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Happy Bifday Duderino Z

I agree with Udgard, his logic is perfectly sound. Sasha, why don't you bin option 2 and stick to option 1 or even the option 3/4/5...etc... that might be in your head rather than dropping the whole quest? Could you just RP the item if it comes to that? I mean you got a great response to it and people have been enjoying it etc. Makes me sad to think it's all going to go by the wayside when it doesn't have to. Z

I dedicate this to that lovely green fingered elfin lady, Sharahad. My love your beauty makes me blind Poor wording all I seem to find The roses and the violets too, Do make a mockery of you. For skies of night, Flowers gold, Clouds of comforting white, Could never match the stunning hue Of your cloak Worn so tight If that cloak wears its thread too thin My jealousy be sated! The wind it gets to touch your skin It's own desires abated I remain in suffering just longing for your vision An arrow to my heart my love, a terminal incision Your hands are like fine tapestries Your lips a work of art Your imbibed skills do far outweigh The irish drinking chart I plead to you oh softest flower My begging hear it by the hour: "Whenever it gets rainy Come under my umberella, And if it does get rainy Will you call me your fella?" Yes you You beautiful love bird You You glowing daffodil You You luxury yacht. I'll sail you to the moon and back My steering hits the spot? When skies they break a blackened curse Will you conceed to be my nurse? When watercolour scene prevails Will you conceed to hoist my sails? A prayer I give, and listen well For only once I'll kiss and tell; I thank the creator up above For sending such a heartfelt love I thank the demons down below For the velvet tipping show But hark, I hear you cry; How dare I speak of whispering eye? How could I claim of love so bold, Yet dally in the nectar's fold? My love, my love, my lovely love They go together hand in glove Forgive my eyes, my stare, my sight... But meet me do, by sweet moonlight. Z

Happy Bifday...try not to get prosecuted ay? Z

Quite right Sharhazad. Seigheart - Keep poking the bear. The rest of the comments on this thread are exactly the reason why the bear needs to be poked. Hard. Accusing you of starting a flame war/drama fest/ whatever other trivial commentry someone decides to put upon it, for standing up for human rights. Amazing. Z

Great. Good to know where it stands. If you want any help, you know where I am. Z

A 5 month delay is pretty massive. Could you do me a favour and let us know how far you have gotten? What is still missing? etc? Awi has already done September, October I already did and Awii already did, so have we gotten anywhere with the last 2 months in the last 5? Z

Ok, in that case, I have just spent the last 5 hours merging mine and Awiiya's October information. Obviously when I send it in the word doc it is properly formatted - but I wasnt about to spend another hour formatting a forum post (italics aside). I have put some links in there too where possible. [log=Calendar for October] OCTOBER 1 – DAY OF MEDITATION • Ancient Macedonia: Celebration of Alexander the Great’s defeat of Darius III • Aztec: Celebration of Coatlicue. • Ancient Rome: Celebration of Fides. [i]Darius the III was the ruler of the Persian empire, and his defeat at this battle lead to the downfall of his empire. Coatlicue is the goddess of all gods, and the festival was also a way of remembering the women that had died in childbirth. Their names were written with stones and then covered by food and jewelry. Fides is the Roman Goddess of fidelity, good faith and honesty. She oversees moral integrity.[/i] ~~~~ • AL: The Shade balance – After many debates, Renavoid decides there cannot be a treaty between alliances until they learn to work together properly. Without imbalance to sustain their lives, the remaining shades retreat into Necrovion. Yrthilian stands poised having to choose whether to stab Wodin or not. • Announcements: Specialised Voting system implemented in the realm. 