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That was precisely the reason why i stopped from punishing him myself and turned this into a public trial.

ivorak, very interesting what comes out when you put a spotlight on someone.....(i hope he has an explenation?) i want to make a more general clarification for other people that might work with me in the future.. there are people that have the common sense to do things in a way where no explenations are needed and no rules presented or "contracts signed" ...and those that need clarifications in extreme detail on what is ok and what is not ok to do, or find loopholes in the given rules and use those. It is one thing to behave like that as a player (fine by me), and an absolutely totally different thing to behave like that with me or chew or in any official developing group or presence (not fine). It would be too offtopic to continue to explain here why, but if its something you don;t understand how come, then you probably fall in the category of people that have the potential to step wrong in such a cooperation, so better avoid. I wish to work just with people that have common sense and respect and that don;t need a detailed set of rules to know what is ok and what is not ok to do when given tools for admin purposes.

https://magicduel.com/page/Announcement/view/4038 Please post here if you have old things that interfere CLEARLY with the new things recently released, and i will try to change them in your advantage instead of just changing them as i will with all the other, because this helps me find such issues better. Tags changed due to the new Resource Merchant tag: none(!yey!)

update: if he gets voted innocent, i will still consider this incident as somethign to matter a second time, after the blackrider thing, in case he gets in such trouble a next time. So he will have two sentence extending reasons next time, ..i am not trying to get any "revenge", but can't ignore repetead issues just becase i forgot about them and nobody reminded me of it. PS @samon its not about the crits not being suitable compensation for the work, i would have given him MANY MANY times more valuable stuff including the crits, its about trust and trying to "play smart" and be sneaky, instead of being honest and responsible when using admin level tools. You can't behave like a player that follows his petty interests when you are trusted with such things.

Also, tomorow the voting ends. What i wrote above is the last thing i have to say about this case. I have absolutely no clue what the poll stats are and i don't wish to know before i end it. The votes will be counted for all "punish" options and for all "forgive" options to determine what sort of verdict it is, then based on their number, what sort of punishment or "not guilty" behaviour will be applied. Because i made this trial public instead of just pushing the purge button myself when i was there, i forced myself to respect whatever decision will be voted. I will not hold personal grudges but i will remember this incident for future potentially similar situations. In other words, you wont be able to say an other time that it was a "missunderstanding" and hope to get away with it just because you are pretty. If the vote sais punish, i won't touch/use any of the research/work you did, dont worry about that. Also if the vote sais no punishment, i will anyway not communicate with you a period of time, otherwise i fear i will find it too difficult not to be biased..

i stumbled upon THIS a second ago, i totally forgot about this other incident, and that i said there i won't jail him then but give a warning and extention to jail next time he steps wrong. This changes the situation a bit.

imagine the things you could have compained about if you had any kind of argue with me before this incident..... But we never interacted before and when we did, i treated you fair because you did ok. So you really can't blame me of being biased in that sense. Despite the complains about you being in certain very bad ways (that i cant name without offending you), i gave you a chance to prove different. To get such a chance, ofc i had to push you harder. By chance i don't mean you being excused, but you given an opportunity to prove those that are against you that they are wrong. I pick you AND FANG, i didnt forget about him, and coated this test in such way that it will not disclose that it was based on accusations, just because i cared about not harming you in any way at all, untill the test was complete. That means i technically assumed you are not "guilty" of any accusations. Normally i wouldn't care, but you got in the spotlight with your "role", and became a public figure, a public figure with complains against him...so yes you have to answer to me if i wish to TEST you. I did such tests countless times, and if the person passed my test, he got even nicely rewarded not just spared. I have my own agenda when testing md people and my own top list of "sins" and "qualities" that i punish or reward, i am not a normal judge but never intend to be one, i intend to be correct in the way i see its healthy for md, and in general that coincides with having a fair, loyal, honest and creative character. It would be a lot more useful for you and actually anyone here, to think why i would randomly start an attack on a person that was communicating great with me a day before and that was so important to help me continue development. I am insane? Or stupid? Or why would i ruin that...hm?

