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    Ivorak reacted to Sephirah Caelum in Rebel Rule   
    *edit* Keeping the chat with Azull:

    [quote]and more creative ways to punish rebels while keeping their purpose as a rebel.[/quote]

    The rebel tag could have a time frame, and this tag
    will expire if the rebel do not get more citizens to
    his cause.

    For each citizen added for the cause, no alt, the
    duration of the tag will become longer, untill the
    half of the number of citizens be reached, with that
    the time frame won't work anymore and now, the king and
    his supporters will have to take a move: war, elections
    or negotiate with the rebels.

    [quote]anonimous but public complain system, addressed to the king (only to him), is something i agree it could be usefull. not many have the courage to speak their mind freely, but their ideas might be usefull. It also prevents the king from saying no just because of his ego.

    For now see how yould manage that with what it is...untill i figure something like a feature for it.[/quote]


    This idea is completely imperfect but is everything that
    me and Azull was able to come in the end. We are posting
    because that has the chance to someone else has a better
    idea with this imperfect suggestion.

    A person could be named to be the bridge from
    the citizen who wants complaining and the
    king/government. With that said citizen can complaining with
    the Bridge, and this person could talk with the king of the
    land, in the name of the anonimous citizen.

    This idea goes on, but has teh chance to become a new feature,
    so we stop to say it at this point.

    PS: [size="3"][b]we know this confidant has to be a special person, who is
    trusted by the people[/b][/size]
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    Ivorak reacted to Sephirah Caelum in Rebel Rule   
    [quote]next to be done is a way to see percentage of discontent in a land[/quote]

    This came after a talk with Azull:

    Mya's idea is good, but the king has the right to know
    the reason why people are unhappy with his governement,
    therefore for this purpose could be used the Post Office
    system, that Chewett placed in front of the Willow shop a
    while ago. Once this allows the citizen find the king's
    ears even when he is not on the pre-rebel's Friend list.

    The person receiving the letter could be named by King
    if he is very busy.
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    Ivorak reacted to Sephirah Caelum in Water Handling, Guild Or What?   
    Instead of creating a guild that is occupied only with water, why not have freelancers whom that besides taking care to collect and purify water also engage in making beverages such as soda and other alcohol?

    And the drinks could be as consumable items. Having one manufacturer responsible for each land, so that each one would have the opportunity to produce its own and different beverages, with the characteristics of that land, made with properties of its own environment.

    And the different lands could exchange their consumables with each other, regulated by international laws of trade or just like is made with the Sunny Bedroom keys.

    Of course, everything combined with the water related matters as well, like purifing and handling.
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    Ivorak reacted to Jubaris in Rebel Rule   
    I dislike that military take overs ain't possible.

    So called "diplomacy" falls down to having people that are relatively close to Mur that can lobby to force some kind of change, and so called "diplomacy" has nothing to do with the gameplay. Rebels are supposed to fill some kind of non-written requirements so their demands can be fulfilled... pfff.
    Please make some basic rules on what can be expected of the feature without divine intervention.

    I think that the possibility of a military take over should be possible, also it can be used in land wars (most probably and for the best as well is that all kings maintain some kind of status quo when its about territory issues, but it is pretty logical that in an RP world that tries to make realistic environment and feedback it should be allowed for some King to mark his new territory and kick all the rest who defy him if he's strong enough to)

    I just find this "king immunity" concept ridiculous... Kings of certain groups are chosen from those groups, and it is up to the people to follow the person... To overthrow (if have enough power to) or serve if they want... But the system favors the king rather than any other group.
    Those roles shouldn't be called Kings at least, but Moderators of Mainlands.
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    Ivorak reacted to Seigheart in Rebel Rule   
    I fail to see the reasoning behind those who are rebelling(totally a pun ) against the 4 hour chat ban.

    If you are rebelling against your king, the king has absolute power over you while you are a citizen of their Land. That means, if he wished it, you would be beheaded. This is not a democrasy people. It's a dictatorship(technically a monarchy, but you get the idea). Yes, the Kings were elected at first, but the Kingship is now being passed along to people of the King's choosing. Yes, the King has to choose wisely or the populace will replace him, but still is a Monarchy/Dictatorship.