2009 • Announcements: First ever MD Festival of Pain. 2009 (http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/206119/Fides http://www.musesrealm.net/rome/festivals.html ) OCTOBER 2 – DAY OF THE GOLDEN LUTE • Viking: Blood festival for Thor to ready for an invasion. • Inca: Sun festival. • Egyptian: Honoring of Tefnut. • Korea: Start of the Gongju cultural festival, celebrating the traditions of the Baekje period. • Persia: Mihragan - The Festival of Autumn. [i]Before attacking another village and pillaging, the Vikings would hold festivals to strengthen and anger themselves. An angry Viking fights better than a calm one, and takes away the fear of death. In order to keep the sun on the correct path, the Inca would hold a festival and the head priest would sacrifice a llama. Tefnut was the goddess of “moist waters” and so she was honored by a pouring of water over the priests.[/i] ~~~~ • AL: A Freezing Fire Starter – The sun comes out due to a mysterious person with an Umbrella... and Phrog gains just enough energy to move. • Announcements: Alt forum accounts are officially frowned upon and deleted. 2009 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehregan http://www.shilla.nl/?page/129322/Festivals.aspx ) OCTOBER 3 – DAY OF SHATTERED MIRRORS • Ancient Rome: Festival of Bacchus • China: Mid-Autumn Festival • Mesopotamia: Celebration of Tiglath-Pileser III. • Germany: Oktoberfest ends. [i] Bacchus is the God of wine, on this day he is thanked for the year’s grape harvest. Mid-Autumn festival is celebrated to mark the end of the Harvest season, and it associated with mooncakes, pomelo and the full moon. In honor of Tiglath-Pileser III’s successful reign, a grand feast was held for him.[/i] ~~~ • AL: A Freezing Fire starter – Someone persuades Phrogs spirit to get into a log and takes him to the Gates of Ages. They carry him across the bridge to GG and energy slowly starts to ebb back to his body thanks to brave adventurers lifting his spirit! • Announcements: Artisans Guild Disbanded 2009 (http://www.musesrealm.net/rome/festivalsinfo.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktoberfest ) OCTOBER 4 – DAY OF LONGINGLY LOOKING • Aztec: Festival of Ixtlilton • Dahomey: Celebration of the Cobra • Maya: Ceremonial reading of the Popol Vuh. • Ancient Rome: Fast of Ceres. [i]Ixtlilton was the god of healing, and his festival involved cleansing of the body and mind. In Dahomey, the Cobra was an animal associated with the afterlife and Gods. The Popol Vuh is an account of the birth of the Mayan world, and their Gods. The fast of Ceres was originally held once every five years, but once the Roman empire ruled it became an annual event. It celebrates Ceres, Goddess of agriculture and fertility.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Shade Balance – Wodin imparts wisdom to Yrthilian so profound that it gives him the chance to let Wodin walk away untouched. Some don’t notice, but for those that do...the Sun is moving in the sky.... • Announcements: Mood panel is implemented in the realm 2009 (http://www.musesrealm.net/rome/festivalsinfo.html ) OCTOBER 5 – DAY OF JESTS AND PLEASURES • Ancient Rome: Mundus patet • Mesopotamia: Religious festival in the Ziggurat. • Brazil: Start of Circo de Nazare [i]Mundus patet is a festival celebrating the dead, and is when it is believed the Mundus Cereris, the door to the underworld, is open. The festival is held to placate the “Manes”, the spirits of the underworld. The Ziggurat was the center of religious activity, and was a pyramid like structure. Circo de Nazare honors the Virgin Mary who is said to have saved the lives of a nobleman and an Amazonian hunter. This legend has become one of the largest festivals in Brazil.[/i] ~~~ (http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event&event_id=5781 http://www.musesrealm.net/rome/festivalsinfo.html ) OCTOBER 6 – DAY OF INNOCENCE • Norse: Praying for the head of Mímir • Inca: In Cuzco, the Inca held a festival for the Mountain Gods. • Egyptian: Honoring of the founding of the Valley of Kings. • Ancient Rome: Day of Bad Omens [i]Mímir was renowned for his intelligence, however he was beheaded during the war of the Gods. Odin carries the head around, and from time to time he whispers secrets and information into his ear. Norse people sometimes prayed to the head so that he would whisper in their ear. The Incan festival involved much feasting and games. The Valley of Kings is where many of the most important Egyptian pharaohs were buried, and the festival honors Meretseger, who is said to be the God who founded the Valley. Roman anniversary of the battle of Arausio (105 BC) where differences between military commanders meant armies did not co-operate - leading to failure. Nearly all soldiers died.