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I'd still like some evidence, please, from Eon or Mur, or any other involved party.

Grabbing a shared item to keep it away from somebody is still using it. For example, if Eon were to take a needle so that nobody could use it against him.

These are the location of herbs in the Tribunal, along with what they can be farmed to while still getting full regen*. Coord: 7_lonelyroundabout_1 30/44 (28/44 as buffer) Coord: 7_roundaboutalley_1 8/12 Coord: 7_roundaboutsplit_1 24/35 (22/35 as buffer) Coord: 7_stonepath_1 16/24 Coord: 7_stonepathclear_1 16/24 Coord: 7_melodyhouse_1 12/17 (10/17 as buffer) Coord: 7_melodystairs_1 14/21 Coord: 7_walkway_1 8/12 Coord: 7_templealley_1 6/8 (4/8 as buffer) Coord: 7_statuehallgarden_1 17/25 (16/25 as buffer) Coord: 7_ascent_1 11/16 (10/16 as buffer) Coord: 7_plains_1 9/13 (8/13 as buffer) I ask that you harvest only to these values or leave them even higher, and that if you see somebody taking more than what is listed here, to send their name and a screenshot to me, xrieg, phantasm, or any other Tribunal citizen** through PM, rather than in the forum, so that we can try to avoid falsely accusing people. If you really want herbs but all of these locations are harvested, contact me and I will try to give you some. I also ask that you not harvest to the buffer value unless you need it. Thanks Udgard for letting me know about buffers. *Please correct me if any of these values are wrong, all math was done by me, so there are bound to be mistakes. **Any Tribunal citizen who does not wish to take part, please tell me and I will make note of it here.

None of the people jailed (as far as I know) were jailed for using alts. Mighty Pirate used the aramor, and Nadrolski used Paracelsus. The problem is that they put all the tools in one place, which is now impossible due to the new restrictions Mur has added [b]due to this abuse[/b]. As the announcement says: [quote]You should not use alts to store multiple shared items [u]and you should not hoard them, these items are meant to be used by many people not hoarded by a few.[/u][/quote]

Happy birthday, Rendril

I don't want any rewards, I just want some proof. I did what I did in regards to Mighty Pirate for the community. [color=#0000ff]Following discussion about punishments and knowing things split [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/10933-taking-shared-tools/"]http://magicduel.inv...g-shared-tools/[/url][/color] [color=#0000ff]-Burns[/color]

May I have some sort of record or explanation of how Eon helped in the tool investigation? For the sake of transparency.

I'd like to just say, I think there's always been some pressure around the decision to advance to MP4, and then to MP5. Back when I did it, some friends told me that MP4 was totally different and that I was probably gonna do badly, and then I was told the same thing about MP5. The thing is, though, they weren't that different. It was the same as going from the bottom of MP3 to the cap, only everybody was a little bit older. Now I look around and I see the same thing happening, some people even encourage others to stay MP3 or MP4. Now, I can't honestly say that I know what it's like to go through from MP3 to MP5 anymore: Even if I were to make an alt and do it, I'd know everything I know now, and that gives me a significant advantage. Really what I want to say is this: Advance to MP5, whether you think you'll like it or not, just to try it out. If you have reservations about it, make an alt and do it on that account instead, and if you do it on your main and decide you don't like it, you can make a new alt and start over, and play however you want, knowing everything you'll have learned. I'm not your typical grinder trying to tell you all to go MP5 so that I have more targets, I'm only trying to tell you to give it a shot, and see what it's like, and learn what you can while you're there. Note: This was meant as kind of a general thing, for any new players who happen to read it, not you in particular, whoever you may be.

In case anybody was wondering, like I was: [b]Coord:[/b] 7_intown_1 is Jester's door/road to eros [b]Coord:[/b] 7_plains_1 is plains of Liberty As for the actual character name thing, I always assumed they were left as they were because Jester and Liberty are not only names, but I could be wrong.

Actually, Plains of Liberty and Jester's Door are subtitles, Tribunal has no scene names.

Suit yourself, Yrth. I'd like to thank both Kiley and Mighty Pirate for their understanding, and I ask that this thread be closed, since the issue is resolved.

[quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1320929391' post='95581'] To thoes saying the mighty taking the tool from the same place is agents the rule then the water dowsers are just as guilty for having multiple of the same bloody tool. [/quote] Do you have proof? As for your question about me being the police: I made myself this 'role', and if you have a problem with it you're free to talk to me.

