Character age appearances

[Muratus del Mur]

This is a strange ideea, one nearly impossible to do i would say, but ..here it is..doesn't matter "how" i got this to work, it matters how well it fits

_{In fact i will give a puzzle solver medal to who manages to create a formula based on the given data (active/total days), that will generate very similar or identical results. I am not expecting you to use the same method i did, but to create one that gives similar results.}

If a MD inhabitant would have an average life expectancy of about 90-100yrs , this is how old the characters should seem if compared to eachother as inhabitants of a separate world living their own separate life.

It is a very complex algorithm behind these calculations. I put the life expectancy a bit higher from the official 70-80yrs of humans because the results looked depressingly REAL using those settings :)))), and i find it more useful and interesting to have higher ages for characters than for humans. Its depressing to think that someone might die around 75yrs, but its nicer to thing someone is 90+yrs old and just a senior person , or even a wise old living being, and not already a potential corpse.Over the years, if this value remains calculated the same as i did it now, its possible to see people exceeding 100yrs, and by then they will indeed seem like living fossils in the md world. The "life"of a character is entirely depending up to you as a person, but from my experience so far, except the all-time exceptions, most regular players should finish their md experience about a character life estimated like in these values. We exclude here the accidents and talk just about old-age death, even if md is a dengerous place and the majority of characters end their life due to accidents or illness (of the soul or mind)

 

So remember i reserved a honorific place for the senior citizens and allowed them to have higher ages than humans generally might while still able to run quite vigorously around the realm..this is so in order to keep the beauty of an imaginary world.

Please let me know, do these values fit with your opinion of how old that character might be or not?

(possible issues, at low day counts, the age look suspicious)

