Muratus del Mur

- As a king, threatening you will quit, regardless of reason, means you don't see your role for how important it is.
[color="#FF0000"]It will cost you one penalty point.[/color]

- You think kings/yourself are just a WP dispenser and nothing more?
[color="#FF0000"]You are incompetent. Kings should use their limited resources in a creative but also [b]proactive way[/b], meaning sponsorships, "kingly" rewarded activities, initiative to DO things, etc, not just wait for others to ask you for the wp codes.[/color]

- You feel like you are waiting for "Buttons" so you can do "Stuff"?
[color="#FF0000"]Reality update, use what you have, convert authority into actions because you can do that. Ofc you can keep asking them, thats no trouble, but if you go all frustrated that you didnt receive them, when there are ways around them..not good.[/color]

- Annoyed with your citizens?
[color="#FF0000"]means they are annoyed with you too. You can fix that, but as you "fix" that keep in mind that a one citizen land won't be really a land in the end[/color]

- A global..better said cubical problem bothers you, want to change concepts in MD?
[color="#FF0000"]Highly possible, but I wont change one thing to affect all lands just when one kings asks it. If all kings/queens discuss it and agree something needs to be done, then i will consider it[/color]


[b]
[ joke removed, also the replies to it ][/b]

It seems my sense of humor when i am angry sounds like mockery..maybe it was..maybe it also was in the hope to be so in a constructive way. Either case, removed.

*distored image in the mirror*
Murs answer
A seal was made a seal has now been broken. Account Dmik King (age 702!) was sacrificed in return of Granos life. A deal is a deal, Granos has been released. I remind you that the lock on the account was not a punishment for something.


*Mur looking at a pitch black mirror, reflecting nothing*
Murs answer
..nothing..literally..nothing..i wonder if i can grab it


*Mur standing with the back to the mirror, not seeing what it reflects*
Murs answer
Are you who you once were? am I who I once were? Time makes scars, scars make character ..i will leave now, who walks behind me in that mirror i shall never see.




(..confused? then then you might respect the fact that these words are just for those that understand them)

We are a society of wanderers out to save the scenes from becoming forgotten over time, we will go out and explore in groups around the realm as to keep them from becoming forgotten. In particular, I was hoping to roam through the tribunals more often with anyone interested as to make it more accessible for all the new ones and old ones to come and see.
Benefits of roaming in groups:
Company
Snuggling Goodness
Greater Viscosity Decrease
It is better for the environment, don't ask how.
Help transport randomers during weekly visits.

Current People planning to join for weekend trip:
Lone Wolf
AmberRune



Currently looking for members to join and help out.

I want to advertise MD in a "themed" style. Here is the new series of banners , let me know how you like them
The reasons behind why they are so i don't want to explain here and now..i know they are not really commercial and such but i hope they keep md spirit.
The advertising will be paid per click, so the purpose of the banners is not to get most clicks but to get most interested/ing players to click them, eliminating certain others.



[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/necro_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/marind_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/loreroot_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/golemus_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]

[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_v2_280x540.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_280x540.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_160x600.jpg[/img]


(ps. yeah there are more with necrovion, pretend you didn't notice that)

I want to advertise MD in a "themed" style. Here is the new series of banners , let me know how you like them
The reasons behind why they are so i don't want to explain here and now..i know they are not really commercial and such but i hope they keep md spirit.
The advertising will be paid per click, so the purpose of the banners is not to get most clicks but to get most interested/ing players to click them, eliminating certain others.



[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/necro_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/marind_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/loreroot_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/golemus_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]

[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_v2_280x540.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_280x540.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_160x600.jpg[/img]


(ps. yeah there are more with necrovion, pretend you didn't notice that)

I want to advertise MD in a "themed" style. Here is the new series of banners , let me know how you like them
The reasons behind why they are so i don't want to explain here and now..i know they are not really commercial and such but i hope they keep md spirit.
The advertising will be paid per click, so the purpose of the banners is not to get most clicks but to get most interested/ing players to click them, eliminating certain others.



[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/necro_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/marind_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/loreroot_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/golemus_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]

[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_v2_280x540.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_280x540.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_160x600.jpg[/img]


(ps. yeah there are more with necrovion, pretend you didn't notice that)

I want to advertise MD in a "themed" style. Here is the new series of banners , let me know how you like them
The reasons behind why they are so i don't want to explain here and now..i know they are not really commercial and such but i hope they keep md spirit.
The advertising will be paid per click, so the purpose of the banners is not to get most clicks but to get most interested/ing players to click them, eliminating certain others.



[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/necro_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/marind_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/loreroot_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/golemus_y6_160x600.jpg[/img]

[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_v2_280x540.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_280x540.jpg[/img]
[img]http://magicduel.com/img/banners/innernecro_160x600.jpg[/img]


(ps. yeah there are more with necrovion, pretend you didn't notice that)

*distored image in the mirror*
Murs answer
A seal was made a seal has now been broken. Account Dmik King (age 702!) was sacrificed in return of Granos life. A deal is a deal, Granos has been released. I remind you that the lock on the account was not a punishment for something.


*Mur looking at a pitch black mirror, reflecting nothing*
Murs answer
..nothing..literally..nothing..i wonder if i can grab it


*Mur standing with the back to the mirror, not seeing what it reflects*
Murs answer
Are you who you once were? am I who I once were? Time makes scars, scars make character ..i will leave now, who walks behind me in that mirror i shall never see.




(..confused? then then you might respect the fact that these words are just for those that understand them)

*distored image in the mirror*
Murs answer
A seal was made a seal has now been broken. Account Dmik King (age 702!) was sacrificed in return of Granos life. A deal is a deal, Granos has been released. I remind you that the lock on the account was not a punishment for something.