Mighty Pirate, even if I have my way and you are not officially punished, you are still responsible for what you've done. I hope you'll at least try to take that responsibility seriously, rather than the way you've been responding to this topic. I ask you to consider the effects your actions have caused for not only yourself, but your guild. I can't speak for others, but I, personally, don't want to trade with someone who is so willing to cheat the system and worse yet, someone who doesn't seem to see or care how drastic their actions have been, as long as they get off without a hitch. Nonetheless, time will tell if you have learned something or not.

[quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1320841367' post='95526'] So if you are going to start picking on this sort of thing then bring every one into it that is abusing and not just the one guild or player. But all of them and i mean ALL of them. It is funny how you lot decided to gang up on one player until they give up and not bother others whom have been abusing the system for a much longer time. [/quote] If a 'fool' like me can start this, Yrth, then surely you can do the same. If you think somebody else is abusing tools, bring it to light.

I suggest Yrth gets a penalty point for condoning such abuse, and MP gets off with a warning. Anyone else?

They went to an empty aramor, Shem, not an alt, not an actual player, not at all the intended use of aramors OR heat jars. Ignnus: Exactly my thoughts. I'm just wondering whether to blame the whole guild or just him. Perhaps Yrth knew of this as well, I don't know.

I could open a court case instead of asking if you'd prefer.

[quote name='Falronn' timestamp='1320822297' post='95498'] If you really want to find out who did it, try to find who's ID is 169283. Watch the triggers box, or just start casting spells on all the Golemus citizens until the right one comes up. Or try to use other clues, like how do the logs get to be like that (with the blanked out info)? Is there anyone clearing the chat in Tempest Fort? Or look at the times it was done then see who was around there next time if they do it again. [/quote] Good point, happens to be Mighty Pirate's ID. Mighty Pirate: Care to explain yourself further than your blatant advertising?

So, I believe it's been three weeks in a row now, almost all of the heat jars from Kelle'tha have gone to an empty aramor. Considering the time span it was accomplished in (18:50:19 - 19:16:59), it could not be somebody who took 40 AP to move, so in my eyes it can either be somebody with shiny powers, which would explain the lack of names in the item logs, or one or more GG citizens trying to keep public items from the public, which would explain why one single jar found its way into Kiley's inventory, while the rest went to this aramor. Either way, the one(s) partaking in such action is in the very least morally reprehensible, if not blatantly breaking 'rules' pertaining to shared items as stated here: [quote] [b]All shared items have been returned to their original place.[/b] Go grab your favorite tool and engoy it till the next regroup. Try avoiding cauldron type items just before this regrouping takes place as they will regroup even if they are in use. Item keep some of the modified values on regrouping. [u]You should not use alts to store multiple shared items and you should not hoard them, these items are meant to be used by many people not hoarded by a few.[/u] Item regrouping happens on every Tuesday, 04:15 on odd dates and 16:15 on even dates of the month, Server Time[/quote] I am asking whoever is doing this to step forward and tell me and the community, and if that does not happen, then we'll just see. Here's a screenshot of the logs themselves, if anybody's curious. [url="http://storenow.net/my/?f=3403"]http://storenow.net/my/?f=3403[/url] Might as well mention that if this were a GG citizen, they would be violating at least two of the land laws: [quote][size=3][size=3][b]To respect and return the property of the land[/b][/size][/size][/quote] This is, in fact, doing the exact opposite, it is making the 'property' of the land useless. [quote][size=3][b][size=3]To be an ambassador for the land[/size][/b][/size][/quote] In doing this you basically give anyone who makes the arduous trek through GG or the maze with the one purpose of obtaining an item that there should be more than enough of a big old slap in the face.

[quote][font="Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif"][size="2"][color="#663300"][b]Congratulations, you filled 10k of your heat tolerance by fighting. Visit your quest page to continue. [/b][/color][/size][/font][/quote] This notice should probably be changed. Filling 10000 heat tolerance doesn't do anything in the quest page anymore.

What if it were always usable at MP3, only on Tranquility days at MP4 and not at all at MP5?

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Where can you be found?

We've got mood panel, and can re-post the logs over and over again until the mods pull out their hair << Not like they can complain, they have to stay anonymous.