Jubaris

Shadowseeker, I can easily gain adepts from Marble Dale Park (as I always did... accent on always ) with or without it's management as new sparring grounds (you speak of ownership but I did not want to proclaim dominion over it, I wanted for it to start as a project, made mostly by me and help of number of people of course, but eventually let to be able to take care of itself, based on common sense of the community thanks to the minimization of number of rules that were there - more rules, harder to maintain. The Main idea is to help - yes I know that is hard to believe to many of you people.) why do you point my mp6 status as an advantage? the spell levels are so bugged, and the strength of the spells are so low (except No Multi and Freeze that I don't use against anyone at all) that people should actually laugh at people trying to become mp6. When I see people trying to become mp6, I ask them - why? I personally stayed as mp6 since I value creation as most interesting part of the game here, since the structure is still pretty much on the very basis, and I can help in a lot of things as mp6. (mostly in projects like this, but that was the role that I chose when joining the Savelites) Yes well I would rather mention it in some kind of chatter as an offtopic then approach a person I hardly know with a request to "take over" the Sparring Grounds, especially since I didn't find the need to message someone who, at least in my opinion, left the grounds on its own (meaning that you did a job as long as you could and felt that you should move on to other things, fair enough, but you can't keep things like this in your pocket) All due respect to your work, but I didn't find the need to message you, since I don't know you that well, my apologizes for that impoliteness. Perhaps you wish to speak with me about this in private then (about those personal issues, our discussion on the grounds can continue here)? Sadly I do not have WPs to spend. I would gladly use a WP to be able to edit Location tags (I am not entirely sure how it works tho... I spend WP only for one location, right? or for the ability to edit each and every one? ) I kept the name since I didn't want to go back to the name of "Dojo", that would cause some mess I think (like this haven't...), and Sparring Grounds seemed fitting (the location had a tag, what you know ) I should have somehow appreciated your and Calyx's work in public with this, history is something I am careful about anyway, but I didn't, and I am sorry I overlooked that. I don't like tho your threatening attitude towards Marind Bell, it is unnecessary and very ill-mannered, and I'm sure that was just a moment-mistake.

I've been chased by certain person (you know who you are ) how I didn't message "the veterans" about this... supposedly, by a high ranking member of the community, I need to speak with as many veterans as possible before I start anything. Still stuck in RPC universe, are we? I realize I might hurt some egos by this, but I really messaged only people who are related to this subject (king of the land that has that specific location in its territory and all the people that I was informed of who wanted to help with Sparring Grounds) Shadowseeker, first, I don't have your contact in any form, nor I see you in this realm at all to chatter with you and mention things, second you abandoned the Sparring Grounds soooo long ago, why would I need to approach you to start something at Marble Dale Park? you shout how Lifeline cannot interfere in locations such as Marble Dale Park since it is more of a general realm's "ownership" then Marind Bell's (I see a Marind Bell tag there anyway, just for the record), yet you claim to own the grounds and that you won't allow me to "take it over"? I gain no power with this... I've been mp6 over a year, with no advantages (I didn't had a decent training in whole of that time, I just stagnated in profile while helping other people I don't really know) and you dare to point me out as a power grabber? and you seem very frustrated about me tending to my alliance other than Sparring Grounds... At that point it was well maintained and I didn't think it needed my help, so I concentrated on things where I was needed more - The Savelites Church (and I might say without any subjectivity that I did a pretty good job) (as a note I didn't like your starting approach either but I tried answering you, I don't hold any grudges on you out of anything, but yet you seem to have some against me) What DO you think my motives are? I really can't see your logic in this...

I would have if Marble Dale Park was maintained. You speak of protection, but there is no protection in Marble Dale Park. There is just a signpost "do not attack awake people without their permission" without anyone to maintain the rule (it was a community project so you can't complain to Mur for getting attacked). the park is where all the newbies first start out. it's best if they see action there, semi-restricted FFA as Redd called it Fights are integral part of players' development, and people don't learn much at all by progression on non damage rituals, as proof I know number of mp5s who were so impressed by Fight Club's basic rituals when they found out the flaws of some rituals. The fact is that mp3s are balanced out, they just need to buy a grassan or two and they can beat out anyone, since they are killing themselves, and newbie can kill out older wounded mp3s, so I wouldn't worry that much. I know for certain that that would make the game more interesting to new players and more challenging and therefore even more fun You are afraid that people will lose some fights... well, that is the point? you learn from your losses. And things aren't that black as you present them to be but I won't push it through before I gain some more feedback from you all. Please continue and I'll try to make you see how I see this. Maybe you'll like it after a post or two Goal of the game isn't to hide out and train peacefully for 300 activity days until you claim you are strong enough to "go out". enjoy the game from day one.

