Eon

after a brief skim through this thread, i think the main issue with this Al segment comes from just how limiting it is for the whole realm, if it was just a small change in how the game plays for others then the impact might not have been so severe, however, its affecting gameplay for those not involved, and have no way to get involved.
i'm all for elements that affect the realm as they do bring life to the game in some aspects, but this current Al is doing the opposite, its locking down one of the main things that are keeping some of the players active here. a story should enhance the game, not limit it, provide discussion, not opposition.
that being said, why cant a compromise be made? even if it's just opening up one altar somewhere, even if it's just for a brief moment every so often, just to allow both things to exist. does it fit the "lore" of the quest? i dont know, but it would make the the state of the game easier to swallow for the people who want to participate in the aspect of the game that is now locked.
new players who come to the game may want to change out their creatures or play around with these features, and cannot do so beacuse of a situation they cant participate in, i feel like a temporary solution should be reached. i'm sure there exists some solution that allows both parties to participate in the areas of the game they want to, without treading on the feet of the other.

Sooooooooo? I fail to see your point as Majority of the MD kingships were handme downs with support from a certain percentage of citizens... you never seemed to have had any issues with those? Just this one because you want to claim kingship out of the blue? Also you fail to take into account the part 'certain population of citizens of the east do recognise him as king'. Jeez Pip. Make your claim stronger. If you want to fight for the Kingship, lay out a concrete plan, explain each and every citizen what you want to do with the land once you become the king, get their support and vote and Work your way politically. Sunfire is atleast trying. All you seem to be doing at the moment is create a propaganda as to why he should not be king where you should be talking about why YOU SHOULD BE king. What you have posted in the forum sounds like a bunch of BS and that would never give you my support. At the moment, all you sound like is a bunch of empty threats and empty claims, like a bag of lays. 10% chips. 90% Gas.

We discussed things and given GG's current "situation" we decided it'd be best that Miq stays for the time being. Syrian, and I'm sure others, are itching to become East citizens and finally feel that warm feeling you get when you are around family, something they've sorely lacked from every other organization they've ever been apart of. It's a real shame they've had to go this long just because you guys forgot to pass that item over to Sunfire. In time I'm sure they will find it in their hearts to forgive you guys.

As second in command of the East I've been actively trying to recruit people to join the land. After some discussion, Miq and Syrian have decided to leave their ill-managed lands/factions to join the East and finally bask in the rays of victory that can commonly be seen around Easterners during times of quests and events. It probably goes without saying that if I can recruit Miq and Syrian over, many more will follow. The one issue with this is that the East currently doesn't have one of those items that grants citizenship. Now after years of kindly requesting things be made more official in the East, I'm going to have to insist that Sunfire be given the kingship items immediately.
 
With much hate,
Eon

Do you teach them to eat & poop too ?
There is a wiki for them to read about it if they want to learn. There is a free market to buy if you want to use /own some. Or they can ask themselves if they need it.
If I don't know Chinese, do you think that it would be fair for me to I ask them all to change their writings to English so that I can understand ? No. I'll have to learn Chinese myself.
In other words ... let them work themselves, let them learn at their own pace, tell them only when asked. DON'T DUMP EVERYTHING ON THEM or they'll lose all interest in finding themselves about MD.

Snowmen's convention ( I was planning a Piss Piss feature but due to the amount of snowmen, I had to reconsider....and now I am coughing fairy dust...):
 

As second in command of the East I've been actively trying to recruit people to join the land. After some discussion, Miq and Syrian have decided to leave their ill-managed lands/factions to join the East and finally bask in the rays of victory that can commonly be seen around Easterners during times of quests and events. It probably goes without saying that if I can recruit Miq and Syrian over, many more will follow. The one issue with this is that the East currently doesn't have one of those items that grants citizenship. Now after years of kindly requesting things be made more official in the East, I'm going to have to insist that Sunfire be given the kingship items immediately.
 
With much hate,
Eon

As second in command of the East I've been actively trying to recruit people to join the land. After some discussion, Miq and Syrian have decided to leave their ill-managed lands/factions to join the East and finally bask in the rays of victory that can commonly be seen around Easterners during times of quests and events. It probably goes without saying that if I can recruit Miq and Syrian over, many more will follow. The one issue with this is that the East currently doesn't have one of those items that grants citizenship. Now after years of kindly requesting things be made more official in the East, I'm going to have to insist that Sunfire be given the kingship items immediately.
 
With much hate,
Eon

As second in command of the East I've been actively trying to recruit people to join the land. After some discussion, Miq and Syrian have decided to leave their ill-managed lands/factions to join the East and finally bask in the rays of victory that can commonly be seen around Easterners during times of quests and events. It probably goes without saying that if I can recruit Miq and Syrian over, many more will follow. The one issue with this is that the East currently doesn't have one of those items that grants citizenship. Now after years of kindly requesting things be made more official in the East, I'm going to have to insist that Sunfire be given the kingship items immediately.
 
