Chewett

I have went through them all and added comments where iv changed things, please comment on them back. The comments can be quickly stripped with a quick command (I can show you that if you dont know it, so use them!) Please add these into the document if approved, or question then individually if there is an issue with my reasoning. My changes follow an email exchange with Mur and his above post. ---- { "titles": [ { "title": "MDA Land Leader", "recipient": "Kyphis", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //reason: Mur grants land leader "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Seed Keeper", "recipient": "Handy Pockets", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "King of Necrovion", "recipient": "Azull", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Queen of Necrovion", "recipient": "Peace", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Leader of the Underground", "recipient": "dst", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Bug Catcher", "recipient": "dst", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": "Chewett" } }, { "title": "Watching You", "recipient": "dst", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null //removed me, Why would I confirm this? } }, { "title": "Judge", "recipient": "dst", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Judge", "recipient": "Ailith", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Judge", "recipient": "Granos", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Chief Voidling", "recipient": "Granos", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "The King's Bard", "recipient": "Ary Endleg", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Azull", "confirming authority": "Peace" } }, { "title": "Tainted", "recipient": "Assira the Black", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Granos", "confirming authority": "Ailith" } }, { "title": "MDA Land Leader", "recipient": "darkraptor", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Gardener of MDA Garden", "recipient": "Kempiniukas", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Kyphis", "confirming authority": "Handy Pockets" } }, { "title": "Vigilant Guardian", "recipient": "Intrigue", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Zleiphneir", "confirming authority": "Peace" //reasons: why? } }, { "title": "Freelance Artist", "recipient": "gonzalocsdf", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //mya and BFH do not fit here, Mur "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Garden Keeper", "recipient": "Menhir", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Handy Pockets", "confirming authority": "Zleiphneir" } }, { "title": "Consul of Loreroot", "recipient": "Mya Celestia", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Water Dowser Leader", "recipient": "nadrolski", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Princ Rhaegar", "confirming authority": "Handy Pockets" } }, { "title": "King of Marind Bell", "recipient": "Princ Rhaegar", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Code Guardian", "recipient": "Chewett", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Former Queen of Marind Bell", "recipient": "Handy Pockets", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": "Princ Rhaegar" } }, { "title": "Former King of Marind Bell", "recipient": "Chewett", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": "Princ Rhaegar" } }, { "title": "Avatar Manager", "recipient": "Neno Veliki", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //NOT BFH OR AZULL PEOPLE, MUR "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Master Advertiser", "recipient": "BFH", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Seedwalker", "recipient": "Rophs", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Handy Pockets", "confirming authority": null //not grido, give reasons if you want to nominate } }, { "title": "King of Golemus Golemicarum", "recipient": "Grido", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Head LHO", "recipient": "Grido", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "DracHorn Master", "recipient": "Burns", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null //NOT BFH } }, { "title": "Ardent Knight", "recipient": "Burns", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": "Shadowseeker" //shouldnt it be the other way around? SS granted, mur confirms? } }, { "title": "LHO Second in Command", "recipient": "Burns", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Grido", "confirming authority": null //NOT BFH } }, { "title": "Knight of the Hunt", "recipient": "Shadowseeker", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Resurrected Corpse", "recipient": "Lazarus", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Granos", "confirming authority": "Peace" } }, { "title": "Protector of Golemus", "recipient": "MRD", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //Grido/burns too young, needs to be Murry "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Former Leader of the MR's", "recipient": "MRD", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //Grido too young, NOT BFH, needs to be Murry "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "MR's Commander", "recipient": "MRAlyon", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //Grido too young, Not MRD as inactive, needs to be Murry "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Judge", "recipient": "Granos", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Abetter", "recipient": "No one", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //Mur gave it not dst "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Co Leader of the Treasure Keepers", "recipient": "Pipstickz", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //No it was council not BFH "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "MasterChief", "recipient": "phantasm", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null //granos isnt involved with this } }, { "title": "Leader of KoB", "recipient": "Rikstar", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Princ Rhaegar", "confirming authority": null //no SS as that doesnt fit with plans } }, { "title": "Child of Necrovion", "recipient": "Syrian", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Peace", "confirming authority": "Azull" } }, { "title": "Guardian's Echo", "recipient": "WHIsper", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Zleiphneir", "confirming authority": "Intrigue" } }, { "title": "Guardian of Bob", "recipient": "Zleiphneir", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Concierge", "recipient": "Miq", "authorities": { "granting authority": "BFH", //REASONS: ???? "confirming authority": "phantasm" } }, { "title": "Former Boss Heads Master", "recipient": "Eon", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "Son of the Storms", "recipient": "Marvolo", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //Mur gave this out "confirming authority": null } }, { "title": "King Guard", "recipient": "Clock Master", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Princ Rhaegar", "confirming authority": "Rikstar" } }, { "title": "Sky Scouter", "recipient": "AmberRune", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", //Mur gave this out "confirming authority": null } } ] }

I have discussed my concerns with Mur and he should reply shortly.

You didnt actually reply to one of the more important comments regarding why some decisions where made. Really you should include a logical reason why X can sign for Y. Then we can disucss the things easier than just looking and not understanding why choices were made. Are you just reviewing and deciding if you like the feedback? I dont see anyone actually being told yes/no with their feedback. --- Now onto the actaual format, requiring two signitories, Mur is trying to force one system into another. In your example of "avatar master" "master artist" is entirely correct, and there is no way you can do that if you want to follow how things actually developed if you dont want to take into account council. Its all well and good saying "this will create a social structure" but when you randomly create it and not make it follow how the social structure was created, then you are going to make something that wont mean anything. At a push I could sign for artesian since I and council discussed we needed some people, and the people we selected... but thats all. It looks like you are just making BFH a GM, so I congratulate him on his new position.