    When the King says "Jump." You don't sit there and debate with him whether or not you should do it, you immediately do it.

    I don't know if this is just me, but the King's need powers to enforce their rules. The populace needs an official way to dethrone a King. Instead of whining about how long a chatban is, ask yourselves who are you planning on overthrowing that it could effect you. Don't annoy the King, and don't become a Traitor to the Land. If you wish to rebel, don't get caught. It's not rocket science.

    ~Vic
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    Ivorak reacted to Amoran Kalamanira Kol in Avatar Shop   
    Information about a few of the avatars:

    Avatar 1 - "Weapon Master Aleron": This avatar was drawn by GlorDamar to represent Aleron, the weapon master/weapon crafter. However, it can truly be representative of anyone. In Glor's opinion, when he showed it to me before it was released, he commented that it was one of his better bits of artwork.

    Avatar 2 - "The wolf": this avatar was drawn by a very old and very respected artisan named Morrel. It is one of the older avatars in the game and one of the few submitted by him.

    Avatar 3 - "Smiling Fairy": This avatar is a generation 6 avatar, and I believe it was from a commissioned set by an artist outside of MD. I'm uncertain of this though, I tried to find information regarding the generation 6 set quite some time ago and had very little luck.

    As to the value of avatars, it's surely understandable that you have spent a long while gathering these, and that you may have dipped into your own funds to get them, but I would still consider the general value of an avatar. The avatars you buy in the shop are worth one credit, to sell them to the shop, you are given 3 credits. I'm not sure what this would process to in gold/silver/coin, but do keep the prices somewhat fair if you intend to sell them.

    Normally I would not agree to this sort of 'buying and selling' at all, but I am glad to see some of the more detailed works being revealed.

    These artists no doubt worked hard to create these, and I have said and will always say, let them be viewed.
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    Ivorak reacted to Yrthilian in Rebel Rule   
    Look you are trying to be a smart ass about this topic.
    The kingship has responded to the anouncment in here and you come along and say stop moaning.

    You tried to be smart in other peoples responce
    I have an opinion about your statment and with what and how you say it
    If you dont like it well not my problem

    In regards to the word i use and what you expect well that too is your problme
    The forum is for out of game responces and not my character in game unless otherwise stated.
    This is easly recognised by me useing the king sig i have for offical Golemus anouncments.

    you also point to what you think is fact in regards to the kingship. when the post you point to does
    NOT say what the king is and what they do it outlines some of what a king is. The king has not been
    granted the ablities promises for the position but the king does work with the staff to get things done.

    There is a precemtion in the realm that kings have all thies great ablities and can change things on a whim
    well we cant we do not have all the extra ablities people assume we have and we are as in the dark when things happen
    in MD. this was a fact stated in public and it is said stop moaning.

    This is now starting to turn into a sensles topic. started with sencless replies.
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    Ivorak reacted to Ravenstrider in New Queen Of Necrovion   
    [quote name='Malaikat Maut' timestamp='1289397619' post='71828']
    The actions of a king or a leader should never be, and are never, observed at face value. The fact that Pample may or may not have been plotting treason is absolutely important. However, the related facts aren't open for discussion and neither will they be determined within this thread. What we can glean from it, however, is a sense of Jester's capacity for diplomacy and his abilities to lead and to unify a nation of people.

    So, let's look into that shall we?[/quote]

    For one, i don't see why would you have any concern of how Jester leads his people. You are not a part of Necrovion any more, if I recall correctly. Besides, Necrovion isn't a "nation", it's a heterogeneous group of people, and a small one at that... I would rather call it a court then a nation.


    [quote name='Malaikat Maut' timestamp='1289397619' post='71828']Right out of the gates something as important as the appointment and inauguration of a king's equal is likened to a rash and hastily conducted experiment. At least he apologizes for it... [/quote]

    Everything in MD is an experiment. It's the nature of the game. One must try new things in order to try and escape this rut the realm has gotten into. And who are you to say this experiment was rash and hastily conducted? Just because it went south does not mean it was hastily done.