Umm..biased? Instead of appreciating how fair i was in presenting the problem you tell me i am biased? I should remind you that i am by definition biased since this is a case i have against him. I was one click away from punishing him, but i thought to give him an other chance...but its me against him with you as the judge... I never pretended to be impartial on this one, quite the contrary!!!!

alrigh...nobody, i reset the data then next question, did anyone consume cards , lots of them, in a combiner?

i can't wait to see what the outcome of the voting will be, out of pure curiosity. As already discussed in private this affected our work together to some degree (depending on votes), but it woke me up to be more careful with what i assume people do based on what i say. Depending on much this affected our cooperation will back off or continue with the push on you and your role, i don't want a chain reaction. If it goes bad, i will leave some time before looking what else you are doing. If we continue the research at some point, the success of the research will be responsible of you deserving your role or not. I am making this note here, publicly, to make sure its mentioned somewhere but also so that you don't feel cornered

oh so it was about profit afterall Aethon? whats this a joke? you get a horseman and sell the other one, whats the difference, you still keep one. Its interesting that i don't see profit in selling, but in keeping, but its interesting to see how you get entagled in your own "defence"

I will wait with the vote on this till to the end of this...because i dont want to see the voting before and be influenced, also i want my vote even if it will be one of many, to be well placed. I am open to change my mind for that single vote i will have here this time. THE VOTING WILL DECIDE - PLEASE VOTE AFTER JUDGING WELL. IF YOU COMMENT BUT DONT VOTE, YOUR COMMENT ITS USELESS

As i discussed with you while extensively explaining you my reasons , it is as if you get caught stealing in a shop, but then clain you didnt had time to pay for them but it was your intention to do so. You should have made me a list of things you wished, OR doublecheck as you said yourself, but DOUBLE CHECKING is not done much later, you CHECK BEFORE you do those things, in this case you should have double check before getting the crits not sometime at a later time.

I need to repeat that his research did not involve creatures ...his research and the only reason i provided the tools , was about RESOURCES only crewatures involced with his research where the crits built buy resources, the molima right now

This is weird, but i am opening a trial myself about a decision i am about to take also myself, against Aethon. I feel i might be way to stressed and angry right now, and because aethon took the time to reply actively to all acuses i brought him, i felt its needed he gets a chance for a public opinion that might save him or punish him. I will try to keep it short. I need a vote to undestand how YOU all and each see this situation, also because its not the first time i am either to lenient or to harsh to abuses...so...here is your occasion to be the jury. FIRST I work with Aethon on the crit combiner, i am happy about his overall progress with the resources documentation, we both put a lot of effort in doing that...so at some point i give him two powerful items to help him conduct his task better. I give him Death Patrol pass papers, offering him immunity from being killed in Necrovion, and Fruitjuice, offering him basically UNLIMITED action points. I tell him not to abuse those. what happens next will be divided in two, what he sias and what i say, both true MY VERSION i tell him not to abuse the ap item, but if he wants something he sees around he can make a list. My intention was to reward him things he wanted while being able to view all necrovions treasures. I told him clearly that the items are for doing his research project, for nothign else. Its kind of obvious anyway. INSTEAD, first thing he does is he goes the next day or so, and grabs the rare crits everybody wants in necrovion, and explores the secret tunnel that is publicly closed so it had absolutely no connection with his resource research. He appologised about it, blaming it on a missunderstanding or betterw aid on the fact that it reads from the chat that i meant something different. My argument is that its kind of damn obvious that if you get an admin tool of such power you dont make consuses or interpret words, you are supposed to kind of know by common sense what is abuse and what not....or...not? HIS VERSION He understands he can grab whatever he wants but keep a list of all that for later. He sais he was in the crits recruiting place before, on his own, anyway. Also, sais he didnt took the crits to sell them so its not about abuse. A fragment of chat between us is controversial, he presents it in his defence so i will post it here as well. He claims i said "excelent" to the last part about grabbing, i claim i said "excelent" to the row above with "doublecheck if uncertain" part. He blames it on the missunderstnading and appologised about it. LOG CONCLUSIONS state your opinion and if he is punishable, and in what way if he is. Lets see if there is a general opinion. Is he punishable or not, WHAT punishment for this or what to do if anything. This will create a precendent too. I am not makign this thread public because i dont know what i would do , but because i am concerned that what i will do will be unapprorpiate or unbalanced THE VOTING WILL DECIDE - PLEASE VOTE AFTER JUDGING WELL. IF YOU COMMENT BUT DONT VOTE, YOUR COMMENT ITS USELESS I will vote last, i don't wish to see the results while i read your comments, because except this particular incident, this "trial" will help me understand what to do on my own in future situations. WIll i give priority to the wording or to my intentions that might be confusing? You vote this case well and wise, IT IS NOT A POPULARITY CONTEST

this is about this announcement The first question is, did anyone, in the last few days, lose about 792 memory stones? come forward, i need to know in what process where the stones consumed Thanks

