Yoshi

[quote name='Firsanthalas' timestamp='1284194433' post='68182']
First up, Rhaegar was let into the alliance along with other people when Grido and Z tried to rebuild it. He did not rebuild it from nothing like Jazira is now attempting to do.
[b]He changed it, and you cannot deny that. It doesn't matter if he rebuilt it or not.[/b]

Secondly, Rhaegar himself seemed to change the direction and ideas for the Church on several occassions. At one point he started to take up residence in the Tribunal Temple and he spoke about using it as a base for the Savels. That seemed to just peter out after a while. Then he wanted the Savels to be historians in Loreroot, then he started the avatar shop. There is more, but they are the big ones I can think of right off the top of my head.
[b]Oh no, he tried to do other things! His life didn't revolve around the Savels 100%! He tried to give the Savels a NEW ROLE? BLASPHEMY! Nobody else has ever given an alliance a new role![/b]

Thirdly, he's a blockhead with as much subtlety as a bull in a china shop. He has zero tact and succeeded in royally getting up a lot of people's noses with his crap. He still does. He had an issue with me from day 1. Why? Because he listened to and believed venomous crap that was still boiling over from old wounds in Loreroot. No matter what happened, he never ever got past that. In short, he was a source of conflict within Loreroot and outside it too.
[b]That doesn't change the fact that you ONLY "put up with him" and didn't try to establish friendly ties. (Simply taking the information from your post, I don't pretend to know about your personal issues)[/b]

I put up with Rhaegar for as long as I did for one simple fact. I was trying to be fair. I did not want my personal feelings towards him to cloud my judgement and I wanted to give him a chance. Many people felt that I was too soft and I believe that Rhaegar himself started to believe that I was somehow weak and he could push me as much as he wanted. Wrong on that score.
He's a control freak. He seemed incapable of delegating tasks and only seemed to want to work with people when he felt like it or if he wanted to. By and large he showed little interest in working with anyone outside the Savels.
[b]Why should he work with anybody if he doesn't want to? As an example, I'm not overly friendly with redneck. Am I going to go to him and say "Hey, wanna help me with a quest?", even if we're in the same alliance? It's not hard to ignore someone or something. For most people, anyways.[/b]

He openly fostered a belief in at least some of the Savels, that if they were in the alliance before the kingship elections, then they didn't have to recognise the king. For any leader of any group in Loreoot to do such a thing is unacceptable. I also found out that things I said concerning his members were either not passed on or twisted. And he insisted that he deal with his members, not me.
[b]Who cares about his beliefs? Lay down the law, don't stand there and "put up with him". There's a PM system and chat for speaking to people, you don't need to go through him. That's plain lack of effort on your part, if you really wanted to speak to them.[/b]

Activity of the Savels...
Towards the end of his tenure, there was little or none. Most of the members seemed inactive and at least one member seemed to spend more time outside the alliance than actually in it (not a personal dig by the way, merely the way things seemed).
[b]You want to talk about inactives? Grayhawk, White Reaper, Mysteria Blue (seemingly back, but still had a long absence), Siala Lone Wolf, Cross Swords and Mojomuppet (not 100% sure) in GotR, and I won't even mention the ones in CoE.
This is not intended as a shot at GotR or CoE, just don't complain about inactives if you've got plenty under your command.[/b]

When I booted him there was almost no reaction from them. Infact, some of them seemed completely oblivious to what had happened. Personally I was disappointed. I had expected more of a reaction, any reaction.
When Marv took over he tried to contact the members and got almost no response until he kicked people.
[b]Not everybody reads the forum, where it all happened, and as you said, many were inactive.[/b]

Savelite items....
Rhaegar aggressively sought the items that he felt belonged to the church. He was very insistent (to put it mildly) that they belonged to the church. Where are they now? He refused to return the ones he had to Marvolo, when Marvolo took over. I guess that they only belong to the church if Rhaegar is running it. Maybe it should be called the church of Rhaegar?
[b]Rhaegar bought the items with his own funds, I'm assuming. If another Muffin Man came along and replaced you without your permission, would you willingly give him your muffin-related items if you still considered muffins to be part of your role?[/b]