[/i] ~~~ • AL: A Freezing Fire Starter – Being carried along, Phrog feels more and more energy as he gets closer to the destination. Set down by the cave entrance, now what should be done? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Arausio ) OCTOBER 7 – DAY OF PURITY AND PEACE • Hebrew: This day celebrates the day when the Hebrew Calendar was created. • Greece: Pyanepsia (to boil beans) • Egypt: Feast day of Ma-at [i]Pyanepsia is a day of thanks to the god Apollo for conquering the Minotaur. Pulses and an Olive branch are hung on the gate of the temple of Apollo. Ma-at is the Egyptian Goddess who set order from chaos at the creation of the universe. She oversees and regulates all things. The word itself means the concepts of balance, truth, order, law, morality and justice. She is also known for weighing souls in the underworld.[/i] ~~~ • AL: A Freezing Firestarter – Thanks to his spirit’s control of drachorns, Phrog’s spirit takes physical form once more, truly the master of flames. • Announcements: After a mass of voting, Yrthilian remains King of Golemus 2009 (http://www.mlahanas.de/Greeks/FestivalsP.htm http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maat http://www.angelfire.com/realm3/shadowsofegypt/Festival.html ) OCTOBER 8 – DAY OF KINSHIP • Aztec: Market festival of Maize. • Mesopotamia: A festival of a polo-type game. • Lenape: Praying for the manitowak of others. • Morocco: Horse Festival. A medieval celebration of horsemanship. • Japan: Start of Marimo Matsuri [i]Maize was an incredibly important food in the lives of the Aztec. It was so important that they worshipped it like Gods. During the Market festival, the harvested Maize was sold and there were games and other festivities. In the Mesopotamian version of polo, the men would sit on another man’s shoulders, and they would run around trying to hit the ball into the goal. Often the men doing the running were slaves. The manitowak is said to be the life-force of all things, and each thing has a manitowak associated with it. Marimo Matsuri’s origins derive from the observation of spheres of endangered Marimo Algae which take one hundred years to grow ten centimeters in diameter. It is a festival worshipping mother nature.[/i] ~~~ (http://www.morocconewsline.com/multimedia/index.php?option=com_jcalpro&Itemid=143&extmode=view&extid=83 http://www.whatsonwhen.com/sisp/index.htm?fx=event&event_id=221777 ) OCTOBER 9 – DAY OF THE KINGS • Nepal: Vijayadashami • Norse: Night of dverger. [i] Vijayadashami is the celebration of the triumph of good over evil. Dverger are the Norse dwarves, known for the technological advancements and ruthlessness. On this night, they are said to come out of the ground and take children to the underground for experiments.[/i] ~~~ • Announcements: Necrovion King elections begin. 2009 OCTOBER 10 – DAY OF FEARFUL REGRET • Ancient Rome: A massive funeral for Germanicus • Pagan: Blood moon • Celtic: Michelmas • Hindu: First day of Navrati Festival • Japan: End of Marimo Matsuri [i]Germanicus was a well known Roman general. On this day people grieved for his death. The blood moon is when blood rituals are the strongest, and the blood of the dead is said to boil. Michelmas is a celebration of the equinox.[/i] ~~~ • Announcements: Wodin’s soul is closed in a seal broken into 4 parts and given to Ailith, Burns, Grido and Yrthilian. 2009 OCTOBER 11 – DAY OF PREMONITIONS • Ancient Rome: Meditrinalia • Hindu: Day 2 of Navrati Festival • Inca: Night festival to Quilla • Aztec: Start of Tepeilhuitl (Feast of the Mountains) [i]Meditrinalia was when the Romans stopped drinking their old stores of wine and began drinking the new batch. It was also associated with Jupiter. Quilla is the moon, and though not as important as Inti (the sun), Quilla was still worshipped for her celestial importance. Tepeilhuitl is a festival for rain and rain deities. Two sisters would represent famine and plenty and be sacrificed to the four great mountains thought to generate rain. Amarath dough was eaten ritually.