there are number of people who offered help (those who aren't known as vets but medium aged mp4 and mp5), 'regular' people can count with getting everyone familiar with the system. the ones that can help with spells and helping newbs are the mp6s and some with healing spells or similar, and those I am hopeful of getting involved in doing the same. It takes some time naturally, things can't happen over night, and I'll do my best (once I start applying it in few days unless anything happens to stop this) to process this as planned. I alone would be enough to keep it maintained, but I can't really stay 24/7 on MD, rest assured that I will seek those who are able to help

it is hardly an empty change, since the change is based on changing un-preserved rules of the Sparring Grounds you started and Dojo Calyx started. like I said, I presented how it should work, encouragements and discouragements, it is up to the people how they will act. One act leads to another, I will try to make younglings learn about something, other than attacking non-damage rituals. This way it should actually be a game. I will try to balance things out with what I said, use of my spells and other people who might join in in time, but not in order to punish anyone, but to keep balance of youngling's prosper. To please your ears, Lifeline approved it as well and supports it.

In order for younglings to learn in this realm, Sparring Grounds need to evolve. Things can’t be served easy on the plate (nor it was ever possible to maintain that fully at Marble Dale Park). Current Sparring Grounds are not maintained by anyone, so I am announcing this, and it is up to you people will you apply these standards. Sparring Grounds is a place where free attacks are allowed now. The only thing that is forbidden and that will be tried to put an end are regen rituals, lifestealers, and such in case where people use them to harm other players intentionally with negative XP, and its general limited use without mutual consent. People are asked NOT to use ultimate rituals to farm countless wins, but to use “interesting” rituals, train new creatures yes, but not using “beasts” to ensure their training. More of a testing abilities and tactics of variety of creatures, you can see it as continuation of Burns’ Fight Club. Those who have nothing better to do than violate learning state of younglings perhaps cannot be “punished”, but their exposing certainly won’t help their building of a role (unless it is desired to be disliked by many), as long as there are enough people who realize this, there really won’t be that danger in that kind of people. (all you need is a number of people who actively participate in giving chance for younglings to test new things, rituals) and those who use the place to farm countless wins will be weakened by my spells or anyone else’s who want to balance things out (not in order to harm the “strong” but in order to give chance to the younglings to beat on the most powerful of ‘em all ) --- that mostly applies to veteran mp3s who have drachorns and tokens for example, mp3s and mp4s who have some great strength that isn’t available to others in the beginnings. something like freeze-spell, or no-multi-spell. (nothing serious ) so use this as truly a sparring grounds and fight! But not to annihilate but to learn by fighting! Your goal isn’t to kill. This is intended for the mp3s and mp4s, I am not entirely sure how could this work on mp5 (it is considered that MP5s already learnt what they needed for fighting and can manage to survive on their own now. I only ask that you do not violate non-mp5-ally members, but it is up to your conscience) As an mp6 I will be there to help and heal those who are wounded and I also ask that of all other mp6s and those who will become one (or have any kind of helpful spells and have enough will to participate in something like this) this is also a first step that will be followed with things like that 'grand youngster quest', with hopefully many more later on, that will result something like MD University restored. After some feedback, if nothing tries to stop this, I will begin announcing it in game and getting to know newbs with this.

[quote name='apophys' date='03 July 2010 - 08:20 PM' timestamp='1278181239' post='63275'] As dst indirectly points out, there is a conflict of interest here. By being the judge of entries, you will be biased toward positive remarks. But a separate judge would of course not know what you can be thinking... The fairest way I see for this to continue is to have a separate judge or panel of judges, and to judge based on quality of writing with no emphasis on truthfulness. Or just change the topic of the writings. [/quote] I agree. If the quest carries on I think the quest should have a judge(s) who would decide what "opinion" is the best, based on the facts that were mentioned in that opinion example: I think Smdrljivko is mean and corrupted since at that and that point when Tipikaka asked where can avatars be bought, he answered that they are acquired by random pick from the creator of the game so Tipikaka could use his RL money, investing into a trade for a cheap creature from Smrdljivko. of course, facts mentioned in those opinions should really have at least some indirect proof... it's just a thought note: this story is entirely fictional with fictional characters. any relation with in game events is purely coincidental.

happy birthday Kets

if you want to learn younglings about rituals... gain all wodin seals and revive Wodin Ullr he is mp1 and can attack anyone (can be attacked by anyone). it's up to you to find a way to persuade the owners of the seals

Massive Attack concert. Martina Topley Bird, playing for about less than an hour before Massive Attack as a pre-group. enjoy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRXeVIf23Tc Massive Attack at full strength ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7asmYvd9MA&feature=related

ok gremlin. I will wait two days to give the chance to others to outbid you if anyone wants.