I sense a bit of a tension here, unwanted tension, as all of us are trying to make things work, not trying to get ahead of the others. but in order to clarify some things: Aethon, i assigned you to map the use of resources, how they can be obtained and with info that can help me estimate their value=effort to obtain. Lets stick to that for now, no need to deal with bugs please. -->> Bugs and issues with combiners should be sent both to me and chew BY EMAIL, providing location coord of the combiner, your id, along with any information that might help tracking the bug or even reproducing it. <<----

Here is the current complete list: coord appvars app 1_-2x4_3 itemgroup=MD;maxgrab=2 itemdispatch 1_-4x-1_2 itemgroup=Golemus_lab;maxgrab=2 itemdispatch 1_-5x0_2 itemgroup=Golemus;maxgrab=3 itemdispatch 1_-5x4_2 itemgroup=Loreroot;maxgrab=1 itemdispatch 1_3x0_2 itemgroup=Necrovion;maxgrab=1 itemdispatch 1_4x2_1 itemgroup=Marindbell_pow;maxgrab=1 itemdispatch 1_4x4_2 itemgroup=Marindbell;maxgrab=1 itemdispatch 4_1x2_11 itemgroup=MDA_toilet;maxgrab=1 itemdispatch 7_kitchen_1 itemgroup=Tribunal_kitchen;maxgrab=1 itemdispatch 7_localpub_2 itemgroup=Tribunal_localpub;maxgrab=2 itemdispatch 7_teamarket_1 itemgroup=Tribunal_teamarket;maxgrab=2 itemdispatch Mallos, when ready, email me playername, player id and the coord and "itemgroup" of the shared item dispatcher. I will first assign the roles then check the entires, or i will check your entries only if there is a dispute for same place. I need this topic for reference, but i need the roles assigned faster than i can review everything. Like i said this will be a blind chance to whoever wants the role, and for a month or more that person will get the chance to show they can do it. After an initial trial period i will decide if the initial choice was good or not and i will listen to public complains in case there will be any about one or the other Guardian. I need this tool up and running asap because i need to work on other things related to it soon mallons, your effort will be rewarded, just keep things organzied exactly as i asked and make my life easier. Thanks ps. now i continue being focused on an other marathon type of feature, crazy thing i am working on right now

yes you are allowed to argue about someones application for a guardian role as long as there is someone else, maybe yourself, that can replace him and offers for the job. If there is no other option i will select that single applicant and give him a chance to prove he deserves the role, so no you can't stop someone from being guardian of a place unless you "vote" for someone else, update: if someone applies for two places i will not select him for any of them, Mallos, THANK YOU you are saving me valuable time, please keep the list updated and let me know asap when all the places are filled, i will provide shortly (as opposed of "soon") a list of all places. Even if not all will have someone to offer to guard them, i will still start to create guardians soon. Please notify me (if you can by email is great), when you consider i should start assigning these roles.

What...tutorial .

Very kind and fair Thank you

not actively bidding, but i am offering 10 Gc for both aniv aramors (5each?) ,*what i mean is that someone offers even 1 silver more i will not compete, thats my fixed offer.

i an't say yes or no to any of these, its yes to all but not sure if this is the way they will be used. I used wiiya for reanimation, its about identity, however syntropic dust as you can see in my notes (this post is just about personal notes i made public), syntropic dust was supposed to be used somehow for same reason you mentioned. but i can't decide yet the exact way the item will be used, i tend to believe it will be used as a consumable tool....anyway it could be used in any way, for example the one i have now to create grasans is used as a permanent tool (for testing). One thing i must be careful of, is creature spawning...it might affect rarity and value. But i intend to use such things for NEW crits, or at least remove recruiting places for some of the existing. Aramors are on top of the list i think....they should be create-able crits, not recruitable its a long talk, i will see what happens next as i work on stuff, i am not good with plnannign ahead, ruins my enthusiasm

Makes perfect sense samon, you get a reward for this. nice

makse sense, but how is wiiya used and obtained now?