*Mur looking at a pitch black mirror, reflecting nothing*
Murs answer
..nothing..literally..nothing..i wonder if i can grab it


*Mur standing with the back to the mirror, not seeing what it reflects*
Murs answer
Are you who you once were? am I who I once were? Time makes scars, scars make character ..i will leave now, who walks behind me in that mirror i shall never see.




(..confused? then then you might respect the fact that these words are just for those that understand them)

Something important to note is that while yes, you can get to MP5 in no time at all, you do that because of players that have already spent months - or even years - to get there.

Newer players will always get further at a faster rate because they have the groundwork done by the previous players. It this same principle by which humans have been able to develop so much.

"If I have seen further it is only by standing on the shoulders of giants" - Isaac Newton

i can go to mp1 in under one minute..... still has nothing to do with a show of force but more with the "extreme md" topic. Even if you would write a show of force topic in the sense i started it, i would probably release a decree and banosh the attempt by "law"..or the forum would give a random error just when saving that title

funny fact, when i saw the title today i was "omg i need to go to a comp and read it, there is a new episode up"... speaking of insanity, i just forgot i was the one writing those and i was curious myself what could be in episode 5 ... :|

finally I have proof! God exists, he is Romanian, a bit bald, a little fat, about 1,60m tall and he was spotted about an hour ago in a train somewhere west while he was fighting satan himself. 

If you didnt notice the funny part of this yet, repeat after me .."ha", "ha ha".

Now what is this all about? I am traveling randomly across the country, the train is a beautiful place to rest your mind. Traveling without a purpose or destination is my ideal state of mind . I usualy end up in strange places or meet weird people when i do that.

Once I met a lady that she insisted she was saint and that she was speaking with the vergin mary on a daily basis, how awesome is that. I think she had her phone number too. Oh and I forgot to mention she was a nun.. dressed in a green nun outfit. I wonder where she got a green outfit. But the truth is, i have to admit, she  was one of the most "glowing" person I ever saw, too bad her brain was so messed up. (If you don't understand what i mean by glowing, no problem )

Today, I met God himself, more or less ..he was quite uncertain about his name, sometimes refered to himself as Savaot (look for Sabaoth on google, very interesting), but sometimes as some name with merf/mafab something i couldn't understand. The guy, that was quite human and badly mentally deranged, in case you didn't realised yet, was speaking with his imaginary enemy, quite agressively. I always wished to have a chance to see what is inside the mind of such a person, so, i made an experiment. I treated him as decent as possible without moking him or making bad jokes. Even if now i present it as a funny experience, it is a very sad thing. It goes even more sad  when you go deeper down the path and see the torment in his mind. It is nothing to laugh about the person, nothing to judge, his intentions were good, he just wanted to save the universe he created from an evil dragon/demon ("balaur" in romanian is like a multi headed dragon). I promised him to keep the demons name secret and I intend to do so even if its just about an imaginary figure in a madmans head it is still my word. The few hours we stood in the same train compartment I had the unique opportunity to listen to his story in full, disvuss with him as if he was a sane, fully function man, ignoring for the moment the strangeness of his tale and the obvious mental insanity.

I told him directly that his behaviour isn't quite standard, to avoid worse words, but i am seriously interested to listen to what he has to say. I was shocked of his reply. He told me to wait a few minutes so he can calm down, so in a few minutes he continued...

I will use his exact wording (transled as best as i could), because some things are quite interesting. 

He claims the world we live in was just one in a million billions worlds he (sabaot) created to destroy this ~balaur" he fights. Each world drags the 'balaur' down from his true form and forces him to be represented in the material world so he can destroy him. The final trap is to cath him between two flat universes. FLAT universes.... i considered it interesting so I asked him how else can the universe be if not flat (played stupid). He answered it is made of "four", we see "three". Since I am currently writing about 2-4-8 fold universe model you might think I altered what this guy said to fit my theories, not at all. The flat universe, he said, is made of ~2~ but can exist only 2 and 2, paired. When I heared numbers and such , my brain immediately started all its engines and i was prepared to go wild talking about the subject...but I almost forgot he was just mad and really couldn't detail much of what he said.  I asked him if he is figthing this enemy for a long time, and he told me it was "now", as if it was yesterday ..but mentioned year 1989. In that year the revolution against communism in Romania started in that area (Timisoara) so probably some tragic event marked him back then...but I am not his shrink, so I didn't asked about details of what might have happend in his personal life. He was convinced anyway that he saved human kind back then, preventing this demon to unite with his forms in the other universes. 

So..in case you lost track of who did what..here is a summary: This guy, aka God on a train, diluted this ~pure evil non-being" as he called it, over a million billion worlds to make it less powerfull so it can be destroyed. He tried ~static sunrais~ (cool concept for a fantasy movie, admit it) but it was uneffective, so now he plans to use two flat universes to trap him.

I must make a remark here, the way seals to trap demons were made, the two circles used to close a seal, has _VERY_ much to do with something that could be described as "two flat universes~, each circle being a symbol for a flat universe in 4 points. But back to his insanity, it gets more interesting.

The problem when talking to him is that I never understood why he was calling himself savaot , but moments later his other personality was cursing savaot , same name, for taking credit for the world the (the man) built. It was confusingand he was not very helpfull in explaining this blatant logic conflict... but nevermind, lets go on as it is  
I guess..only ~god~ can be as powerful as ~god~ so both him and his arch enemy woud have to be one and the same for his mind to work through his insanity barrier.