    [quote name='Malaikat Maut' timestamp='1289397619' post='71828']Well, which is it then? The king's fault for making such a poor decision or Pample's fault for taking advantage? What began as an appropriate admission of failure quickly became a platform for cowardly ad hominem attacks. [/quote]

    If you try to deduce blame in a situation like this, good luck. Besides, one has to be bitter when someone close to you betrays you. Friendship and all that... You do know what that is? Besides, stating an opinion is just that... I don't believe it was a major attack on Pample's persona.


    [quote name='Malaikat Maut' timestamp='1289397619' post='71828']Once again, this seems like an excellent opportunity to admit wrong and prove to Necrovion that you've learned from the mistake. Why weren't you controlling your own queen? If you couldn't or weren't willing to lead such a powerful and prominent figure, why should anyone assume you could govern a kingdom? [/quote]

    Again, why would you need to control your queen if you consider her your friend and close associate? If you are controlling everyone and everything, you become nothing but a sad puppet master, alone, tugging the strings.


    [quote name='Malaikat Maut' timestamp='1289397619' post='71828']And it concludes with more slander and ad hominem. Nothing of the future. Nothing of repairing damage done or the glory that is yet to belong to such a deserving people. Only embarrassment.[/quote]

    Actually, this was all a statement about the excommunication. The words were bitter and full of resentment, yes, but easily understood if you put yourself in his shoes. I don't believe Jester has an obligation to state his plans for the future here. I don't see why he should. Again, Necrovion isn't a people, it's small group. It would be different if it was a nation...





    I'm actually pretty amused by your replies. And by this I mean all of you... It is nice to see your true nature... Nothing but scavengers, waiting for a wrong move. It's pitiful.
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    Ivorak reacted to (Zl-eye-f)-nea in Wishshop Requirements   
    Clearly I am missing what the fuss is about...what is the problem with alts having the abilities the wps grant you? So alts can cast spells and edit things...what is the issue with that? This should only be afforded to very few people should it?

    Z
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    Ivorak reacted to Kamisha in Wishshop Requirements   
    The problem with that is the restriction of players who play on the same LAN connection. For example if my brother played which he doesn't (He is an FPS junky) he would be on the same LAN connection that I am on which would mean only one of us would have access to the WP function for days. There are also the people who have or are playing in an internet cafe or in my case in the University of Winnipeg in my spare time. Its an IP address tracker not a MAC address tracker.
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    Ivorak reacted to Espartano in Bonus From Mp5 Story Mode Is Too Low   
    the last page of the mp4 story mode give me alot of bonus e.g. 6000+ vit
    when the option to jump mp5 apeared there are a msg that say something like this:
    mp5 story will give +4% bonus each page plus the meditation bonus.
    so after my 1st choice of 24h I get this:

    Bonus skills received

    Exploring points +7.6
    [b]Maximum vital Energy +190[/b][i]like I say before at mp4 get 6000 after 24h[/i]
    Maximum value points +152
    Initiative +3.8
    Attack +1.9
    Meditation Bonus: 90%

    Principle of Enthropy
    + 1
    info

    so this is normal? because the msg also say to train at mp4 and sac some crits to get better bonus!?
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    Ivorak reacted to Kamisha in Wishshop Requirements   
    Though im often not in complete agreement with many people I have to agree with DST on this. Retro activation is a almost a requirement. As for the system being unbalanced you have to look at the active days. If you are bound to the same rules as everybody else then the system is stable. Besides WP spells have limited effects. You don't need wish-points to be successful they just give you that extra push.

    Besides Fryd its not a question of if its a question of when now.
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    Ivorak reacted to Yoshi in Shoe Family   
    Yeah so... up all night carving this with just my switchblade... I need some carving tools... anyways... here ya go.

    After opening it, gutting it, I blew up Kets avi by like 400%, printed it, then drew it onto the pumpkin, using my paper stencil as a guideline.
    http://storenow.net/my/?f=2368

    A good 7 hours in from opening it, gutting, and carving.
    http://storenow.net/my/?f=2367

    Took about another hour to refine it, make it brighter.
    http://storenow.net/my/?f=2369

    Oh and, yeah, MD is carved into it.
    http://storenow.net/my/?f=2370

    Tomorrow we'll see about a graveyard photo... it's kind of illegal to go into one after dusk... but screw the rules, it's devils night xD
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    Ivorak reacted to Lifeline in Introduction To Marind Bell   
    "The remains of a once flourishing town, Marind Bell's real name was forgotten, and its current name is given after Marind, the protector of these lands. Its power lies in deep mysteries and powerful protective magic developed in time to withstand Necrovion's constant attacks. This land was once peaceful but is now tainted by the fury of war and hatred against darkness."