Character	Years / Raw & growth	Real days
Akasha	87/90 (x2.9) Yrs	2913/3312
Muratus del Mur	77/85 (x2.7) Yrs	2575/3229
Chewett	82/88 (x2.8) Yrs	3072/3153
Vilinec	80/86 (x2.8) Yrs	2836/3144
Ledah	72/83 (x2.6) Yrs	2573/3133
*Grido*	80/86 (x2.8) Yrs	2909/3114
Metal Bunny	80/86 (x2.8) Yrs	2911/3090
Caela	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	54/3082
dst	80/86 (x2.8) Yrs	2980/3062
Jesus Faction	72/83 (x2.6) Yrs	2660/3061
Marvolo	61/76 (x2.4) Yrs	1907/3061
Demo Account	61/76 (x2.4) Yrs	2121/2990
Venger	36/63 (x1.7) Yrs	700/2981
No one	71/82 (x2.6) Yrs	2796/2980
gaconkzk	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	393/2956
gacontnt	27/58 (x1.4) Yrs	222/2952
blackrider	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	409/2943
EvilShinchan06	53/72 (x2.2) Yrs	1795/2924
Ivorak	67/80 (x2.5) Yrs	2707/2914
BloodPrince	42/67 (x1.9) Yrs	1248/2913
Karak	42/67 (x1.9) Yrs	1267/2904
Junior	63/79 (x2.4) Yrs	2618/2897
Remigio	27/57 (x1.4) Yrs	241/2895
dead06	27/58 (x1.4) Yrs	400/2890
Leixer	63/79 (x2.4) Yrs	2569/2887
stormrunner	33/62 (x1.6) Yrs	826/2886
CrazyMike	67/80 (x2.5) Yrs	2698/2884
Shadowseeker	62/77 (x2.4) Yrs	2391/2880
*Burns*	68/81 (x2.5) Yrs	2859/2875
Jubaris	63/79 (x2.4) Yrs	2648/2856
Lightsage	45/68 (x2) Yrs	1507/2854
Zleiphneir	56/73 (x2.3) Yrs	2080/2820
Jester	42/66 (x1.9) Yrs	1342/2819
Esmerelda	24/55 (x1.3) Yrs	226/2812
MRWander	30/60 (x1.5) Yrs	731/2807
SubZeroo	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	712/2795
Granos	30/60 (x1.5) Yrs	760/2794
Aeoshattr	45/68 (x2) Yrs	1612/2793
samon	52/71 (x2.2) Yrs	2001/2787
everyone	49/70 (x2.1) Yrs	1902/2751
Mystic	36/64 (x1.7) Yrs	1298/2744
Kyphis	61/76 (x2.4) Yrs	2553/2742
Aranna	52/71 (x2.2) Yrs	2024/2740
Clock Master	62/77 (x2.4) Yrs	2655/2740
Conc	33/61 (x1.6) Yrs	1026/2737
anonymous letter	49/70 (x2.1) Yrs	1936/2733
Juni0r	23/52 (x1.3) Yrs	80/2726
Lady Renata	24/56 (x1.3) Yrs	499/2723
tacitamuta	42/67 (x1.9) Yrs	1666/2721
Sir Blut	33/61 (x1.6) Yrs	1137/2696
MRF	27/58 (x1.4) Yrs	741/2695
Lord Corg	23/54 (x1.3) Yrs	311/2689
MRWanderer	27/57 (x1.4) Yrs	685/2688
sanddemon	24/55 (x1.3) Yrs	507/2688
Lone Wolf	36/63 (x1.7) Yrs	1328/2685
Falsh Nubrigar	46/69 (x2) Yrs	2067/2650
*Nimrodel*	45/68 (x2) Yrs	1962/2648
Rikstar	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	985/2647
Neno Veliki	57/74 (x2.3) Yrs	2572/2639
MRAlyon	57/74 (x2.3) Yrs	2614/2629
Handy Pockets	39/65 (x1.8) Yrs	1677/2627
Masked Figure 76022	39/65 (x1.8) Yrs	1699/2627
phantasm	49/70 (x2.1) Yrs	2154/2621
Assira the Black	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	1056/2598
Blackwood Forest	24/55 (x1.3) Yrs	668/2593
Shemhazaj	46/69 (x2) Yrs	2149/2584
Death Ray	24/55 (x1.3) Yrs	781/2550
Vrag	23/52 (x1.3) Yrs	488/2493
nadrolski	45/68 (x2) Yrs	2341/2432
Arazun	21/46 (x1.4) Yrs	119/2408
Sephirah Caelum	30/60 (x1.5) Yrs	1571/2403
Edgra	33/61 (x1.6) Yrs	1817/2349
*Miq*	42/66 (x1.9) Yrs	2281/2346
Illyria	21/46 (x1.4) Yrs	205/2334
BFH the WHITE	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	1652/2323
Ophiel	22/44 (x1.5) Yrs	47/2292
Sajura Oninay	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	1716/2284
JadenDew	24/56 (x1.3) Yrs	1346/2276
chirobitz	22/44 (x1.5) Yrs	128/2256
emanis	21/46 (x1.4) Yrs	466/2213
darkraptor	30/59 (x1.5) Yrs	1953/2162
Esmaralda	23/53 (x1.3) Yrs	1338/2133
Ryan Delphus	23/52 (x1.3) Yrs	1256/2112
*Sunfire*	27/58 (x1.4) Yrs	1983/2112
VonUngernSternberg	22/48 (x1.4) Yrs	884/2094
Ant King	22/43 (x1.5) Yrs	410/2078
Yala Sviseusen	22/44 (x1.5) Yrs	510/2075
Ars Alchemy	23/50 (x1.4) Yrs	1139/2070
Azull	27/58 (x1.4) Yrs	2053/2058
Fire Starter	27/57 (x1.4) Yrs	1923/2056
Menhir	27/57 (x1.4) Yrs	1996/2054
Lintara	27/57 (x1.4) Yrs	1974/2053
AmberRune	27/58 (x1.4) Yrs	2004/2053
Draconas	22/47 (x1.4) Yrs	997/2006
Falronn	22/47 (x1.4) Yrs	1001/1974
Trola	22/39 (x1.7) Yrs	215/1973
Shammus	22/41 (x1.6) Yrs	463/1964
Maebius	23/49 (x1.4) Yrs	1274/1956
Kiley	23/52 (x1.3) Yrs	1665/1941
Fang Archbane	23/45 (x1.5) Yrs	971/1881
Tal	22/48 (x1.4) Yrs	1388/1876
zoolii	21/35 (x1.8) Yrs	44/1862
Ganesha	21/40 (x1.6) Yrs	661/1805
lashtal	23/50 (x1.4) Yrs	1681/1790
nad in the box	22/47 (x1.4) Yrs	1478/1760
asquiffy	22/48 (x1.4) Yrs	1687/1711
Guardian of Root 346ad	22/41 (x1.6) Yrs	987/1672
Mallos	22/43 (x1.5) Yrs	1254/1661
Antyvas	21/46 (x1.4) Yrs	1614/1636
gonzalocsdf	21/42 (x1.5) Yrs	1192/1627
Change	21/40 (x1.6) Yrs	1096/1577
Xolotl	327/327 (x3) Yrs	862/16923
Coyolxauhqui	22/33 (x2) Yrs	689/1407
Dark Demon	22/38 (x1.7) Yrs	1248/1397
Eara Meraia	22/36 (x1.8) Yrs	1032/1379
Haustorium	18/26 (x2.1) Yrs	59/1356
Time Patrol	21/32 (x2) Yrs	646/1354
*Syrian*	23/34 (x2) Yrs	1206/1205
Dan Planewalker	22/31 (x2.1) Yrs	913/1185
sysy	18/24 (x2.2) Yrs	195/1177
Koshu Farsight	18/25 (x2.2) Yrs	376/1152
Eleyne	19/27 (x2.1) Yrs	642/1120
Valoryn	21/32 (x2) Yrs	1122/1120
Syri	16/22 (x2.2) Yrs	139/1111
Xanya	18/24 (x2.2) Yrs	310/1103
Rophs	21/30 (x2.1) Yrs	1037/1099
zooliii	15/20 (x2.3) Yrs	101/1035
Lania	20/28 (x2.1) Yrs	940/1010
Ungod	18/25 (x2.2) Yrs	858/884
blackshade rider	12/15 (x2.4) Yrs	524/561
MaGoHi	11/14 (x2.4) Yrs	490/498
Dark Harvester	8/9 (x2.6) Yrs	71/454
Aethon	9/10 (x2.6) Yrs	302/377
Caddeus J Rubros	7/7 (x2.8) Yrs	4/359
She of Stars	7/8 (x2.7) Yrs	134/353
klawdees	8/9 (x2.6) Yrs	306/346
Wideberth	8/9 (x2.6) Yrs	302/333
George Petrov	7/8 (x2.7) Yrs	228/311
Laurence Gardener	7/7 (x2.8) Yrs	109/308
Merry	5/4 (x4) Yrs	27/177
Mariana	5/4 (x4) Yrs	41/177
Sirix the black robot	3/2 (x4.5) Yrs	80/84
Tear Oaths	2/1 (x5) Yrs	24/23
maggieramon	0/0 (x5) Yrs	6/14