I asked him, wht would be so wrong to leave human kind to be destroyed by that demon. I always wanted to ask that to someone that wants to "save the world" ...WHAT FOR? 
He freaked out, ofc, but also gave me a very cool description of why the world should be saved. Honestly, it is the best reason i heared so far. He claims that this demon is incomplete, he would integrate in his own being all the humans he could, but they would be mixed together. One mans foot will go through an other man's eye and one thousand thirty three people , an infinite amount of times, will be merged together in this horrible way, with body parts missplaced all forming one giant monstrosity. This would harm his beautifull and infinite order and would make it impossible for him, savaot (THIS TIME THE GOOD CREATOR GOD, NOT THE BAD DEMON) to complete his work. Interesting...the reason to save man kind is to prevent chaos. I was thinking we bring chaos ..heh.

The way he mentioned the number 1033, i wrote in letters because he repeated it several times each time a little different. It might be 1000 and then 33, or 1033..idk..i know 33 was clear. This is without doubdt connected to the notion of ~Legions~ used to described the size/power of a demon, but he presented it in such an original way. 

I agreed to him. having humans all glued up in one big monstruosity is reason enough for me to save them. Its not death that you save them from , so makes sense...for now.

Interesting, i tried to see if he understands what i mean..and told him that humans are already glued up together in cities, we live in groups, we get "merged" with the identity of people around us..and so on. He said that is nothing compared to this..because in a city there are just a few people, but this "balaur" will glue "1000 33" an infinite number of times both in past and in future". Now when he dded this little remark..both in past and in future...the infinite number started to make more sense.

Now the interesting part is over and the sad part of this mans reality comes up. He told me he is immortal. i told him i believe he might be immortal, but his body is not and he should make well to remember that. I get out of the train while he took it very personal and started to scream nothing can destroy him, that he is infinit and immortal, and he was luky the window of the train was locked or he could have taken his only chance to prove he is not that immortal afterall.

I hope he will have rest one day, in his mind most of all. He was obviously exhausted, claimed he didnt slept for days. He actually took a nap of about 15min in the middle of the discussion then he continued right where he stopped...quite creepy.

Thats about it.
Not so funny afterall, makes me think a lot

i can go to mp1 in under one minute..... still has nothing to do with a show of force but more with the "extreme md" topic. Even if you would write a show of force topic in the sense i started it, i would probably release a decree and banosh the attempt by "law"..or the forum would give a random error just when saving that title

funny fact, when i saw the title today i was "omg i need to go to a comp and read it, there is a new episode up"... speaking of insanity, i just forgot i was the one writing those and i was curious myself what could be in episode 5 ... :|

finally I have proof! God exists, he is Romanian, a bit bald, a little fat, about 1,60m tall and he was spotted about an hour ago in a train somewhere west while he was fighting satan himself. 

If you didnt notice the funny part of this yet, repeat after me .."ha", "ha ha".

Now what is this all about? I am traveling randomly across the country, the train is a beautiful place to rest your mind. Traveling without a purpose or destination is my ideal state of mind . I usualy end up in strange places or meet weird people when i do that.

Once I met a lady that she insisted she was saint and that she was speaking with the vergin mary on a daily basis, how awesome is that. I think she had her phone number too. Oh and I forgot to mention she was a nun.. dressed in a green nun outfit. I wonder where she got a green outfit. But the truth is, i have to admit, she  was one of the most "glowing" person I ever saw, too bad her brain was so messed up. (If you don't understand what i mean by glowing, no problem )

Today, I met God himself, more or less ..he was quite uncertain about his name, sometimes refered to himself as Savaot (look for Sabaoth on google, very interesting), but sometimes as some name with merf/mafab something i couldn't understand. The guy, that was quite human and badly mentally deranged, in case you didn't realised yet, was speaking with his imaginary enemy, quite agressively. I always wished to have a chance to see what is inside the mind of such a person, so, i made an experiment. I treated him as decent as possible without moking him or making bad jokes. Even if now i present it as a funny experience, it is a very sad thing. It goes even more sad  when you go deeper down the path and see the torment in his mind. It is nothing to laugh about the person, nothing to judge, his intentions were good, he just wanted to save the universe he created from an evil dragon/demon ("balaur" in romanian is like a multi headed dragon). I promised him to keep the demons name secret and I intend to do so even if its just about an imaginary figure in a madmans head it is still my word. The few hours we stood in the same train compartment I had the unique opportunity to listen to his story in full, disvuss with him as if he was a sane, fully function man, ignoring for the moment the strangeness of his tale and the obvious mental insanity.

I told him directly that his behaviour isn't quite standard, to avoid worse words, but i am seriously interested to listen to what he has to say. I was shocked of his reply. He told me to wait a few minutes so he can calm down, so in a few minutes he continued...

I will use his exact wording (transled as best as i could), because some things are quite interesting. 

He claims the world we live in was just one in a million billions worlds he (sabaot) created to destroy this ~balaur" he fights. Each world drags the 'balaur' down from his true form and forces him to be represented in the material world so he can destroy him. The final trap is to cath him between two flat universes. FLAT universes.... i considered it interesting so I asked him how else can the universe be if not flat (played stupid). He answered it is made of "four", we see "three". Since I am currently writing about 2-4-8 fold universe model you might think I altered what this guy said to fit my theories, not at all. The flat universe, he said, is made of ~2~ but can exist only 2 and 2, paired. When I heared numbers and such , my brain immediately started all its engines and i was prepared to go wild talking about the subject...but I almost forgot he was just mad and really couldn't detail much of what he said.  I asked him if he is figthing this enemy for a long time, and he told me it was "now", as if it was yesterday ..but mentioned year 1989. In that year the revolution against communism in Romania started in that area (Timisoara) so probably some tragic event marked him back then...but I am not his shrink, so I didn't asked about details of what might have happend in his personal life. He was convinced anyway that he saved human kind back then, preventing this demon to unite with his forms in the other universes. 