    To fully understand this introduction inscribed at the Gates of Marind Bell, we must first consider some of the special places within the land…
    · Marind's Roundabout, a fountain holding special water - a place for redemption, cleansing and a new beginning.
    · Stairs to Champion's Challenge, inspiring a climb to higher achievement and new challenges.
    · Angien's Shrine, the place where Angiens dwell, mysterious and legendary beings we don’t know what true power or knowledge they might bring
    · Sage's Keep holding information and knowledge of unknown but possibly immense value.
    · Wind's Sanctuary, a colossal place with unearthly architecture.
    · Passage of War, with mysterious guardians that won’t let anybody pass, and yet the tunnel beeing an undeniable connection to Necrovion.
    · Champion's Dome, a mysterious vault inaccessible by all, with unknown treasure or danger lying within.
    · And finally take notice of the ancient Gates of Marind Bell which are made by the same hand as the cube that was handed to you.

    The appearance of a land and the creatures that inhabit it reflect the mind and mentality of its people. The struggle of the heretic archer but also the harmony of the Angien and the aura of glory and hope that surrounds the land. Marind Bell is shrouded in mystery, its past taken away by time. It is a place of glory, harmony, taint and above all self reflection, a sanctuary for your mind and a haven of personal growth. But it is also a dangerous tool that might as easily destroy you as become a step-stone towards a brighter future.

    The vision I have of Marind Bell is a pilgrimage. A journey that we must all take, facing its challenges in order to learn and grow. We all start blind and helpless, inside a small cube and with every step we take we eventually leave behind the old one and arrive in a newer, ever-larger cube with more opportunities. The trials we face inside Marind Bell make us grow and bring us closer to enlightenment.
    [center][URL=http://img96.imageshack.us/i/73104107.jpg/][IMG]http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/1788/73104107.jpg[/IMG][/URL][/center]
    Marind Bell is open to all, and is the starting point of most who enter the Magic Duel realm. The land is thus a reflection of you, the citizens. It is in our power to create what we wish for, and you are welcome to join in this creative adventure. Let us honor the legacy of this beautiful land and rebuild it to the prosperous nation it once was, only better. The remains of a noble and true civilization shall not remain just a monument of history, but shall become a symbol for the future, an incarnation of our shared goals and motivations. Let us, together, create a glorious kingdom worthy of remembrance for generations to come.

    ~Lifeline
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    Ivorak reacted to adiomino in Oh My! Adio Is A Boy?   
    : Pipstickz uses his magical shiny long rod to turn adio into a real boy!

    Well a minor role change for adio. He's a boy now. err xD with a shiny new golden avatar!

    (the puppy on the forums is going to stay though )
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    Ivorak reacted to Ravenstrider in Mr Squiggle   
    I sat in the grass.
    as wind blowed where the gates howl.
    The shadow rises.
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    Ivorak reacted to Faith and Mercy in Mr Squiggle   
    A poem - Please read slowly and with all the commas, and stops. Read it with feelings(for some reason, poems make sense that way).
    I wanted to participate in this contest, but im still new to this game (8 days) - so, this is pretty much all that i know about MD - sorry if i get some things wrong, im still a mp3 myself - so i dont know much.. and i dont do poetry at all- this is like my 2nd poem in my whole life... But here, enjoy.

    [center]MD Noob[/center]

    I was born in paper cabin,
    Who is sorta like my mother.
    Live help is like my father,
    Who taught me to be strong.

    I ask a bunch of questions,
    And then forget the answers.
    I fight all day to win,
    And now my honor stinks.
    And every elder, asks - "What for?"
    I proudly say!
    "At least my Aramor is level 4!"

    And many many days i was exploring,
    The awesomeness of MD Story.
    And with each try to solve a quest,
    I have sent more than 50 different help requests.

    I role play like I'm tough,
    But fight, hoping on luck.

    Oh when, oh when - will i be mp4!?
    And they shall call me noob No more!
    But that day, is yet to come.

