Udgard

Btw, just to confirm, bursts are also a no-no, right?

[quote name='Fire Starter' timestamp='1300694601' post='80981'] Sign me in, an MP5. Just one question: What qualifies for a magic creature? [/quote] I think Burns is referring to magic spells and effects, not to a creature type

Udgard Mp 5

I know you're just doing a price check on some of the creatures, but if you happen to sell it, I bid 2 SC for the TS.

Alternatively, if the person has a forum account and quite actively checks it, you can try PM-ing them in the forum.

[quote name='Rumi' timestamp='1300162977' post='80663'] Big thanks to Udgard for explanation of RP Reality Requirement (even though it was apparently quoted from another thread). [/quote] You are welcome, and it's actually quoted from the Announcement (can't remember if Mur did a post on it as well).

[quote name='Sharazhad' timestamp='1300138908' post='80650'] [color="#2e8b57"][i]Sweet Jaysis!!!!!!!!!! My little RP did not break game mechanics. My original idea for the taint was to create some sort of strain of taint. We steered away from black water and liquid dust because it was involved game mechanics. Fair enough I can respect that. BUT I dont see how bringing up a strain of the original taint again is spitting in the face of a player who left MD and I as far as we know is not gonna return The flood was originally set as a stage, something were people could branch of all kinds of RP from. It was was born out of frustration because NOBODY Rp's anymore - At that time everyone just sat in the park and ground for ridiculous stats. I would have loved it, if loads of people got involved in this RP and loads of people contributed to finding a solution (thats why the sludge and floods discussion thread was set up) . I can count on one hand the number of people that were actually arsed to contribute to the discussion. I find it really ironic that the people who did not bother to take part in this at all, are those that creating such a huge fuss!!! Seriously, dont criticise my attempt at injecting life into the game if you didnt bother to acknowledge it all.... [/i][/color] [/quote] Shara, I think there's a reason why some people who did not bother to take part is the one creating a huge fuss. It's simple: they do not approve of what you do. If they don't approve of what you do, there's no reason for them to join, right? I agree that using black water and liquid dust without complete knowledge on what they are is a bad idea. Using them means you will need to RP what they do/what effect they have, and without knowledge on what they do, chances are you're gonna give off the wrong thing. Using the taint, on the other hand, is much more acceptable since they are not an inherent part of MD. They are made by players, and modification by players to a certain extent is acceptable IMHO, as long as the original creator does not mind. Now, one problem is that the whole situation is not even clear. Who is in charge of/started this storyline? Mya? Firs? You? What is being used in the RP? Black water? Liquid Dust? The Taint? From Mya's comment black water, liquid dust and the taint was never going to be used. Yet throughout the whole "quest" there are lots of people who think they are being used. Inevitably, you are going to get a lot of people who won't bother joining it because they do not agree with the use of the first two. Even if now it is cleared (by Mya - but again, I do not know for sure who is in charge of this whole thing) that they were never part of it. And then, there is the part where Loreroot is said to be flooded. How is this not breaking game mechanics? It's like saying a meteor fell on marind bell and now the whole place is scorched with hellfire. Mechanic wise, there is this little thing called RP Reality Requirement. Having a flood might be acceptable for 2-3 people, but when you want to do something that affects a lot of people, then the requirements are hard. While this is originally used for scenes in-game, the same logic can be applied if you're attempting a game-wide quest. [quote] - intimate: 2 or less people, rp is unrestricted, reality is irrelevant between two people if both accept the fantasy. - loose: 2 to 5 people, rp can go wild but common sense is required. As long as the other few accept it, most things are ok. - moderate: 5 to 10 people, rp is considered real only if it is based on proof or good logic. Your avatar may give you elements to support that logic, your inventory items, a very well established role in a clear and distinct activity, things in the current location/scene, abilities you posess. - strict: 10 to 30 people, only real things, unrefusable to anyone present. These are the things you can do based on your actual abilities such as spells or special interfaces, actions supported by your inventory items, fights, and other interface supported actions. Simple logic without a real base to support it is not enough to form reality under this level. - real only: 30 or more, in large groups, only what you can do in such way that is undeniable by anyone observing it, can pass as reality. What you do under this level should stricter than the strict level and as real as it can get, so that nobody can say or think "no you couldnt possibly do that" or "you are making things up".[/quote] Now I think this would answer the question below as well: [quote]Back to the original topic: This related to the sludge, and I though the effort was valid, if allowed to continue and had it gained support. Some veterans seem to think otherwise.[/quote] If it had gained enough support, I think it the whole thing can certainly turn valid. But if there is so much opposition and relatively little support, then the opposite is true. And I would also like to remind that MD, AFAIK, has never been designed as a true sandbox, freeform RP platform. If anything, MD even said at one time (might still do) is a unique world, different with others where you won't find the standard fantasy game things like demons or orcs. Something with its own unique setting. It can function as one now, with RP reality requirement telling you that you can do anything just between limited number of people. But when it comes to the mass, there are limits to what you can and can't do.