So..in case you lost track of who did what..here is a summary: This guy, aka God on a train, diluted this ~pure evil non-being" as he called it, over a million billion worlds to make it less powerfull so it can be destroyed. He tried ~static sunrais~ (cool concept for a fantasy movie, admit it) but it was uneffective, so now he plans to use two flat universes to trap him.

I must make a remark here, the way seals to trap demons were made, the two circles used to close a seal, has _VERY_ much to do with something that could be described as "two flat universes~, each circle being a symbol for a flat universe in 4 points. But back to his insanity, it gets more interesting.

The problem when talking to him is that I never understood why he was calling himself savaot , but moments later his other personality was cursing savaot , same name, for taking credit for the world the (the man) built. It was confusingand he was not very helpfull in explaining this blatant logic conflict... but nevermind, lets go on as it is  
I guess..only ~god~ can be as powerful as ~god~ so both him and his arch enemy woud have to be one and the same for his mind to work through his insanity barrier.

I asked him, wht would be so wrong to leave human kind to be destroyed by that demon. I always wanted to ask that to someone that wants to "save the world" ...WHAT FOR? 
He freaked out, ofc, but also gave me a very cool description of why the world should be saved. Honestly, it is the best reason i heared so far. He claims that this demon is incomplete, he would integrate in his own being all the humans he could, but they would be mixed together. One mans foot will go through an other man's eye and one thousand thirty three people , an infinite amount of times, will be merged together in this horrible way, with body parts missplaced all forming one giant monstrosity. This would harm his beautifull and infinite order and would make it impossible for him, savaot (THIS TIME THE GOOD CREATOR GOD, NOT THE BAD DEMON) to complete his work. Interesting...the reason to save man kind is to prevent chaos. I was thinking we bring chaos ..heh.

The way he mentioned the number 1033, i wrote in letters because he repeated it several times each time a little different. It might be 1000 and then 33, or 1033..idk..i know 33 was clear. This is without doubdt connected to the notion of ~Legions~ used to described the size/power of a demon, but he presented it in such an original way. 

I agreed to him. having humans all glued up in one big monstruosity is reason enough for me to save them. Its not death that you save them from , so makes sense...for now.

Interesting, i tried to see if he understands what i mean..and told him that humans are already glued up together in cities, we live in groups, we get "merged" with the identity of people around us..and so on. He said that is nothing compared to this..because in a city there are just a few people, but this "balaur" will glue "1000 33" an infinite number of times both in past and in future". Now when he dded this little remark..both in past and in future...the infinite number started to make more sense.

Now the interesting part is over and the sad part of this mans reality comes up. He told me he is immortal. i told him i believe he might be immortal, but his body is not and he should make well to remember that. I get out of the train while he took it very personal and started to scream nothing can destroy him, that he is infinit and immortal, and he was luky the window of the train was locked or he could have taken his only chance to prove he is not that immortal afterall.

I hope he will have rest one day, in his mind most of all. He was obviously exhausted, claimed he didnt slept for days. He actually took a nap of about 15min in the middle of the discussion then he continued right where he stopped...quite creepy.

Thats about it.
Not so funny afterall, makes me think a lot

finally I have proof! God exists, he is Romanian, a bit bald, a little fat, about 1,60m tall and he was spotted about an hour ago in a train somewhere west while he was fighting satan himself. 

If you didnt notice the funny part of this yet, repeat after me .."ha", "ha ha".

Now what is this all about? I am traveling randomly across the country, the train is a beautiful place to rest your mind. Traveling without a purpose or destination is my ideal state of mind . I usualy end up in strange places or meet weird people when i do that.

Once I met a lady that she insisted she was saint and that she was speaking with the vergin mary on a daily basis, how awesome is that. I think she had her phone number too. Oh and I forgot to mention she was a nun.. dressed in a green nun outfit. I wonder where she got a green outfit. But the truth is, i have to admit, she  was one of the most "glowing" person I ever saw, too bad her brain was so messed up. (If you don't understand what i mean by glowing, no problem )

Today, I met God himself, more or less ..he was quite uncertain about his name, sometimes refered to himself as Savaot (look for Sabaoth on google, very interesting), but sometimes as some name with merf/mafab something i couldn't understand. The guy, that was quite human and badly mentally deranged, in case you didn't realised yet, was speaking with his imaginary enemy, quite agressively. I always wished to have a chance to see what is inside the mind of such a person, so, i made an experiment. I treated him as decent as possible without moking him or making bad jokes. Even if now i present it as a funny experience, it is a very sad thing. It goes even more sad  when you go deeper down the path and see the torment in his mind. It is nothing to laugh about the person, nothing to judge, his intentions were good, he just wanted to save the universe he created from an evil dragon/demon ("balaur" in romanian is like a multi headed dragon). I promised him to keep the demons name secret and I intend to do so even if its just about an imaginary figure in a madmans head it is still my word. The few hours we stood in the same train compartment I had the unique opportunity to listen to his story in full, disvuss with him as if he was a sane, fully function man, ignoring for the moment the strangeness of his tale and the obvious mental insanity.

I told him directly that his behaviour isn't quite standard, to avoid worse words, but i am seriously interested to listen to what he has to say. I was shocked of his reply. He told me to wait a few minutes so he can calm down, so in a few minutes he continued...

I will use his exact wording (transled as best as i could), because some things are quite interesting. 