    And to my fellow noobs I say!
    "How dare you, fall into despair!
    This realm is yet to see us rise,
    We are its future and its life!
    For we are free in all our choices.
    Now raise your voices, - strive towards your dream,
    Whether it's to become - good King, or Queen,
    Or maybe an evil ruler of Necroveen.
    Be strong in spirit, and stand your ground -
    One day you'll understand this realm.
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    Ivorak reacted to dst in Goodbye   
    Bla bla bla. Yes, I am to blame for all your problems. I am to blame for the hole in the ozone layer. And for the extinction of the dinosaurs. And for <insert reason here>. Happy now?

    I can't stand such whiners! If you had a piece of dignity you would have left without making such a topic. This says enough.


    Good bye! Have a nice life!
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    Ivorak reacted to alazzah in Gifts   
    As I See Game Was Down For More Than 12H Until Now And Maybe Coz Of Game Need Some Maintenance Or Update ...
    Alote Of Games Has These Things Up And Reward After Maintenance Is Done System Add Some Gift To The Main Account ...

    First Do You Like These Idea ? And If Yes Please Put YOUR Suggestion Here About The Gift ..


    Have Agood Day


    and btw about what you typing mr.CHewett it was very kind from you calling me fool... i dont even know who put you as an administrators while your talking bad ward like these .. i bleaves that people is give things like haw the live in these world and as i see after you call me with afool its ok for me and am not ganna somthing bad in returne .. i can say have agreat life
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    Ivorak reacted to Tarquinus in [Necrovion]I Am Rask   
    I have much to say, but I am not sure how much of it [u]needs[/u] to be said. I will therefore try to keep my remarks relatively brief.

    [list=1]
    [*][b]Language.[/b] dst raises the valid concern of my pompous, high-flown language being problematic for non-native speakers. Sorry about that. I'll try to tone it down, and to include synonyms [word-equivalents] in brackets [] where I simply can't resist the temptation to use a fancy word.

    [*][b]Semantics.[/b] @ Zlei - the question of the usage of "hubris" is indeed a semantic [definition-oriented] one, and therefore of trivial [minor] importance to the discussion. Therefore let us agree to courteously disagree, eh?

    [*][b]Right.[/b] The legitimacy of Rask's claim [i]de jure,[/i] [by "right" or law] is actually in my mind pretty strong given Rask's parentage, and those of you who [i]reckon without his mother[/i] are doing yourselves a disservice. Pamplemousse and Jester both dismiss the [i]de jure[/i] claim as void because the House of Khalazdad's tenure [possession] of the throne has been surrendered. Rask appears to have abandoned this angle of his claim for now, and that makes things simpler.

    [*][b]Fact.[/b] Rask now seems to claim he can [u]prove[/u] his fitness to rule, and this claim is consistent with the desert culture of his father ("kill them for their water") and the strongly patriarchal culture of his mother from the counter-Earth ("be defined by the swords of others"). If that is the case, let him prove himself in fact. Such proof requires no further words on the forum from anyone.

    [*][b]History.[/b] I am a little annoyed by the readiness of others to dismiss Rask's knowledge of the shades, and more annoyed by the assertion [claim] that the shades' will is not relevant. I encourage everyone to consider what Khalazdad's tag was and how he got it. Again, Rask's education at the hands of his very intelligent and well-versed mother should not be dismissed out of hand. It is easy to try to lampoon [ridicule] Rask as a fiction, but he is not an easy fiction because his existence is grounded in in-game events to which I, as Keith Moon, am a witness. I am not the only witness, either. That grounding makes a difference to me as an historian, even if it makes none to anyone else.

    [*][b]Alts.[/b] The fact that Rask is the alt of Kittiness, a now defunct account, means very little to me. It is certainly not, to my way of thinking, a reason to exclude him from serious consideration.

    [*][b]Roleplay.[/b] MagicDuel has historically had an uneasy relationship with roleplay. Rask, you might not realize that roleplay is technically forbidden in the forums. That is why I, at least, do not address the relationship of either of my developed characters* to the House of Khalazdad. I think it is clear that you, Rask/Kitti, are a strong roleplayer and have something to offer the game. Welcome back. Show us what you can do.
    [/list]
    *I have another alt, Konstantin Harknesse, who sees little use and has not been much developed as a character.