With much hate,
Eon

As second in command of the East I've been actively trying to recruit people to join the land. After some discussion, Miq and Syrian have decided to leave their ill-managed lands/factions to join the East and finally bask in the rays of victory that can commonly be seen around Easterners during times of quests and events. It probably goes without saying that if I can recruit Miq and Syrian over, many more will follow. The one issue with this is that the East currently doesn't have one of those items that grants citizenship. Now after years of kindly requesting things be made more official in the East, I'm going to have to insist that Sunfire be given the kingship items immediately.
 
With much hate,
Eon

As second in command of the East I've been actively trying to recruit people to join the land. After some discussion, Miq and Syrian have decided to leave their ill-managed lands/factions to join the East and finally bask in the rays of victory that can commonly be seen around Easterners during times of quests and events. It probably goes without saying that if I can recruit Miq and Syrian over, many more will follow. The one issue with this is that the East currently doesn't have one of those items that grants citizenship. Now after years of kindly requesting things be made more official in the East, I'm going to have to insist that Sunfire be given the kingship items immediately.
 
With much hate,
Eon

There are already methods to reset your VP.
If you haven't experienced the negative 2-5million VP then you experienced anything in MD and you haven't tried to find a solution nor you worked for it. A clickie is a begger's choice, don't go there. We already have those lame shoes.
Cross MP fights ... yea, like that will be fair.
How would you consider a fair fight between a new born baby (aka noob, aka MP3) and and a bull (aka less then average MP5) ? like : "please don't" or "may I touch you?" or ...
...wth ? are you crazy ? there is a reason why there are MP levels in place : to filter players to their own level (of skill and /or stats). It is for their own protection or the players around them.
More fair then a cross MP fight would be a clickie that you can push once every 5 minutes and you get random skills. That would be more fair.
Skill damage for 1000+ loses ... well, I think you all avoid a spoiler when you omit the real reason for wanting to stay at that many loses:
the skills you get by winning ANY fight even a non-damage one. nobody is crazy enough to attach you once you are that far below, they'd get negative honor in no time So ... skill damage there is mandatory, otherwise ppl would just wander way too far down.
Unfortunately there is nothing to force a player to move out of the "red" zone like : having 900+ extra loses would give you a daily bonus of ever increasing negative stat. That way you either die at 0 stats or you fight to get out.

And I write this separately as it needs special attention: there is/was one other precedence for this cross MP fight(er) and if you don't know it ... you should research for it (pointing at Fang).
Being as he is, Fang, in his way is asking for just this : free stats.
If you (Fang) want to teach players in other MPs to fight (like anyone would believe you know how), you should create new characters (YES ALTS) and teach them.
If you want spar with some friends of yours in low MPs (meaning MP4), push them to an alliance. But then ... good luck finding an alliance to trust you in.
TLDR: there are other ways for an MP3/4 to learn to fight or to grow other then you begging for them.

That would absolutely defeat the purpose of skilldamage in the first place. It was put in to slow the growth of monsters like me, this was Mur's specific reason for it which he told me multiple times. It did slow the growth tremendously, but whats it matter when I already had such high stats to begin with anyways. The numbers were already broken.
 
Temporary skilldamage would be worse than no skilldamage at all, since temporary skilldamage would just be a pathetic illusion.

I don't like the idea of these having to be "fair" fights. I get the desire to want to be able to have more people to train on/train with, but it makes no sense to handicap strong players so you and your buddies get to train without any downside. If you are bothered by higher MP's attacking, form a group and go somewhere. Try to get something created that makes it difficult for people like me to beat on your training groups. "Fair" fights for cross MP training look like a lazy and unimaginative way to deal with a possible "issue" in game.
 
My opinion on what should happen: Remove skill damage from the game entirely, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything. Getting smashed without skill damage really isn't a big deal these days (training groups, spells to give ve, certain creatures. People should be able to train just fine). Skilldamage is the only thing anyone should be complaining about since I've got my skill damage stat so high. Skilldamage has become so ingrained in my character that I do feel like I'd be losing out greatly if it was removed, but in my opinion it shouldn't have been put into the game to begin with and has been the single most devastating thing to happen to this game. Deal with the real problem and be done with it.

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How so? By getting capped too quickly? I see no problem with that, there are plenty of MP5's with garbage stats who get by just fine. They still manage to train alright. If you are referring to their VP numbers getting screwed up, then that should be looked into specifically.
How is that any different from now? New Mp5's/MP5's not in an alliance are majority of the time worth negative honor for most of us MP5's. They actually get decent honor gains for attacking us who are stuck at balance, right?

I don't like the idea of these having to be "fair" fights. I get the desire to want to be able to have more people to train on/train with, but it makes no sense to handicap strong players so you and your buddies get to train without any downside. If you are bothered by higher MP's attacking, form a group and go somewhere. Try to get something created that makes it difficult for people like me to beat on your training groups. "Fair" fights for cross MP training look like a lazy and unimaginative way to deal with a possible "issue" in game.
 