He claims the world we live in was just one in a million billions worlds he (sabaot) created to destroy this ~balaur" he fights. Each world drags the 'balaur' down from his true form and forces him to be represented in the material world so he can destroy him. The final trap is to cath him between two flat universes. FLAT universes.... i considered it interesting so I asked him how else can the universe be if not flat (played stupid). He answered it is made of "four", we see "three". Since I am currently writing about 2-4-8 fold universe model you might think I altered what this guy said to fit my theories, not at all. The flat universe, he said, is made of ~2~ but can exist only 2 and 2, paired. When I heared numbers and such , my brain immediately started all its engines and i was prepared to go wild talking about the subject...but I almost forgot he was just mad and really couldn't detail much of what he said.  I asked him if he is figthing this enemy for a long time, and he told me it was "now", as if it was yesterday ..but mentioned year 1989. In that year the revolution against communism in Romania started in that area (Timisoara) so probably some tragic event marked him back then...but I am not his shrink, so I didn't asked about details of what might have happend in his personal life. He was convinced anyway that he saved human kind back then, preventing this demon to unite with his forms in the other universes. 

So..in case you lost track of who did what..here is a summary: This guy, aka God on a train, diluted this ~pure evil non-being" as he called it, over a million billion worlds to make it less powerfull so it can be destroyed. He tried ~static sunrais~ (cool concept for a fantasy movie, admit it) but it was uneffective, so now he plans to use two flat universes to trap him.

I must make a remark here, the way seals to trap demons were made, the two circles used to close a seal, has _VERY_ much to do with something that could be described as "two flat universes~, each circle being a symbol for a flat universe in 4 points. But back to his insanity, it gets more interesting.

The problem when talking to him is that I never understood why he was calling himself savaot , but moments later his other personality was cursing savaot , same name, for taking credit for the world the (the man) built. It was confusingand he was not very helpfull in explaining this blatant logic conflict... but nevermind, lets go on as it is  
I guess..only ~god~ can be as powerful as ~god~ so both him and his arch enemy woud have to be one and the same for his mind to work through his insanity barrier.

I asked him, wht would be so wrong to leave human kind to be destroyed by that demon. I always wanted to ask that to someone that wants to "save the world" ...WHAT FOR? 
He freaked out, ofc, but also gave me a very cool description of why the world should be saved. Honestly, it is the best reason i heared so far. He claims that this demon is incomplete, he would integrate in his own being all the humans he could, but they would be mixed together. One mans foot will go through an other man's eye and one thousand thirty three people , an infinite amount of times, will be merged together in this horrible way, with body parts missplaced all forming one giant monstrosity. This would harm his beautifull and infinite order and would make it impossible for him, savaot (THIS TIME THE GOOD CREATOR GOD, NOT THE BAD DEMON) to complete his work. Interesting...the reason to save man kind is to prevent chaos. I was thinking we bring chaos ..heh.

The way he mentioned the number 1033, i wrote in letters because he repeated it several times each time a little different. It might be 1000 and then 33, or 1033..idk..i know 33 was clear. This is without doubdt connected to the notion of ~Legions~ used to described the size/power of a demon, but he presented it in such an original way. 

I agreed to him. having humans all glued up in one big monstruosity is reason enough for me to save them. Its not death that you save them from , so makes sense...for now.

Interesting, i tried to see if he understands what i mean..and told him that humans are already glued up together in cities, we live in groups, we get "merged" with the identity of people around us..and so on. He said that is nothing compared to this..because in a city there are just a few people, but this "balaur" will glue "1000 33" an infinite number of times both in past and in future". Now when he dded this little remark..both in past and in future...the infinite number started to make more sense.

Now the interesting part is over and the sad part of this mans reality comes up. He told me he is immortal. i told him i believe he might be immortal, but his body is not and he should make well to remember that. I get out of the train while he took it very personal and started to scream nothing can destroy him, that he is infinit and immortal, and he was luky the window of the train was locked or he could have taken his only chance to prove he is not that immortal afterall.

I hope he will have rest one day, in his mind most of all. He was obviously exhausted, claimed he didnt slept for days. He actually took a nap of about 15min in the middle of the discussion then he continued right where he stopped...quite creepy.

Thats about it.
Not so funny afterall, makes me think a lot

finally I have proof! God exists, he is Romanian, a bit bald, a little fat, about 1,60m tall and he was spotted about an hour ago in a train somewhere west while he was fighting satan himself. 

If you didnt notice the funny part of this yet, repeat after me .."ha", "ha ha".

Now what is this all about? I am traveling randomly across the country, the train is a beautiful place to rest your mind. Traveling without a purpose or destination is my ideal state of mind . I usualy end up in strange places or meet weird people when i do that.

Once I met a lady that she insisted she was saint and that she was speaking with the vergin mary on a daily basis, how awesome is that. I think she had her phone number too. Oh and I forgot to mention she was a nun.. dressed in a green nun outfit. I wonder where she got a green outfit. But the truth is, i have to admit, she  was one of the most "glowing" person I ever saw, too bad her brain was so messed up. (If you don't understand what i mean by glowing, no problem )

Today, I met God himself, more or less ..he was quite uncertain about his name, sometimes refered to himself as Savaot (look for Sabaoth on google, very interesting), but sometimes as some name with merf/mafab something i couldn't understand. The guy, that was quite human and badly mentally deranged, in case you didn't realised yet, was speaking with his imaginary enemy, quite agressively. I always wished to have a chance to see what is inside the mind of such a person, so, i made an experiment. I treated him as decent as possible without moking him or making bad jokes. Even if now i present it as a funny experience, it is a very sad thing. It goes even more sad  when you go deeper down the path and see the torment in his mind. It is nothing to laugh about the person, nothing to judge, his intentions were good, he just wanted to save the universe he created from an evil dragon/demon ("balaur" in romanian is like a multi headed dragon). I promised him to keep the demons name secret and I intend to do so even if its just about an imaginary figure in a madmans head it is still my word. The few hours we stood in the same train compartment I had the unique opportunity to listen to his story in full, disvuss with him as if he was a sane, fully function man, ignoring for the moment the strangeness of his tale and the obvious mental insanity.