    If you're still reading at this point, thanks for your attention.
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    Ivorak reacted to Rask in [Necrovion]I Am Rask   
    [quote name='Aysun' timestamp='1287011481' post='70294']
    YOU will act as befits THEM? The Shades do not need [i]you[/i] to do anything for them. Already you assume too much, but by all means, do continue- the hole you insist on digging for yourself will only grow deeper and wider.
    [/quote]

    As you say
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    Ivorak reacted to Rask in [Necrovion]I Am Rask   
    [quote name='Curiose' timestamp='1287010602' post='70292']
    If you want the bloody crown you will have to fight for it.
    [/quote]

    I agree. The rest of your words are quite irrelevant to me. Do remember to sharpen your teeth and nails though.

    To Rasiel: As you say
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    Ivorak reacted to Rask in [Necrovion]I Am Rask   
    [quote name='lightsage' timestamp='1287006840' post='70287']
    Perhaps I was unclear, your motives puzzled me.
    It is clear to me now through, that you lack what your father had and will always have, authority.

    Now, it also seems to me you have not understood your father's teachings, I seem to remember him saying "A king is only king as long as his people allow him to be". This is a quote I might be wrong about, as I it was a long time ago, I am left with the expression through.

    What I am certain he has said and perhaps these are words you ought to heed:


    .Khalazdad.: One day I was celebrating a victory with my men after a long campaign south of the Khaladzad desert, from which my first name is drawn. The heat and he sun and wine combined to rob me of my native quickness -
    .Khalazdad.: and in truth I was never much of a warrior. Darker arts hold my attention.
    .Khalazdad.: An enemy, Lim-Tul from the Shull tribe of the Northern Wastes, infiltrated the camp. When I went to the trenches to releive myself,
    .Khalazdad.: he sprang up from the muck and quickly had me at his mercy at the point of his spear.
    .Khalazdad.: "You killed my family," he said, "and I would have you know who it was who has defeated you. See my scars? These you gave me years ago when I was but..."
    .Khalazdad.: He stopped talking quite abruptly. It took a moment for me to notice the cloth yard standing from his chest, so suddenly had it sprouted there. One of my sentries had saved me with his eagle eye.
    .Khalazdad.: Before the light went out of Tul's eyes, as it did slowly, I told him: "When its time to talk, talk. When its time to kill, kill. Don't talk."
    .Khalazdad.: Being a master of Death, I kept death from him for three days, during which time I acquainted him well with the sound of his own voice. Some mistakes are made but once.
    .Khalazdad.: You will have the chance to repeat your error or not many times over.
    [/quote]

    I am not my Father, nor am I his preacher.

    I remember hearing that story from my Mother. I agree completely.
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    Ivorak reacted to Rask in [Necrovion]I Am Rask   
    [quote name='Rasiel' timestamp='1286921660' post='70230']
    So shall the people of Necrovion be swept aside like useless old papers?
    [/quote]

    If the people of Necrovion are as useless old papers, then they should be swept aside.
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    Ivorak reacted to pamplemousse in [Necrovion]I Am Rask   
    I do not contest your citizenship, I am not disputing that you do indeed belong in Necrovion. But you have no right be King. Those that would speak for the Dynasty did so when they allowed the power to be transferred to the current King. If this was so important to you, you should have made damn sure you were there to take it, or that Peace not give it away. The Dynasty lost all rights to the throne when Peace willingly gave Jester, a “commoner”, the crown. This abdication entitles you to nothing, Rask.

    This hubris of yours, so clumsily disguised as strength, only proves that you have only your own purposes to serve, not the good of the people of Necrovion, who you seek to speak for, yet do not know.

    Legacy is [i]far[/i] different from birthright.

    Khalazdad was a warrior, not some fawning family man. He was not “Daddy”, he was a commanding force of nature capable of teaching brutal lessons. You know this as well as I.

    It is [b][u]this[/u][/b] spirit that I uphold, it is [b][u]this[/u][/b] legacy that I value. You would do well to remember that before bringing your misguided sense of entitlement to Necrovion.

    (I believe this topic has served its purpose: the character role has been stated. Could the mods please close this topic.)
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