 

Edited May 2, 2016 by Muratus del Mur
added the data

[Muratus del Mur]

Note that this is an experiment, and these values are for ROLEPLAY PURPOSE

[Muratus del Mur]

There are long extinct players on this list, apparently they logged in the last week thats why

Edited May 2, 2016 by Muratus del Mur

[dst]

22 minutes ago, Muratus del Mur said:

There are long extinct players on this list, apparently they logged in the last week thats why

Not last week but longer.

 

[Burns]

1 hour ago, Muratus del Mur said:

Xolotl 327/327 (x3) Yrs 862/16923

I like that one, i suspect a typo in the total days count, but it's a cool result

And i bet you put a hack in your algorithm so you'd be younger than dst, Grido and Chewie

[Aeoshattr]

I kinda like the idea, but if I may, I have a suggestion:

In my opinion, I think it should be named 'true' age, rather than 'apparent' age. Mostly because to some roleplayers, their apparent age is key to their role (examples: Syrian, StrongWilled Legna). So they may appear much younger than they actually are. 

[Mallos]

Looks like most of us are still young, relatively speaking.

[Ungod]

The fact that Junior is 63 years old cracks me up

[Nimrodel]

Nim is as old as I am 28

But the prospect of RP excites me

Edited May 2, 2016 by Nimrodel

[DARK DEMON]

What the heck, Syrian has never missed a single day!!

[Muratus del Mur]

Yeah there is an error with the filtering i used, so ignore the long dead accounts that are on that list or account with weird number of days, they don't belong to actual players so its ok.

Anyway, do i hear just opinions in favor of implementing such a thing? Anyone has something to say about why not to use? If no argumwnts against, i migh add this info to the profile page tonight.

 

I was very curious to know if you think these ages are fitted for their characters. Can you imagine these characters to have this age? What about yours?

 

I think i will make a poll. I cand adjust the calculations also after integrwting this so its no problem

[Syrian]

my character doest fit with the age shown here, a character of two sides/personas, neither of which are 23

[klatdees]

I have felt 8 ever since I started here.  I feel 8 in real life too, on good days.

 

But feelings do not the truth make

[Muratus del Mur]

Please consider that you can't be part of a new world and expect to play a role of someone much much older in that world 

 

I could also slightly change the calculations and hide the results. If this gets officially implemented as a property of your character i will use it ..this will be the age i will consider you have... This might affect many things ..from applying rules..or givibg our roles..and much more

 

Update..i cand find how to make a poll on phone interface...so i will just base my decision on your comments for now

[Aeoshattr]

In my case only, I don't really picture Aeo as 45... but I honestly can't picture any age for Aeo since he's so many-faced. 

Again, however, I'd name it "True Age" or something along those lines, not "Apparent", since people might be a certain age but look older/younger. This True Age would perhaps reflect  their maturity and affinity for the game and the game's world (in other words, just how much they are a part of MD, rather than the way they look).