I told him directly that his behaviour isn't quite standard, to avoid worse words, but i am seriously interested to listen to what he has to say. I was shocked of his reply. He told me to wait a few minutes so he can calm down, so in a few minutes he continued...

I will use his exact wording (transled as best as i could), because some things are quite interesting. 

He claims the world we live in was just one in a million billions worlds he (sabaot) created to destroy this ~balaur" he fights. Each world drags the 'balaur' down from his true form and forces him to be represented in the material world so he can destroy him. The final trap is to cath him between two flat universes. FLAT universes.... i considered it interesting so I asked him how else can the universe be if not flat (played stupid). He answered it is made of "four", we see "three". Since I am currently writing about 2-4-8 fold universe model you might think I altered what this guy said to fit my theories, not at all. The flat universe, he said, is made of ~2~ but can exist only 2 and 2, paired. When I heared numbers and such , my brain immediately started all its engines and i was prepared to go wild talking about the subject...but I almost forgot he was just mad and really couldn't detail much of what he said.  I asked him if he is figthing this enemy for a long time, and he told me it was "now", as if it was yesterday ..but mentioned year 1989. In that year the revolution against communism in Romania started in that area (Timisoara) so probably some tragic event marked him back then...but I am not his shrink, so I didn't asked about details of what might have happend in his personal life. He was convinced anyway that he saved human kind back then, preventing this demon to unite with his forms in the other universes. 

So..in case you lost track of who did what..here is a summary: This guy, aka God on a train, diluted this ~pure evil non-being" as he called it, over a million billion worlds to make it less powerfull so it can be destroyed. He tried ~static sunrais~ (cool concept for a fantasy movie, admit it) but it was uneffective, so now he plans to use two flat universes to trap him.

I must make a remark here, the way seals to trap demons were made, the two circles used to close a seal, has _VERY_ much to do with something that could be described as "two flat universes~, each circle being a symbol for a flat universe in 4 points. But back to his insanity, it gets more interesting.

The problem when talking to him is that I never understood why he was calling himself savaot , but moments later his other personality was cursing savaot , same name, for taking credit for the world the (the man) built. It was confusingand he was not very helpfull in explaining this blatant logic conflict... but nevermind, lets go on as it is  
I guess..only ~god~ can be as powerful as ~god~ so both him and his arch enemy woud have to be one and the same for his mind to work through his insanity barrier.

I asked him, wht would be so wrong to leave human kind to be destroyed by that demon. I always wanted to ask that to someone that wants to "save the world" ...WHAT FOR? 
He freaked out, ofc, but also gave me a very cool description of why the world should be saved. Honestly, it is the best reason i heared so far. He claims that this demon is incomplete, he would integrate in his own being all the humans he could, but they would be mixed together. One mans foot will go through an other man's eye and one thousand thirty three people , an infinite amount of times, will be merged together in this horrible way, with body parts missplaced all forming one giant monstrosity. This would harm his beautifull and infinite order and would make it impossible for him, savaot (THIS TIME THE GOOD CREATOR GOD, NOT THE BAD DEMON) to complete his work. Interesting...the reason to save man kind is to prevent chaos. I was thinking we bring chaos ..heh.

The way he mentioned the number 1033, i wrote in letters because he repeated it several times each time a little different. It might be 1000 and then 33, or 1033..idk..i know 33 was clear. This is without doubdt connected to the notion of ~Legions~ used to described the size/power of a demon, but he presented it in such an original way. 

I agreed to him. having humans all glued up in one big monstruosity is reason enough for me to save them. Its not death that you save them from , so makes sense...for now.

Interesting, i tried to see if he understands what i mean..and told him that humans are already glued up together in cities, we live in groups, we get "merged" with the identity of people around us..and so on. He said that is nothing compared to this..because in a city there are just a few people, but this "balaur" will glue "1000 33" an infinite number of times both in past and in future". Now when he dded this little remark..both in past and in future...the infinite number started to make more sense.

Now the interesting part is over and the sad part of this mans reality comes up. He told me he is immortal. i told him i believe he might be immortal, but his body is not and he should make well to remember that. I get out of the train while he took it very personal and started to scream nothing can destroy him, that he is infinit and immortal, and he was luky the window of the train was locked or he could have taken his only chance to prove he is not that immortal afterall.

I hope he will have rest one day, in his mind most of all. He was obviously exhausted, claimed he didnt slept for days. He actually took a nap of about 15min in the middle of the discussion then he continued right where he stopped...quite creepy.

Thats about it.
Not so funny afterall, makes me think a lot

i am sorry but its a very busy period for me and I will be away for about a week. Are you sure this can't be handled by council?

Thanks

Seen from outside its easy to think that there is a certain group of interest, ancient players that leave no chance to the new players and so on.
In the same way people expect to see "character classes" or wish to reset their account to start over and such, new players judge MD by what they think it is and by what they are used games or online communities are in general.

I have no intention to advertise it differently or keep noobs in silk and promise them things will be better. If they survive MD they learn something out of it. I keep it as my personal (_PERSONAL_) goal to be fair in a world in intentionally advertise as unfair. Fair does not mean confortable in any way. Fair means you take all factors into consideration and judge things without compromise. For me, some important factors are loyalty, respect earned among players, perseverance to guard personal concepts, ability to see when you are wrong and admit it, ability to see more than one factor when analyzing an issue. I consider those as well when judging things and when defining what is fair and what is not, so there is no way i treat everyone the same way. However i do give everyone the same initial chances and I even do that after they ruin it, again, and again, if i consider they changed.