[/i] ~~~ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meditrinalia http://www.amoxtli.org/cuezali/festivals.html ) OCTOBER 12 – DAY THAT IS AESTHETICALLY PLEASING • Ancient Persia: Cyrus the Great sacks and controls Babylon. • Hindu: Day 3 of Navrati Festival • Aztec: Day of Tenochtitlan • Japan: Oeshiki • Spain: Pilar Festival [i]Once a year in the capitol city of Tenochtitlan there was a massive festival, perhaps when leaders were introduced and priests ordained. Oeshiki is in memory of the 13th century Buddhist priest Nichiren involving a massive procession of people with lanterns and chanting to drums and flutes. The Pilar Festival commemorates St James the Apostle’s bringing of Christianity to Spain via the word from the vision of the Virgin Mary he had.[/i] ~~~ (http://www.worldtravelguide.net/tokyo/oeshiki-festival http://www.spanish-fiestas.com/zaragoza/pilar-festival.htm ) OCTOBER 13 – DAY OF ART AND ARCHITECTURE • Ancient Rome: Celebration of the ascension of Nero • Ancient Rome: Fontanalia • Hindu: Day 4 of Navrati Festival [i]Nero was one of the later Roman Emperors, famous for making people listen to him play his instrument. Fontanalia was in a festival in honor of the wells and springs of the land which garlands were thrown on to. It was presided over by the God Fontus and the Goddess Fons.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun – Bootes, Penelope and Nelya find some documents that appeared once the sun started to move. They have to keep it secret, the Archivists don’t seem to want people to know. I am bored gets kidnapped, he was talking about the documents in public, ‘hopefully the shades will deal with him’ the kidnappers say. • Announcements: No more RPCs from today 2009 (http://www.musesrealm.net/rome/festivalsinfo.html ) OCTOBER 14 – DAY OF NAVAL VICTORIES • Hindu: Day 5 of Navrati Festival • Norse: Mótsognir’s day of creation. • Mesopotamia: Praying to Ninurta • Egyptian: Day of Peace. • Laos: Boat Racing Festival [i]Mótsognir is the first dverger, created by the three brothers Odin, Vili, and Vé. Ninurta was the god of heroes and war. The heroes were also remembered on this day. No fighting or work was allowed to occur on the Egyptian Day of Peace. The Laos boat racing festival takes place to mark the end of Buddhist Monks 3 month rainy season fasting. Donations are given at temples with festivities reserved for the evenings. Candle light processions are held and hundreds of floats are set adrift down the Mekong River, paying respect to it’s spirit.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun – Bootes pours over the papers, a mention of “The Inner Sun” what could it all mean? I am Bored has only himself for company running through dark corridors with no seeming exit. Someone else appears, Bored is in the Archives it seems. • Announcements: Peace is elected Queen of Necrovion by a huge majority after a Public Vote 2009 • Announcements: The first raw material items get randomly distributed across the realm 2009 (http://easyexpat.blogexpat.com/blog/expat/2009/09/17/festivals-around-the-world-this-october ) OCTOBER 15 – DAY OF CATAPULTS AND CAFFEINE • Ancient Rome: Equus • Hindu: Day 6 of Navrati Festival • Inca: Blessing for the stonemasons. [i] Equus is where the right horse in the winning team of horses was sacrificed to the god Mars. The stonemasons were among the most important in the society, for they were needed to build majestic temples. The priests of Incan societies would bless them so that they could do their work better on this day.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun – Nelya realises the documents will make sense if all put together. Bootes begins to do so and realises they don’t relate to the Sun. Bored and No one walk the dark corridors. • Announcements: WP exchange strictly and officially forbidden from today 2009 • Announcements: From today on everyone can achieve the ability to give WPs 2009 (http://www.servinghistory.com/topics/Equiria ) OCTOBER 16 – DAY OF DAYS • Hindu: Day 7 of Navrati Festival • Aztec: Celebration of Tlacaelel • Korea: End of Gongju Cultural Festival [i]Tlacaelel was one of the most important rulers of the Aztec period. He strengthened their religion and military ability. Each year on the day he died he is celebrated and remembered.[/i] ~~~ • Announcements: King of Loreroot elections begin 2009 OCTOBER 17 – DAY OF THE RED HAT • Hindu: Day 8 of Navrati Festival • Norse: Festival to Muninn • Egyptian: Festival of figs. • Japan: Samurai Festival of Toshogu Shrine • Hindu/Sikh: Diwali [i]Muninn is the norse god of memory, and people would pray to him so that they would not forget their loved ones when they went away. Figs were an important crop for the Egyptian, and they honored them in a number of festivals centered around the eating of them. The Samurai Festival of Toshogu Shrine is also known as the procession of the thousand samurai warriors. It involves a procession of warriors dressed in armor and traditional formal attire. Diwali is also known as the festival of lights. It is a 5 day celebration in honor of the return of Lord Rama from defeating Ravana the demon lord king. Triumph of good over evil.