Alliance location..
Rhaegar himself stated to me very clearly that the Savels belonged in Loreroot and would never leave.
[b]Opinions change, get over it.[/b]

Savelite memorial....
Yeah, I find this a mixture of funny and sickening really. For starters it is really a homage to himself and one or two others, as well as a two fingered salute to myself and the rest of Loreroot. He's missing at least one name of an older member from that list and he has included names of people that had long gone before his demise and also some people that were barely there or did anything at all. The Savels are also not dead, so having a 'memorial' is in poor taste in my opinion.
[b]Marv's Savels were no better than what you seemingly believe Rhaegar's were, and Jazira's plans don't even look like the Savelite Church, they look like the Loreroot Church. Who really cares if he's missing a few names, or included some extra, just because? In the end, it's up to him who goes on, not you. If you disagree, talk to him about it, otherwise, keep your opinion of it to yourself.[/b]

The ultimate irony though, is that the alliance should have a memorial, because it should be put to bed in my opinion. But it seems that people in MD have an inability to let go of the past and move on. If this new incarnation of the alliance does not make something of itself it will be going to alliance heaven. Make no mistakes about it.
[b]Yey, threats to people who actually wish to see Savelites restored.[/b]

As for a memorial, that should be something that is done by the MD community (or at the very least the land of the alliance), not by one or two people with an axe to grind.
[b]So, instead of the former leader of the alliance in question, you'd rather either have everybody (most of the people in this group have never had anything to do with the alliance), or you (who has never been in the alliance) decide who goes on the list? Not to mention, of course, that NOBODY can dictate what who puts on clickables except Mur. You want something else for the memorial? Do it yourself.[/b]

Rhaegar had his chance. He blew it royally, so stop this nonsense of saying he should have it back. It is time to give someone else a chance or put the alliance to bed once and for all.
[b]Yeah, he blew it because of a personal issue between you and him. It was not because of all of that "abuse" you put up with, and it was not because he created an unofficial Lorerootian group without your permission. These things are easily ignored.[/b]
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Now, I don't know about the rest of the community, but I'm tired of hearing you ***** and moan and try to justify yourself. I am also VERY tired of hearing Marv spout off every time Rhaegar and the Savels are mentioned in the same paragraph. Everybody knows both of your positions and opinions on the subject already, so the only reasons I can see for these posts are attempts at justification or just pure hatred, and either way, both reasons make you a "blockhead with as much subtlety as a bull in a china shop", in my opinion.

My edits in bold.
Sorry for longpost/rant.

Happy Birthday little guy! [img]http://epicwinftw.files.wordpress.com/2010/07/baby-chewie-e1280519148305.jpg?w=500&h=422[/img]

Somewhere in the multiverse there might also exist an MD with player created quests, albeit a bit different. There's no reward for solving them in this universe, so you can post your solutions here, but do put spoiler tags around them!

[b]The Lost Message of the Confused guy who fell into the Fountain and drowned.[/b]
Your ounce sea -- late hears -- behind Lee.
Hints:
1.Think metric.
2.Latin is not French.
3.List of french verbs: être, avoir, ecouter, se taire, faire, entendre...
[i]What he really said was 'gurgle gurlge blub'[/i]

[b]A waste of time[/b]
[img]http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/1700/time.gif[/img]

[b]Emo Topaz and the Razor of Doom[/b]
[img]http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/377/topaz.jpg[/img]
[i]He's sad because his hints are redundant[/i]

[b]Yoshi's trip[/b]
[img]http://img52.imageshack.us/img52/8956/yoshic.jpg[/img]
Hint: yoshi

As you can probably tell by using your brain it has NOT continued. If you want you can ofc contact Tarq/anyone else

But i am closing this as it is over. they will start another one when/if it starts up again.

Mur, if you do decide to give up all of MD to see if it allows you to better find yourself, then leave someone in charge of it and go off. Please leave the community intact.