I will but please message me for details (it's not only cause of players usually wanting to be anonymous, but quest may very likely involve some simple riddles about players who participate, and if they know who participate they can easily spam everyone with message "are you the one in this riddle" with kinda spoils the fun for some I guess.)

oh sorry... I'll erase them in a moment.

I'm trying to start something that will introduce the youngsters with the aspects of MD, show them paths of knowledge, let them gain a info or two about the realm. it will involve many things from fighthing challenges (tho I need voluenters for that, one or two mp3 and mp4 since it is a quest meant for them.) and land teachings to adventure log tasks, and lot more. It will have fitting rewards for the youngsters (usable creatures hard to get for them at certain checkpoints, quality avatars for the ones who do the best overall most likely... it won't have WPs I'll try to discourage alts doing this in that way.) what I need from you are your applies to be part of the quest. Players with a developed role who usually stay at a specific location (so that can easily be found), with a great plus if they have something to teach the new players about that is specific to their background (one of the goals is also to show the player opportunities in the realm, so it can easily involve Land cultures and an option of joining one at point, or neutral guilds - with joining being unrelated to the quest) to apply to me (Forum PMs please.) any suggestions would also be welcome, I obviously have no personal gains from this, so let this be a project for young to get adapted into MD more easily better than seeing hundreds of people fading (I am sure at least a dozen of them would stay if they were familiar about this place and its interesting aspects). It will have a nice fitting story as well. edit: just to make sure, the project making just started, so don't expect it to be out in few days. I assure you it will be worked on tho.

[quote name='argos' date='27 June 2010 - 03:40 PM' timestamp='1277646046' post='62748'] then princ [/quote] well I never dropped... so it must have to do with the new feature (since when have this started happening?). New features usually bring one or two bugs that need attending to... hopefully Mur will see this and understand what's the problem.

if you level up (get to next mind power level) or your protector drops to mp5, you lose protector.

as soon as I got out of prison, the day after it I went to Belgrade and was absent from home till today. I apologize cause I wasn't specific (I was expecting to see people outbiding each other at least till certain point), but I won't accept such low offers as 2 silvers (as Chewett said, this is a quality avatar, and I don't feel like giving it for such small amount, it can really serve me better if I sell it for 1$ to the shop, or would make me feel better if I use it as a quest reward, perhaps I'll do just that.) again, I apologize for lack of information. I will give the topic few more days, but if someone don't offer at least 10 silvers, I'll use it as a quest reward in events I'll make for youngest players of the realm.

I personally don't look on "today's birthdays" that much Cutler, I noticed some few times on really weird situations, do not think that people don't value you just cause you didn't get a birthday topic. well happy belated birthday Cutler. May your programing skills go above Bill Gates People make their own opinion on some people, and that's fine, but there is really no need for you to attack someone on such a subject (birthday), who isn't present, and the chances are will never be able to respond.

Happy Birthday Savel. May you never be forgotten.

Your ignorance will be your doom. Root of the Matter Inn republic won’t prosper. Tell me one new Lorerootian that shows some great potential? I can name at least one for every other land. You are making a land of buffoons. I see no changes and there won’t be any. Tho even with this I made progress that can be classified as greatest in the 8 month history of this kingdom - Firsanthalas actually asking other people what they think about their roles (new topic inspired by me.) but that’s just a mask. That’s just the way it is. I am gone now, and I won’t be getting back till I see some changes, till then I can try to reason some of Lorerootian people, not to act against Firsanthalas but to understand, and I’ll always be there for those just in need. Root of the Matter Inn base, Guardians of the Root will continue this way till perhaps someone decides to do something, Children of the Eclipse will stay in their own business unwilling or too afraid to done anything of importance to Loreroot, and Savelites will be now lead by the one who betrayed his oath and principles of his brotherhood. Good luck prospering. I will seek my refuge elsewhere – have no fear, I can take care on my own, but the problem is that you people can’t. And at the end, we’ll see the results and who was right and not. I hope that the number of good individuals will end your illusions, but I doubt it. Some things will never change. [b]edit: for those who cannot process on normal thought, Sparrhawk is regarded as part of those individuals who actually think independently of the seeds others plant. (yeah, I know it is hard to believe, but Sparrhawk did actually form an opinion of his own, I didn't "twist" him.)[/b]