[/i] ~~~ (http://www.accessjapan.co.uk/newlookfactfile/festivals.html http://easyexpat.blogexpat.com/blog/expat/2009/09/17/festivals-around-the-world-this-october ) OCTOBER 18 – DAY OF THE FLOATING IMAGES • Hindu: Day 9 of Navrati Festival • Inca: Celebration of an Incan war campaign to the “savages” in the rainforest to the east. • Mesopotamia: Religious festival in Ngirsu. • Morocco: Festival of Dates • Peru: Festival of the Lord of the Miracles [i] In celebration of their victory, the Incan would hold a massive festival. Every Incan male was required to serve in at least one military war. Ngirsu was the religious center for the kingdom of Langash. The Gods were honored in various ways, but in this festival they were offered food and prayers. The Date Festival involves Music, folk dance and tastings to celebrate the good luck that dates are thought to have brought the land. The Festival of the Lord of the Miracles is to commemorate a 350 year old mural of Christ that has endured despite attempts to remove it.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun – Bootes and No One walk the corridors and finally find a small door, walking through the see a dark clouded sky through the broken windows of the hall. No One stares at the closest thing he has ever seen to night. Somehow from the Archives...they are now in Necrovion. Bored goes to look at the corridors again while No One wanders into necrovion. • Announcements: Citizenship is implemented in the realm 2009 (http://www.morocconewsline.com/multimedia/index.php?option=com_jcalpro&Itemid=143&extmode=view&extid=190&date=2012-10-18&return_to=L211bHRpbWVkaWEvaW5kZXgucGhwP29wdGlvbj1jb21famNhbHBybyZhbXA7SXRlbWlkPTE0MyZhbXA7ZGF0ZT0yMDEyLTEwLTE4 http://www.perutravels.net/peru-travel-guide/art-festivals-lord-miracles.htm ) OCTOBER 19 – DAY OF APOLOGIES TO FRIENDS • Ancient Rome: Celebration of the Battle of Zama • Ancient Rome: Armilustrium • Hindu: Day 10 of Navrati Festival [i]The Battle of Zama was fought between Hannibal and Scipio. The Roman army defeated Hannibal, protecting them from an invasion. Armilustrium is when weapons were put away and stored for the winter, and is associated with Mars. On the 10th day is Dasara, the celebration of Lord Rama’s defeat of Ravana.[/i] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armilustrium ) OCTOBER 20 – DAY OF PLANETARY DISILLUSIONS • Bahá'í Faith: Birth of the Báb • Lenape: Guidance of the nianque. [i]Báb is one of the three central figures of the Bahá'í Faith. The nianque was said to be an animal guidance, especially on visual journeys. The lenape would on this day focus on their nianque and meditate.[/i] ~~~ • Announcements: Tainted warriors become available for a new leader 2009 • Announcements: Q docs can be gained by anyone based on certain requirements from today 2009 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/bahai/holydays/birthbab.shtml ) OCTOBER 21 – DAY OF SLAMMING • Greece: The temple to Apollo is destroyed in a strange fire. • Norse: Day of offerings to the Fylgja. [i]The Fylgja were like spirit animals, and every person has one that is associated with their fate. Often appearing during the night, but sometimes seen during the day. In order to assure a good fate, one would offer food for it in the middle of the night.[/i] OCTOBER 22 – DAY OF JEERING • Aztec: Fertility ceremony involving human sacrifice. • Inca: Monthly cleaning and rededication of the huacas. • Senaca: Honoring of Eagentci • Egypt: Abu Simbel • Japan: Jidai Matsuri (Festival of Ages) [i]The sacrifice of humans was an honor, and those being sacrificed were said to go straight to the Aztec’s concept of heaven. The sacrifice of humans was used for various purposes, but here a man is sacrificed in hopes of improving the fertility of the community. Huacas were the religious cites, located in caves or on mountains. They were often were mummies were buried. Eagentci was the mother-goddess, and one who created all things. Abu Simbel is also held on the same day in February. It is a day when the light fall perfectly lights up statues of Ramses, Ra and Amun. Jidai Matsuri is a festival of historical re-enactment where authentic costumes are worn.