Sharpwind, when you get born in the outer-world, as a living human being in a society, nobody tells you the entire set of existing laws, nobody treats you the same way among people that are much older than you or more experienced in a field of activity. You are not even born equally capable with everyone else. You need to earn that respect and reputation. You do that by fighting your way into an unfair world. I considered a good idea always, regardless if it was presented by a new or an old player. Many times new players don't consider several things that older players know better about so of course a suggestion is ridiculed or ignored at first (i never do that, its not too polite, but i do ignore uninformed opinions). The balance you are used to call balance, where abuse is abuse and needs to be punished , has nothing to do with the way i see md, where to discover an abuse is a merit if you help fix it, and a crime if you dont.

Complaining without being sure what you are complaining about is in my personal view a good enough reason to ignore what you are complaining about. Because enough people were concerned enough to reply to you about this topic (that as MB said was brought up several times already), makes me reply to it as well..for them..but don't worry, i am not much concerned of how you consider md in general. Your irony in the initial post makes me act the same, and yes, if you were older player, more involved in the community, in any way at all, i would feel more concerned about your remarks.

Seen from outside its easy to think that there is a certain group of interest, ancient players that leave no chance to the new players and so on.
In the same way people expect to see "character classes" or wish to reset their account to start over and such, new players judge MD by what they think it is and by what they are used games or online communities are in general.

I have no intention to advertise it differently or keep noobs in silk and promise them things will be better. If they survive MD they learn something out of it. I keep it as my personal (_PERSONAL_) goal to be fair in a world in intentionally advertise as unfair. Fair does not mean confortable in any way. Fair means you take all factors into consideration and judge things without compromise. For me, some important factors are loyalty, respect earned among players, perseverance to guard personal concepts, ability to see when you are wrong and admit it, ability to see more than one factor when analyzing an issue. I consider those as well when judging things and when defining what is fair and what is not, so there is no way i treat everyone the same way. However i do give everyone the same initial chances and I even do that after they ruin it, again, and again, if i consider they changed.

Sharpwind, when you get born in the outer-world, as a living human being in a society, nobody tells you the entire set of existing laws, nobody treats you the same way among people that are much older than you or more experienced in a field of activity. You are not even born equally capable with everyone else. You need to earn that respect and reputation. You do that by fighting your way into an unfair world. I considered a good idea always, regardless if it was presented by a new or an old player. Many times new players don't consider several things that older players know better about so of course a suggestion is ridiculed or ignored at first (i never do that, its not too polite, but i do ignore uninformed opinions). The balance you are used to call balance, where abuse is abuse and needs to be punished , has nothing to do with the way i see md, where to discover an abuse is a merit if you help fix it, and a crime if you dont.

Complaining without being sure what you are complaining about is in my personal view a good enough reason to ignore what you are complaining about. Because enough people were concerned enough to reply to you about this topic (that as MB said was brought up several times already), makes me reply to it as well..for them..but don't worry, i am not much concerned of how you consider md in general. Your irony in the initial post makes me act the same, and yes, if you were older player, more involved in the community, in any way at all, i would feel more concerned about your remarks.

Seen from outside its easy to think that there is a certain group of interest, ancient players that leave no chance to the new players and so on.
In the same way people expect to see "character classes" or wish to reset their account to start over and such, new players judge MD by what they think it is and by what they are used games or online communities are in general.

I have no intention to advertise it differently or keep noobs in silk and promise them things will be better. If they survive MD they learn something out of it. I keep it as my personal (_PERSONAL_) goal to be fair in a world in intentionally advertise as unfair. Fair does not mean confortable in any way. Fair means you take all factors into consideration and judge things without compromise. For me, some important factors are loyalty, respect earned among players, perseverance to guard personal concepts, ability to see when you are wrong and admit it, ability to see more than one factor when analyzing an issue. I consider those as well when judging things and when defining what is fair and what is not, so there is no way i treat everyone the same way. However i do give everyone the same initial chances and I even do that after they ruin it, again, and again, if i consider they changed.

Sharpwind, when you get born in the outer-world, as a living human being in a society, nobody tells you the entire set of existing laws, nobody treats you the same way among people that are much older than you or more experienced in a field of activity. You are not even born equally capable with everyone else. You need to earn that respect and reputation. You do that by fighting your way into an unfair world. I considered a good idea always, regardless if it was presented by a new or an old player. Many times new players don't consider several things that older players know better about so of course a suggestion is ridiculed or ignored at first (i never do that, its not too polite, but i do ignore uninformed opinions). The balance you are used to call balance, where abuse is abuse and needs to be punished , has nothing to do with the way i see md, where to discover an abuse is a merit if you help fix it, and a crime if you dont.

Complaining without being sure what you are complaining about is in my personal view a good enough reason to ignore what you are complaining about. Because enough people were concerned enough to reply to you about this topic (that as MB said was brought up several times already), makes me reply to it as well..for them..but don't worry, i am not much concerned of how you consider md in general. Your irony in the initial post makes me act the same, and yes, if you were older player, more involved in the community, in any way at all, i would feel more concerned about your remarks.

Seen from outside its easy to think that there is a certain group of interest, ancient players that leave no chance to the new players and so on.
In the same way people expect to see "character classes" or wish to reset their account to start over and such, new players judge MD by what they think it is and by what they are used games or online communities are in general.