Now I'm actually slightly conflicted... maybe I play Aeo as looking 30-ish, but he's actually 'mature' enough to be 45... Mur now I don't know anymore! HALP.

[Syrian]

38 minutes ago, Muratus del Mur said:

Please consider that you can't be part of a new world and expect to play a role of someone much much older in that world 

 

while one aspect of her character is displayed as being older, maybe..mid 30s, if you take from her back story, the back story isnt so much about what happened before MD (even though it reads as such) its a timeless extract of memory, its not something that even truly existed, much like how there was never ancient lore for MD but its still written, her back story of that part of her is also like ancient lore, its a story about what happened before, it has its points and parallels and its something that "must" have happened to explain the way that she works within the confines of MD, that back story has no bearing on who she is or any of her personalities or any of the reasons why she is like that on her deepest levels of character, which extends above MD and across game borders into real life, one aspect of her manifests as an adult, another a child, but one is younger than 23 and the other is much older in how they present themselves, saying that she's "actually 23" doesn't work as her age isn't exactly real to begin with. 

MD itself is timeless, the people in it also can be if they choose, if they play a character then that character is also "frozen" in time unless that player decides to actively age them, having MD tell them how old they are is counter productive to this point and doesn't fit in with how things are, people used to tell me that "oh, youre a teenager now because you aged with being in MD 1 year" well no, because it doesnt work like that, we are spirits, we are whatever we define ourselves as and that also extends to our ages 

 

edit: added extra and fixed typos

Edited May 2, 2016 by Syrian

[dst]

I refuse to believe (no idea if it's the proper word or not) that I am 80. I don't like being 80 not even in a game. I don't like thinking of people's age. One of the things that made me "function" in MD was the fact that  I never knew the age of the players (except by finding it by mistake because I have NEVER searched for it). I am biased when it comes to age.

For example I knew king bull was over 50 so every time he did something "young" I would roll my eyes. Or when I found ledah was 10 or 12 I start not taking him seriously (even more that I was at that point). Same with Juba. I knew his age so I treated him like a dumb, full of hormones adolescent. And so on.

I mean I know it's not the real age but deep inside I might start treating people differently.We are so used with age as a concept that it will be difficult to adapt to the new concept. Especially since they have the same name. But I don't think a "name change" will help.  Active days is a thing. But translating that (or the total days) into years is not something I like. I cannot give a very argument-ed answer but at the very moment I don't like the whole idea. Imo we should aim to be young and not old.

[Sephirah Caelum]

Awesome! Sephirah has the same age of myself! Great!

[DARK DEMON]

As a serious reply, I think this 'formula' has a problem with extreme old and extreme young. Nobody is 8 and nobody is 80..

If you want my personal opinion on DD's age, well it might be a coincidence that I never wondered how old DD might be, but now that I see 22, I am not very shocked to be honest (I have no protests against it). "Indifferent" is the proper word I guess. I never really pay attention to age when there's no need to.

[MaGoHi]

i never did much RP, but i would never base any of the RP i do on this age (11) so i dont need this implemented

[lashtal]

lashtal

23/50 (x1.4) Yrs

1681/1790

 ... seems a bit odd but it's good to feel young! 

[Kaya]

Hm... I wonder why I'm 15 years older than Sunfire while we're only only 18 AD apart. Well, I assume it's because of my hiatus when I was still a few AD old, but it does feel odd. That being said Samon did go through a sort of midlife crisis a while back... Maybe that's why he started killing people in Necrovion

 

Other than that instead of age appearance I'd rather call it something along the lines of experience. I don't think it is something that should be forced upon a character for rp, but it could be interesting for other purposes.

[Aethon]

I'd be 9...does that mean I can get away with Murder?

[Assira the Black]

Hmm... I do not like the idea of age being manditory. StrongWilled Legna is a child of time and I have it where she does not age past 10 years old. She will be forever 10 and locked in childhood. Assira, I have be the same age as myself(if I remember to update the age in the papers), there are reasons why I have these characters this way. honestly if this is manditory in its implementation, I will ignore it. Because to acknowledgr it or go by it, would destroy/change apart of my characters. 

I think otherwise it is neat and interesting results. 

[klatdees]

16 minutes ago, Aethon said:

I'd be 9...does that mean I can get away with Murder?

Even if you hear an answer to this, in practice things might be different...perhaps you will have to try it out, in order to properly document and chronicle the change...

 

e: you might need to find someone willing to give a child a deadly weapon

Edited May 2, 2016 by klatdees