Awi

Liquid cooling ftw, much less of a shrapnel hazard. O.o In your arm though What happened?! I hope you are ok :s

Redhead - A Chemical Analysis

Element: Redhead
Symbol: RH
Atomic Weight: Accepted as 118, but known to vary 105-175.
Discoverer: It's debatable, some say Adam, but we now know, that only God could discover something so perfect!
Occurrence: Copious quantities in all Urban areas, with slightly lower concentrations in Suburban and Rural areas. Subject to seasonal fluctuations.

Physical Properties

1. Surface usually covered with minimal painted film. As a rule, not necessary.
2. Boils at everything, freezes without reason.
3. Melts if given special treatment.
4. Bitter if used incorrectly. Can cause headaches. Handle with care!
5. Found in various states; ranging from virgin metal to common ore.
6. Yields to pressure applied to correct points.

Chemical Properties

1. Has great affinity for Gold, Silver, Platinum and many precious stones.
2. Absorbs great quantities of expensive substances.
3. May explode spontaneously if left alone on dates.
4. Reactive in liquids, even more, increased activity when saturated in alcohol.
5. Repels cheap material. Neutral to common sense.
6. Most powerful money reducing agent known to Man.

Uses

1. Highly ornamental, especially in sports cars.
2. Can greatly improve hormonal levels.
3. Can warm and comfort under certain circumstances.
4. Incapable of cooling things down, when it's too hot.

Tests

1. Pure specimen turns rosy pink when discovered in natural state.
2. Turns green when placed beside a better specimen.

Caution

1. Highly dangerous except in experienced hands. Use extreme care when handling.
2. Illegal to possess more than one.

This might not be the right place, but in the Avatar shop it says:

There are currently 2 available gold avatars
Due to their rarity, only 2 gold avatars are visible at a time.

The thing is, I only see one (unicorn). So either I/everyone else should see both gold avatars, or there is only one gold avatar, or we should only see one gold avatar at a time.

EDIT:OK, so there are two confirmed gold avatars, some people see both, some see one... still no clue as to why.

[quote name='Yrthilian' date='11 August 2010 - 08:28 AM' timestamp='1281536904' post='65769']
now a new feature is going to be spoiled by people sticking their nose in places they should not.
The fact that this guild was just dumped in a land and no organisation was put in plave make this a very messy idea
the fact that even some memeber of that new guild are posiable filled with player alts is also another matter.
...
See now things are going to be made worse over a new feature that has just been released without organising
some sort of proper setup. I really think this could have been done in a much better way.
...
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Remember "Raising the shield against Cryxus"? The Caretakers had been formed in a similar way to this, except only one member was chosen. Phantasm had around a month before the events with Cryxus happened, if I remember correctly. Even though he had a structure, he had nothing going on, yet still people supported him, and he got the Caretakers back from Cryxus after it was taken over.
The Woodcutters haven't even all met each other, and yet there are already demands for it to have a structure? It's unbelievable to see these things coming from two of the people who are supposed to be leaders! Do we not learn anything from the past? Or do we just ignore the things we'd rather not remember, even if they're important?

So go do it in private, don't make this big deal about it, just get a couple of friends together and train! How hard is it? You don't need a specific location and rules and all that stuff!

[quote name='Firsanthalas' date='10 August 2010 - 05:09 AM' timestamp='1281431380' post='65565']
Aeon:- And seeing as you applied to a guild? Application considered very much withdrawn.

Wolfs:- I am not inclined to accept your invitation for now. You seem to jumping to conclusions, making accusations about people and quite abrasive. Maybe when you settle down a bit more we would consider you at a later date.
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I withdrew my apllication because of the new one I posted in another location. I'm not making any accusations. You could have spoken to me while I was there with you when I applied. But you would have rather had me gone through the proper channels which I did. After several days without a response I decided now might not have been the right time to apply for your alliance. I was told you were all very busy already anyway. Maybe you should settle down. I tried to be as polite and professional as possible.