I have no intention to advertise it differently or keep noobs in silk and promise them things will be better. If they survive MD they learn something out of it. I keep it as my personal (_PERSONAL_) goal to be fair in a world in intentionally advertise as unfair. Fair does not mean confortable in any way. Fair means you take all factors into consideration and judge things without compromise. For me, some important factors are loyalty, respect earned among players, perseverance to guard personal concepts, ability to see when you are wrong and admit it, ability to see more than one factor when analyzing an issue. I consider those as well when judging things and when defining what is fair and what is not, so there is no way i treat everyone the same way. However i do give everyone the same initial chances and I even do that after they ruin it, again, and again, if i consider they changed.

Sharpwind, when you get born in the outer-world, as a living human being in a society, nobody tells you the entire set of existing laws, nobody treats you the same way among people that are much older than you or more experienced in a field of activity. You are not even born equally capable with everyone else. You need to earn that respect and reputation. You do that by fighting your way into an unfair world. I considered a good idea always, regardless if it was presented by a new or an old player. Many times new players don't consider several things that older players know better about so of course a suggestion is ridiculed or ignored at first (i never do that, its not too polite, but i do ignore uninformed opinions). The balance you are used to call balance, where abuse is abuse and needs to be punished , has nothing to do with the way i see md, where to discover an abuse is a merit if you help fix it, and a crime if you dont.

Complaining without being sure what you are complaining about is in my personal view a good enough reason to ignore what you are complaining about. Because enough people were concerned enough to reply to you about this topic (that as MB said was brought up several times already), makes me reply to it as well..for them..but don't worry, i am not much concerned of how you consider md in general. Your irony in the initial post makes me act the same, and yes, if you were older player, more involved in the community, in any way at all, i would feel more concerned about your remarks.

Seen from outside its easy to think that there is a certain group of interest, ancient players that leave no chance to the new players and so on.
In the same way people expect to see "character classes" or wish to reset their account to start over and such, new players judge MD by what they think it is and by what they are used games or online communities are in general.

I have no intention to advertise it differently or keep noobs in silk and promise them things will be better. If they survive MD they learn something out of it. I keep it as my personal (_PERSONAL_) goal to be fair in a world in intentionally advertise as unfair. Fair does not mean confortable in any way. Fair means you take all factors into consideration and judge things without compromise. For me, some important factors are loyalty, respect earned among players, perseverance to guard personal concepts, ability to see when you are wrong and admit it, ability to see more than one factor when analyzing an issue. I consider those as well when judging things and when defining what is fair and what is not, so there is no way i treat everyone the same way. However i do give everyone the same initial chances and I even do that after they ruin it, again, and again, if i consider they changed.

Sharpwind, when you get born in the outer-world, as a living human being in a society, nobody tells you the entire set of existing laws, nobody treats you the same way among people that are much older than you or more experienced in a field of activity. You are not even born equally capable with everyone else. You need to earn that respect and reputation. You do that by fighting your way into an unfair world. I considered a good idea always, regardless if it was presented by a new or an old player. Many times new players don't consider several things that older players know better about so of course a suggestion is ridiculed or ignored at first (i never do that, its not too polite, but i do ignore uninformed opinions). The balance you are used to call balance, where abuse is abuse and needs to be punished , has nothing to do with the way i see md, where to discover an abuse is a merit if you help fix it, and a crime if you dont.

Complaining without being sure what you are complaining about is in my personal view a good enough reason to ignore what you are complaining about. Because enough people were concerned enough to reply to you about this topic (that as MB said was brought up several times already), makes me reply to it as well..for them..but don't worry, i am not much concerned of how you consider md in general. Your irony in the initial post makes me act the same, and yes, if you were older player, more involved in the community, in any way at all, i would feel more concerned about your remarks.

Mr. Bun Buns, you make my head hurt....

Edit: I would also like to point out, that people don't regularly get away with alt abuse, or bug abuse, or whatever abuse that's available to them.

MD is NOT fair, yes, that is correct-- HOWEVER... MD is also an equal opportunity for EVERYONE. The only reason why it is not fair, is because people deem it so because they did not get a shiny new badge, or a playful little toy item that they need for their role.

The only person whose way is the high way is Mur's. Clean cut and simple. That, and the LHOs, but that is dependent on them enforcing the rules, not anything else.

Would it be considered adding fuel to the fire, if I, in a very 'ironic' or 'negatively criticising' manner of speaking, were to say that this kind of topic has been brought up a couple of times before?

Or would that be some kind of meta-meta comment? (with this line clearly transcending the theoretical boundary of 2 meta's and into the triple metasphere? To boldly go where none has gone before?)

[quote name='TTLexceeded' timestamp='1307468069' post='85900']
I would like to see examples as well but I think you are exaggerating a bit. They dont have god powers, they do abide to the same rules you and I have to abide to. And they do get punished big time when they break the rules. The same way me and you will get punished.
[/quote]
I think you're reading the post wrong.

It is not the question whether people have or don't have godlike powers, it is whether they act like they have godlike powers and are the official elite. It's a bloody old debate that resurfaces all the time: MD is a 'special game' that is 'not for everybody to understand or even like'. Should we be proud? Should we be haughty? Should we be disrespectful to those who try to get the game but have spent only a day or only a month on trying to get it? Do we even understand the game?

It is not about the time it takes to become accepted as elite, if such a thing even should exist or be debated. As with all subjective things, it depends on the person in question and the people regarding a person whether they're considered elite. I for one have a distinctly low opinion of some people who in all likelihood are self proclaimed or publicly heralded elite.

It is not about new people posting the same old ideas... or even about telling them they're the same old ideas. It is about telling them nicely that, unfortunately, the idea has been shot down before and then explain why. Not just say 'you don't get it because you're a noob'. And no I don't claim everybody does that all the time. Some people do, which is more than would be ideal. I am also under the impression it is not a MD only thing. The word noob wasn't created here.