Happy birthday!

Ud's stamp of approval.

To sum up what tarq said: The first type is playing a [u]role [/u]while keeping the character pretty much yourself (the player). For this type there is no distinction between IC and OOC. The second one is playing a [u]character[/u], sometimes including different personality as well. This one is what is commonly used in some RP games (play by post, play by email, and tabletops) but as MD didn't start with that kind of approach, you might find some problem at times as the first type doesn't separate IC and OOC and this type does. But so far the two has been able to coexist to some degree (they haven't started killing each other.. much) so pick whichever suits you best

Happy birthday!

My condolences. May you be given strength.

Ridiculous how people would neg rep the first post..

I know I had shop resets available (2 I think) when I first started. Might have changed over the time though..

[quote name='Fyrd Argentus' timestamp='1298915875' post='79724'] Welcome, Burke. One word of advice - try not to claim to have supernatural powers that you can't back up with actual game mechanics [s]or strong role-playing in chat.[/s] It looks silly. [/quote] +1 to what fyrd said. Well, I'd personally go a step further and scratch the strong roleplaying in chat part, as anyone can roleplay having a power. But all talk but no mechanics supporting behind it is totally silly IMHO.

Hi, I will try to answer some of the questions you have. Others will certainly come and fill in where I cannot provide an answer. Are there specific native races to the MD world? Do I have to choose one of these for an RP character? Am I required to RP? Am I required to do my own character art? [i]There are no specific races native to the MD world, in fact back a few years ago no one really played any races. We are just humans (well, there were people who played a dog, but that's 1 in a 1000 ). You are not required to choose any race for an RP character, feel free to play just a normal human (taking into account the strange circumstance that our character finds him/herself at the beginning of the story mode). There are no requirement to RP, at least not in the sense of traditional RP games where you need to play a completely different character. Play a role, not a character! There is an avatar shop that you can access so you are not required to make your own character art, however you can also choose to do one yourself and it might be approved to be used as your own personal avatar.[/i] What's the best way for me to solve quests or find clues? [i]Really depends on the type of quests, but mostly either asking around (there are some quests that would require you to do so, be careful as some quest creator may prohibit this and see it as cheating though. Just make sure with the quest giver 1st) or internet research/googling.[/i] Are there NPCs, or is the world occupied by pre-set triggers and other players only? [i]There are a very small number of NPCs that you can fight (for just one battle each), but 99% of the game is player interaction.[/i] How do *you* contact other players inside or outside of the game? [i]You can private message a player, however to do so you need to click on their name, meaning you have to meet the person first. You don't need to see the person directly though, players leave 'footprints'; their name will stay on a spot for a few hours after they pass. You can also click on that footprint and you will be able to choose to message them. Once they replied, you can keep their PM so you can reply to them again anytime. Another method is by contacting the person via this forum's PM feature, that is, if that player checks the forum often though.[/i] I've noticed there are groups, clans, associations, guilds, what have you. Where are these found? How do you join? How do you choose? [i]You join by contacting the member of the group and applying (or applying on their subforum). You can see a brief description of these guilds/alliances on the subforum for each of them. Do note that most groups have a criteria for accepting people, and here we have a mentality that people should join only if they are interested in the guilds/alliances' cause, not just for the sake of being in an alliance. There really isn't much [/i]other advantage you get by joining one and there are risks involved, so don't rush to join one unless you are sure you're gonna like being in there. Yeah. So. Tons of basic n00b questions, and I don't know where to look for answers. [i]Don't worry, we're all new once, and you'll find a lot of people willing to help around here [/i]

