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Ok, maybe I should give some more info on illusions and their tags so people would understand what we're dealing with at the moment. There are lots of illusions and they can be combined. This results in quite a big number of tags and descriptions (I've notice that for example a description is applied to several different tags - I don't know how the code is but looks like some sort of a combination). If you really start playing with them you'll end up with a sh***load of tags which are not unique or original (check the bots and you might find your illusion tag/description attached to one of them). Do we want this? Personally, I prefer tags that make me part of a group (like the Sky Scouter or the land militia) or my own tags. I don't really see a potential role that could derive from such a thing but then...maybe I am blind and not creative enough :P. Anyway, if you need more info, ask. If I can I will provide it.

You could skip fang. He has no idea of what/how/when.

I found the tag I had while using an illusion on the tags page. Everything gained while in illusions should reset once you exit. So...bug? Or feature?

And your own theory doesn't contain spoilers? I asked for transparency reasons. But if you don't care about that then let the players know so they should not expect fairness.

Post the submissions as well.

So this entire thread quotes skype convos?

@DD: So you do admit that you did wrong. THIS is what I wanted to highlight. You have admin powers and no idea how to use them. I shall keep an eye on you and every time you do something bad, I'll write on the forum. @Mur: mad at me? Why? I didn't RUIN your quest. I took a different road than the one you have designed. SS took a different one than the one I took (so basically there were 2 more aside from yours). You accused me yesterday of lack of creativity. Right now I am not so sure about my creativity level being as low as I thought...

So now you say that you knew about the purpose of the ghosts while in the other topic (I will link it later) you said you were clueless. Make up your mind! + the fact that you HAVE tampered with a quest that was NOT yours makes you highly unreliable. What guaranty do I have that if for example I create a quest using the new features, you'll not help your buddies (oh...wait...you don't have those cause everybody hates you) someone randomly for random reason just because you can or because you think my quest has a bug? Will continue later cause not i need to run for work.

I said "I dare to say it's not even an exploit". Read my update. It IS common knowledge. You just don't know how to apply it. Is that my fault that you lack the connections? Or that you lack someone (like I have No one) to enlighten you?

There is a need for a blame game since the one screwing up is the one recently invested with powers and the one claiming he would never abuse powers or make mistakes. I repeat: He interfere with a quest which was not his by altering what was supposed to be the blocking stone of this quest. He didn't do it at the beginning but long after. From what I get the admin powers he got are very...powerful. I don't trust dd not to mess things up and then claim he: - didn't know - was a bug he thought to fix it - is clueless - lies - does stuff only to brag and show off DIDN'T PLAY FAIR? From what tree have you fallen? The way I passed (actually the way No one passed cause he dragged me) is NOT a bug. It's a thing ANYONE can do if they have the slightest knowledge of...internet browsing.

As for unfairness: what if one of the people that passed when there was no ghost had 19 points and I would have had 18 (19 with the obelisk behind ghosts)? That person would have won while I would have lost.

You always have the option NOT to read them. And just because you had no idea how to escape Aeo's avatar doesn't mean others were the same. dd was given some powers and he used them in the worst possible way. He interfered in a quest which was not his because he THOUGHT there was a bug there. He wouldn't know a bug if he'd bite him. Yet he chose to mess with the quest because he wanted to brag about it. He should NEVER be given admin powers. He has no idea how to handle them and his attitude will make him do mistake after mistake. I don't want to reach the point where I cannot complete a quest/ create a quest/etc of fear that one noob like dd would ruin in.

Found a new one: constant refresh at regular intervals. Why? Oh why???? It's soo annoying especially if I am doing something else in the browser I have MD opened :(.

So now you're calling Mur a liar? He said this morning that february's avatar was there for a reason. there=blocking the arrow

O.o and what on earth gave you the right to modify it then???? What if I make a quest that looks "bugged" to you??? Will you interfere and fix it??? Are you INSANE???

Exactly, you removed it AFTER. And you modified a quest when it was not over. This is why you suck at quests: you have no idea how to handle them. And you took matters into your own hands. And you didn't test before (you never bothered to check if the ghosts are removed in the presence of the player although you are part of the "a25 project"). Or are you there only for the freebies and "reputation" and bragging ?

And it wasn't unfair for me, No one and SS? Didn't you think that if we passed there must be a way? So you just decided: freebies for everyone since some idiots (meaning me and No one, SS is excluded :P) that I hate already passed so why bother? Besides you were happy I didn't win so screw the quest!

Ahahahahahaha!!! This coming from a former LHO who was supposed to KNOW how to at least spot and REPORT bugs. Again GG!!!

But you had the nerve to contradict me. And to jump to wrong conclusions. You thought it was a bug but you had no confirmation from the one who placed the ghosts in the first place. And you STILL took the decision to alter some scenes IN THE MIDDLE OF A QUEST! Nicely done dd! That shows how mature and knowledgeable you are.GG!

I don't know what you have talked to Mur but this is what he said this morning: @Mur: sent you PM with an update about how we passed the avatar. It's DEFO not a bug. I dare to say it's not even an exploit.

I told you the whole story but not on the forum since I do agree that how I pass it was not how it was meant to be. But that's not a bug. You hid the arrow but the action remained. So I call it an exploit (which I reported). And don't take dd's side even if he's your pet. You said it yourself that the way to remove february is to bring him there or impersonate him. Both me and SS used our MD knowledge to bypass that obstacle. After we managed, he removed the avy for the rest. You find that fair? I don't.

Last obelisk could not be access by normal means (unless you had a bring in to summon february but even with that I still don't know if it would have worked). Also, after both me and SS got pass february's ghost, DD removed the avatar covering the scene. Which I find it highly unfair. Now, about shop skills: this has been done before: this is how me, No one and Eon got enough gardening skills to be able to get the buckets. @Clock: by the time you posted on mood panel that you're after 13th, I already had 14.

Actually you didn't say it. I didn't believe the 20th existed until I saw it (it was a lucky shot to ask someone to tele me there). As for you DD, former LHO who should have known better, you jumped to conclusions BEFORE hearing and analyzing the facts. Oh and nice reply: http://imgur.com/4GXw1ZL

No, he didn't. He misses one.

I have them: found all 20 obelisks. http://imgur.com/k2bK6Pj