Sorry Mur

I was working on the answer but i only had my Ipod on my for net access
internet is not good on it to be honest and a bit slow.
I am not finished my writings on it but if you wish i can still send it on
later just for though.

Note i am not a colladge persion or anything like that but
sometimes one does not need to be for a good answer

Just gonna take a wild guess or two;
You can't edit the text within the windows that pop up such as shops or attack interface
You can't edit what the arrows say after hovering over them for a second; "Tranquil Plains - (1Ap)"
You can't edit the poems that appear when you enter a new location
You can't edit location names
You can't edit information that shows up when you click on someone's name such as VP and Vit
etc.

Just some guesses, not official in any way >>

Not even all the Altars are sanctuaries, for example Wasps in Loreroot, and the Fenth in Marinds Bell.

EDIT: For what possible reason could this post have been given -3 rep? It shouldn't have been given + OR - rep

What's to stop someone from writing some neat stories, joining your alliance, getting WP codes, and then leaving without making a quest?

What I suggest is that if you do end up getting WP codes, either from a sponsor, or from Mur himself, that you only give them to people who have made a few quests already, and have convinced people to give them codes all on their own, so then you get people who are really dedicated, not just someone trying to bum some WP codes.


Sidenote: Kyphis, the best way to have a role or position "made", as you state it, is to do that role. Do you think Khalazdad became king of Necrovion by just sitting and waiting for Mur, or someone else to notice? Of course, the position of Master Archivist already exists, there's just nobody who's doing that at the moment. If you want it, be brave and take it, and if the community doesn't like it, they'll tell you.

forum rep is not in any way tied to the game afaik
go crazy with negative repping, it's da bomb!

[quote name='redneck' date='01 March 2010 - 04:34 PM' timestamp='1267479267' post='55587']
wait what did he do?
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You know when you log in, and you can suggest what happens next in the AL? Well he wrote something inappropriate in there.

I would remain at my current speed and hope I don't forget the lines

Oh yeah! Hallelujah! The truth has reached us and punched us in the noses! Marind is dead! Is a ghost!

Earth to Aysun:one of the mysteries is to find out who killed Marind.

dst, Aysun's post pertains to the posts that are above it. Stop trying so hard >>

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='10 July 2010 - 06:23 PM' timestamp='1278800611' post='63776']
....the idea about starting this was to listen to constructive feedback of people, not sentimental complaints and biased conservative, political posts. in the meantime I noticed I ain't gonna get what I was expecting so went on to the testing phase....
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You just didn't like/accept the criticism you received. The sparring grounds were awesome, I don't even know the rules of what to do now, there's no direction, no basic rules that are easy to understand. The sparring grounds was an easy concept, easy to grasp and understand. What you did to it, I don't feel was for the best, but for the worse.

Personally, the old sparring grounds was perfectly fine... I miss it >.>

okay i admit i haven't read every page but my personal experiences:

you go onto md at work during your lunch break

those close to you say you've become a stranger (this happened for the first few weeks i played)

those close to you say to you "STILL playing that game?"

people start telling you to go do something else like watch tv or play on the playstation

you start referring to animals in the rl realm as creatures in md realm

a family member hears the message sound and says to you 'oh! you've got another message' & they ask who is writing to you

you start talking like your character in rl realm (yes i sometimes talk to bf like i do in md realm, i even said to mama lepus one time "but am only FOUR!!!")

you eat your food by the computer to spend more time on md

When you're playing Zelda and you can't help but say grasan instead of goron >>

Lol, I seen the official wallpapers back in December and I made one myself. I used it for a month or so lol.

http://storenow.net/my/?f=1272

Sent it in to Mur but it was never accepted, took me only like 20 mins though so w/e, not heartroken over it XD

I think the idea of doing wallpapers is fine, but charging for it isn't right since pictures are not your orginal work. If someone wants to donate for the time used, then sure, other than that, no.


EDIT:OR... royalty per wallpaper or something, somehow goes to Mur...