My opinion on what should happen: Remove skill damage from the game entirely, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything. Getting smashed without skill damage really isn't a big deal these days (training groups, spells to give ve, certain creatures. People should be able to train just fine). Skilldamage is the only thing anyone should be complaining about since I've got my skill damage stat so high. Skilldamage has become so ingrained in my character that I do feel like I'd be losing out greatly if it was removed, but in my opinion it shouldn't have been put into the game to begin with and has been the single most devastating thing to happen to this game. Deal with the real problem and be done with it.

I don't like the idea of these having to be "fair" fights. I get the desire to want to be able to have more people to train on/train with, but it makes no sense to handicap strong players so you and your buddies get to train without any downside. If you are bothered by higher MP's attacking, form a group and go somewhere. Try to get something created that makes it difficult for people like me to beat on your training groups. "Fair" fights for cross MP training look like a lazy and unimaginative way to deal with a possible "issue" in game.
 
My opinion on what should happen: Remove skill damage from the game entirely, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything. Getting smashed without skill damage really isn't a big deal these days (training groups, spells to give ve, certain creatures. People should be able to train just fine). Skilldamage is the only thing anyone should be complaining about since I've got my skill damage stat so high. Skilldamage has become so ingrained in my character that I do feel like I'd be losing out greatly if it was removed, but in my opinion it shouldn't have been put into the game to begin with and has been the single most devastating thing to happen to this game. Deal with the real problem and be done with it.

I don't like the idea of these having to be "fair" fights. I get the desire to want to be able to have more people to train on/train with, but it makes no sense to handicap strong players so you and your buddies get to train without any downside. If you are bothered by higher MP's attacking, form a group and go somewhere. Try to get something created that makes it difficult for people like me to beat on your training groups. "Fair" fights for cross MP training look like a lazy and unimaginative way to deal with a possible "issue" in game.
 
My opinion on what should happen: Remove skill damage from the game entirely, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything. Getting smashed without skill damage really isn't a big deal these days (training groups, spells to give ve, certain creatures. People should be able to train just fine). Skilldamage is the only thing anyone should be complaining about since I've got my skill damage stat so high. Skilldamage has become so ingrained in my character that I do feel like I'd be losing out greatly if it was removed, but in my opinion it shouldn't have been put into the game to begin with and has been the single most devastating thing to happen to this game. Deal with the real problem and be done with it.

I don't like the idea of these having to be "fair" fights. I get the desire to want to be able to have more people to train on/train with, but it makes no sense to handicap strong players so you and your buddies get to train without any downside. If you are bothered by higher MP's attacking, form a group and go somewhere. Try to get something created that makes it difficult for people like me to beat on your training groups. "Fair" fights for cross MP training look like a lazy and unimaginative way to deal with a possible "issue" in game.
 
My opinion on what should happen: Remove skill damage from the game entirely, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything. Getting smashed without skill damage really isn't a big deal these days (training groups, spells to give ve, certain creatures. People should be able to train just fine). Skilldamage is the only thing anyone should be complaining about since I've got my skill damage stat so high. Skilldamage has become so ingrained in my character that I do feel like I'd be losing out greatly if it was removed, but in my opinion it shouldn't have been put into the game to begin with and has been the single most devastating thing to happen to this game. Deal with the real problem and be done with it.

I don't like the idea of these having to be "fair" fights. I get the desire to want to be able to have more people to train on/train with, but it makes no sense to handicap strong players so you and your buddies get to train without any downside. If you are bothered by higher MP's attacking, form a group and go somewhere. Try to get something created that makes it difficult for people like me to beat on your training groups. "Fair" fights for cross MP training look like a lazy and unimaginative way to deal with a possible "issue" in game.
 
My opinion on what should happen: Remove skill damage from the game entirely, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything. Getting smashed without skill damage really isn't a big deal these days (training groups, spells to give ve, certain creatures. People should be able to train just fine). Skilldamage is the only thing anyone should be complaining about since I've got my skill damage stat so high. Skilldamage has become so ingrained in my character that I do feel like I'd be losing out greatly if it was removed, but in my opinion it shouldn't have been put into the game to begin with and has been the single most devastating thing to happen to this game. Deal with the real problem and be done with it.

I don't like the idea of these having to be "fair" fights. I get the desire to want to be able to have more people to train on/train with, but it makes no sense to handicap strong players so you and your buddies get to train without any downside. If you are bothered by higher MP's attacking, form a group and go somewhere. Try to get something created that makes it difficult for people like me to beat on your training groups. "Fair" fights for cross MP training look like a lazy and unimaginative way to deal with a possible "issue" in game.
 
My opinion on what should happen: Remove skill damage from the game entirely, then you shouldn't have to worry about anything. Getting smashed without skill damage really isn't a big deal these days (training groups, spells to give ve, certain creatures. People should be able to train just fine). Skilldamage is the only thing anyone should be complaining about since I've got my skill damage stat so high. Skilldamage has become so ingrained in my character that I do feel like I'd be losing out greatly if it was removed, but in my opinion it shouldn't have been put into the game to begin with and has been the single most devastating thing to happen to this game. Deal with the real problem and be done with it.