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1298380382' post='79310'] but i already said that, the nothing is balanced by the everything. The concepts are hard to understand and even harder to play with. My balance model is 2481 with duality as a start and unity as a result... now i am having a hard time to find a way to describe what i would call now "the causing result" . what i mean is that things start actually with their end and expand backwards in time to cause their roots in reality. In that sense , one=complete, dual=base. I wish i could say more but i dont want to spoil the best parts before i find a way to write them better...and also to find a way to avoid religious touch because thats probably the biggest pitfall in such things. Think of the words "god is one" for example, it actually means exactly that in my opinion. 1 equals zero and is the counterbalance of it, like in full vs empty. dengerous concepts, very very dangerous, because so far all the "logic" is i may call it so points to one answer too few are ready to understand and might be mistaken with nihilism. [/quote] Yeah, I was making sure I got it right =b The theory of something starting with the end and expanding backwards (is this the result of that theory you have of Mur making stuff in the happen past so it will come to being in the future?) actually reminds me of the belief in destiny/fate. That everything is already fated/destined actually fits with your theory, if we see it the "predetermined" end as being "predetermined" because it is the first to exist/the start, and thus the end which is the past will inevitable reach there. Makes me think though, if there is an end which is the start and the start which is the end, then at the absolute middle point between those, what exists? (the present maybe?) If we think of the process as a straight line, then it is just the middle of the line, but if we think of it as a circle/cycle, then the middle point would be.. the center of the circle?

I'm with the bun-buns, of course.

By your logic that nothing [i]is [/i]one, then would it be that one is not balanced by itself per se, but nothing needs something to balance it. As is, the nothing that represents everything that isn't needs the everything/infinity that is, right?

It's very easy to implement. It possibly brings good results. Why not? I vote yes.

What I find strange is not the vitality damage (which is totally normal), but that you lose heat while on unfamiliar land.. That might have been a bug (unless you have negative briskness, which might have something to do with that).

Of course I'd like to see team bunny vs team drach, a competition to end all the unfinished rivalry! Too bad RJ's seems not to be around anymore.. =(

Well, not exactly. While it does sound logical, the point to having raw materials in real item form is that you can't just sac a creature to get it. So, unfortunately the answer is no =(

Actually, I don't see any problem with trading beastiaries either. [quote name='announcement'] You may also trade the bestiary as any other item, allow others to place creatures in it, or even hold multiple bestiary books at the same time. [/quote] How much were you betting again?

Okay, just sharing my opinions here.. 1. I don't think there's anything wrong here. People have traded drach mutation services, aramor to joker mutation services, and items that were made from WPs (not the freely given one). Heck, people have even sold TS for a price (which access requires a WP), and sold uses of their spell. I think it is perfectly legal to trade the things you get from a WP, as long as you're not trading the WP itself. 2. I can understand number two as well, I get where you got the reasoning and at a glance it seems perfectly fine (Brulant summarized the case well here). HOWEVER, there is one thing that makes me thing this should not be done (aka illegal) which you might have not realized. When you do this, the person you pay back the WP to will have some otherwise unattainable bonus; their amount of earned WP would increase by one (not sure about the spent WP, my guess is it would too) which means [u]they can go further inside the wishshop without spending any effort gaining more WPs[/u]. And for the sake of bragging rights, they get +1 on the wishpoints top list. Hence, I don't think this should be done. Otherwise, once the precedent is set, we'll start seeing abuse to unlock the shop using "trade" as an instrument. If you want to reimburse the WP, you could do so by offering to use your WP if the person wants to make an item in the future, or mutate a drach/colorless joker for them. Stuff that consumes your WP instead of them, just like what you're asking right now, but no directly reimbursing them a WP.