

Maybe it's time for a bug report about the cooldown being too long.

1 hour ago, Chewett said:

When it was created it was stated that it was balanced so that people could farm it when people were lacking targets.

This is what I was thinking off. A decently geared out MP4 should be able to beat at least the first couple without much trouble and work your way up that way, but for a fresh MP3 there's really nothing you can do.

4 hours ago, Seigheart said:

Were not talking about clearing it. Were talking they cant even get a win from the first one because its still tough for them. Almost anything should beat the first one.

Aaaah, ok now that makes more sense to me. Yes, I agree there, they should be able to win and lose against the first splinter. My apologies for the misunderstanding.

4 hours ago, Chewett said:

When it was created it was stated that it was balanced so that people could farm it when people were lacking targets. Whoever suggested changing it to 15 minutes has somewhat destroyed that

I also completely agree here. I have no idea why anyone changed the cooldown timer from 3ish mins to 15ish mins. The entire realm was using it for creature growth, which was boosting the economy in a good way.

4 hours ago, Syrian said:

i blame me :( i asked if getting creature wins on it was a bug, it replied it was not, then quietly changed it to a 15 minute cooldown for some reason, now everyone is mad at me (myself included) D:

That explains it. I did see the bug report post. I had a feeling it was an underlying misunderstanding. Don't blame yourself. I don't.

4 hours ago, Kaya said:

Maybe it's time for a bug report about the cooldown being too long.

Risky, but an option. Tread with care.

3 hours ago, Kaya said:

This is what I was thinking off. A decently geared out MP4 should be able to beat at least the first couple without much trouble and work your way up that way, but for a fresh MP3 there's really nothing you can do.

I would say the first two, absolutely.

Edited October 5Oct 5 by Fang Archbane

I was told to post

I need lots of wins to level my creatures

I can't beat the npc

I beat the armors at willows

There is no one to fight

How can I progress?

Seigheart told me chewett will fix this, when should I return to find it fixed?

31 minutes ago, Truth Speaker said:

I was told to post

I need lots of wins to level my creatures

I can't beat the npc

I beat the armors at willows

There is no one to fight

How can I progress?

Card fights between players is not restricted to mind power. That is always, and will always be an option. Whether or not you're a fan of card fights is a completely different topic, but it's there.

23 minutes ago, Truth Speaker said:

Seigheart told me chewett will fix this, when should I return to find it fixed?

If the sentence begins with Seigheart said, I immediately invalidate it. That isn't a personal problem or a bias, he's simply taught me over time that anything that comes out of his mouth needs triple verification before I even start to consider believing him.

Chewett is not the main person currently in charge of bug reports. In fact, it isn't a person at all. If you have a bug, use the Help button at the top of the screen and click on live help. It will open a window to an AI agent you can describe your perceived bug to, and if you give it enough information on the subject, it will forward a bug report to Eggdar (who's currently off auto reply, since he's being flooded with bug reports both in game and on forums). It might take a while, but Egg will get to your bug report.

Just be aware that abusing or misleading Eggdar with a bug report submission that isn't a true bug report submission might carry consequences.

A proper bug gets you + bug hunter points. A misunderstanding or an attempt to abuse Egg will lead to consequences. Tread with care.

Edited October 9Oct 9 by Fang Archbane

Fang, nothing we talked about are bugs. It is all design issues/feature requests. Those don't go to Eggdar. That being said, as far as I know none of this is actively being worked on at the moment and that's definitely something we should change :D

I would love to help build some combat challenges for MP3/4 players, though. With the splinter setup it shouldn't be too difficult to create, for example, a sparring partner in the sparring grounds at the Marble Dale Park. Give me the right access and I'll do it :)

25 minutes ago, Kaya said:

Fang, nothing we talked about are bugs. It is all design issues/feature requests. Those don't go to Eggdar. That being said, as far as I know none of this is actively being worked on at the moment and that's definitely something we should change :D

I would love to help build some combat challenges for MP3/4 players, though. With the splinter setup it shouldn't be too difficult to create, for example, a sparring partner in the sparring grounds at the Marble Dale Park. Give me the right access and I'll do it :)

If none of these are bugs then the only person to go to about this would indeed be Mur. In my humble opinion.

As for your idea about taking over the test hurdles for rituals, it's an amazing idea. If you need any help from a seasoned combat veteran, I would love to help, and I know at least two others who would most likely do the same for you.

I don't need admin access etc. Responsibility disgusts me and I will deny it at every chance for as long as I live. But helping you from the Shadows?.. that's my style. Let me know if I can be of any service, Dear Friend.

Edited October 10Oct 10 by Fang Archbane

1 hour ago, Truth Speaker said:

I was told to post

I need lots of wins to level my creatures

I can't beat the npc

I beat the armors at willows

There is no one to fight

How can I progress?

i'm pulling me mp3 from the island so that should be one extra for you later

Once I revive after I'm done with my current research, I can go MP7 to give them a 24 hour window to grind as much as they can on me via classic combat. I'll set a single b/w tree in defense unless they need me to swap.

12 hours ago, Truth Speaker said:

Seigheart told me chewett will fix this, when should I return to find it fixed?

I don't know what this is in reference to. I'm currently not a GM and am not fixing anything related to this currently.

Apologies

TLDR @Truth Speaker - You need people to:

• Login to MP3 alts for you

• Challenge people to card fights

• Get some MP7 online

@Sunfire I gave you what you wanted in the Lab, to my great personal disgust I might add. Time to help this new player with your MP7ness. You are the only MP7 we can count on. Even with your.... predilections.

PS: When are well meeting to burn Sy at the stake for the cooldown change btw? I'm busy next week, but free after that.

2 hours ago, Ledah said:

PS: When are well meeting to burn Sy at the stake for the cooldown change btw? I'm busy next week, but free after that.

On 10/10/2026 at 7:30 AM, Chewett said:

I don't know what this is in reference to. I'm currently not a GM and am not fixing anything related to this currently.

Apologies

So you werent working on this? My apologies. You still act like you're a GM. It's hard to tell if you've made up your mind about quitting or not. shrugs

25 minutes ago, Seigheart said:

So you werent working on this? My apologies. You still act like you're a GM. It's hard to tell if you've made up your mind about quitting or not. shrugs

I have never said I am working on this, I have renounced all my previous admin tooling, I am not working on the game.

Just now, Chewett said:

I have never said I am working on this, I have renounced all my previous admin tooling, I am not working on the game.

Ah, it seems to change every day. Hard to keep up.

@Truth Speaker

I've revived, sorry for the delay, the research ran long.

Let me know when you're free, and I can give you a 24 hour window to train on my defense as you see fit. Let me know if you'd like any changes to defense in a pm and I'll adjust accordingly.

If you would rather handle the required losses and wins on your own with outgoing attacks, feel free. If you would prefer I give you losses in defense while you attack in offense, that works as well.

Just let me know. I'm always happy to help.