Question: Who added BFH to everything? It appears like people just randomly added friends of those who had tags... You should take each tag based on how they were given and how it fits in. Aka all the most recent authorities such as tk and avatar people are council, not Mur or BFh... The alliance leaders should get tags from kings, Kings should from counci unless they are old kings, in which case Mur. Some land members should get tags from kings. Misc tags mostly come from Mur or council.

Furthermore to the above point, You should make all alliance member "titles" follow the same pattern of confirmation. Aka confirmation 1, land leader. confirmation 2: second land leader/none { "title": "Sky Scouter", "recipient": "AmberRune", "authorities": { "granting authority": null, "confirming authority": null } } Mur granting auth ----- { "title": "Former Boss Heads Master", "recipient": "Eon", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, confirm: council ----- { "title": "MasterChief", "recipient": "phantasm", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": "Granos" } }, Not granos, he isnt "in charge of phantam" to confirm ---- { "title": "Co Leader of the Treasure Keepers", "recipient": "Pipstickz", "authorities": { "granting authority": "BFH", "confirming authority": "Chewett" } }, granting council, BFH and I were not involed --- { "title": "Abetter", "recipient": "No one", "authorities": { "granting authority": "dst", "confirming authority": null } }, granting Mur ----- { "title": "Resurrected Corpse", "recipient": "Lazarus", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Granos", "confirming authority": "Peace" } }, peace, lol no ---- { "title": "LHO Second in Command", "recipient": "Burns", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Grido", "confirming authority": "BFH" } }, BFH no, council told grido he needed a second in command as he was so inactive ---- { "title": "DracHorn Master", "recipient": "Burns", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": "BFH" } }, BFH no --- { "title": "King of Golemus Golemicarum", "recipient": "Grido", "authorities": { "granting authority": "Muratus del Mur", "confirming authority": null } }, Grido never aksed council to confirm his appointment, so its unoffical atm FYI ---- { "title": "Avatar Manager", "recipient": "Neno Veliki", "authorities": { "granting authority": "BFH", "confirming authority": "Azull" } }, BFH NO Azull NO ----- It seems you keep adding BFH as a second in command for most things... dont. The doc is widely wrong here guys.... you just seem to add BFH for everything and then random other people.

agreed, but im not looking into fixing Mur hacks atm, Im trying to finish some of the many bigger projects he never finished

Why would SS, a non MB citizen confirm a MB alliance position?

thats how those things work. They by default have a continue button because Mur hacked some interface together and its rubbish.

Maybe not valid in your opinions, but If I said I dont want to give my address for undisclosed reasons, so what?

There was a post I made about the tag system a while ago I believe. Some searching would find it I think. Could be some stuff in announcements too.

Mur is organising this, not me FYI and not all those that help lots of things with the game have lots of money. Iv only ever a small amount into the game. Forcing someone to give over personal details and ridiculing them by visually burning their things? Thats poor Murry. What If I said I didnt want you to know who I was, or know my address, or my life? Would you demean me and such?

We have a review every now and then, we do not change it and then fix it forever. It was changed before you came here, and it shall change after you leave. I keep asking the community every now and then.

Tis moved.

Dont end a quest slating people who didnt understand, or were not able to comprehend what you wanted to happen. Perhaps you were not clear as you originally thought. Know there will always be people who can excel at one task or other, but dont end your quest being condescending, it puts a damper on proceedings.

Yeah... I was promised one of them too. Oh well.

Thats flash crashing in some way.

Put it in between two strong pieces of card and it should be fine.

EDIT: I mean I understand why we arnt pouring money into it now because of A25, but I always have some issues with using MD's money for more random things. Its yours, you can do what you want with it, but if it means that when A25 is done we dont have money, im a little unsure. As for "this will make MD have a social structure" we already have one, adding paper titles wont make it any more offical. Its a fun idea and I hope you enjoy it Murry, just ensure we have monies to cover the server fees and for some ads later :)

No. If we have the coin for this, why are we not spending it on advertising?

Those errors pop up when flash stops responding. Over the weekend I can try and look into coding it so that it just fails silently, but thats probably not a good idea since you will then question why nothing works. Or recoding it to reconnect to the flash object or do some wookie magic. The problem is, is that I dont have a mac to test it on and all the ones at work are upgraded to the latest version because of the work we do needs the latest stuff. Furthermore I wont be getting a mac anytime soon to then have a testbench. I will look into what I can do but with nothing to test and replicate the error it its quite hard. I have a couple ideas to kill flash and then debug that but your OS not permitting upgrades is poor and I really dislike apple for them doing things like that.

*Grido* - Moving, mostly inactive but probably still deserves a title Shadowseeker - Inactive, when was the last time you saw him? My inactivity measure (the one in code) counts his score barely in double digits, whereas others is in 4 plus digits... *Peace* - Does she still play? havent seen her in a while Zleiphneir - he is inactive and left the game *Sunfire* - Consul of Loreroot (inactive according to http://magicduel.inv...k/#entry153211) Awiiya - Inactive and left the game I believed Max Mortlock - I thought he left/became completely inactive --- These are people who, if you wanted to apply activity to the title giving, should not get a title.

Lets start again: What do people think should be in it :)

I would put a silver coin in.

Chewett and dst, we wont appear ofc since we are busy, but run the quest :)

cleared out my tabs a bit and reduced the number somewhat