[/i] ~~~ • Announcements: Firsanthalas is voted King of Loreroot by a vast majority. 2009. (http://www.bugbog.com/festivals/exotic_festivals.html#october http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jidai_Matsuri ) OCTOBER 23 – DAY OF GOOD VIBRATIONS • Astrology: First day of the sign Scorpio • Mesopotamia: Celebration of the founding of Ur. • Egyptian: Celebration for fertility, centering on Taweret [i]In ancient cultures, Scorpio would be celebrated by a quiet ceremony, as introverted people are those associated with Scorpio. It was on this day that Ur was said to have been created with the help of the Gods. Taweret is the goddess of childbirth and fertility, and is pleased by material offerings.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun: I am Bored sits in a forgotten dark corner, his screams echoing with no response. OCTOBER 24 – DAY OF POISONOUS POETS • Pagan: Druid feast of the spirits • Norse: Sacrifice to ensure good Hamingja. • Buddhism: Sangha Day • Zambia: Independence Day • Brazil: End of Cirio de Nazare [i] Hamingja is roughly equal to luck. Sanga Day celebrates the last day of the rain’s retreat.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun – I am Bored tried to light a fire, but to no avail for some time. Finally, when he manages, he sees the enormous amounts of books there. Some he puts on the fire, but one he reads “Rare Creatures”. (http://www.woodlands-junior.kent.sch.uk/Homework/religion/calendar.htm#oct http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_independence_days ) OCTOBER 25 – DAY OF INFANTILE DREAMS • Aztec: Pīpiltin day of feasting. • Maya: Rain festival. [i]The pīpiltin were the highest social class in Mayan society, and as such held their own separate festivals. On this day they feasted in honor of the human mind, and took intoxicants to see the future. In days of long draughts, the Mayan would gather together and perform a massive rain dance.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun – Penelope gets frustrated. Either they are missing some documents, or there is something else they are missing. OCTOBER 26 – DAY OF HOT ARTICLES • Ancient Rome: Ludi Victoriae Sullanae • Inca: Snake festival. • Australia: Independence Day [i]The Ludi Victoriae was a military celebration of Sulla, a Roman General. The celebration lasted 6 days. Snakes represented the inner earth, and in the festival people made snake-like figures and had a procession with them.[/i] OCTOBER 27 – DAY OF YELLOW BELLIES • Ancient Rome: Ludi Vicotriae Sullanae Day 2 • Norse: Honoring of the Raven • Egyptian: Grand Market day [i] In Norse mythology, the Raven was an almost spiritual figure associated with death, luck, and the afterlife. Raven’s were said to be able to see the future. The Egyptian people would go to their capital or local city to sell the goods they had harvested.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun – In a Pub, an unknown hands Bootes a map to Sage’s keep, but it shows something different. The unknown is gone before Bootes can thank them. OCTOBER 28 – DAY OF FULLNESS • Ancient Rome: Ludi Victoriae Sullanae Day 3 • Mesopotamia: In time of drought, festival for Enki. • Egyptian: Night of Apep • Greek: Ohi Day • Czech Republic: Independence Day • Peru: End of the festival of the Lore of the Miracles [i]Enki was the God of rain, and he was said to be pleased by honoring his name with songs. On this night the demon-god Apep was said to wander the land, looking for women to take back to his kingdom under the earth. Ohi day is known as the anniversary of the “no” and celebrated in Greek communities around the world. It commemorates the Greek refusal to let Italy occupy them during WWII.[/i] ~~~ (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohi_Day http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_independence_days ) OCTOBER 29 – DAY OF SINS NON-EXISTENCE • Ancient Rome: Ludi Victoriae Sullanae Day 4 • Aztec: Tlachtli tournament in honor of Tezcatlipoca. • Turkey: Independence Day • UK: National Honey Show [i]Tlachtli is a game played with a rubber ball, in which the players could only hit the ball with their elbows, knees, and hips. The team that got the ball through the hoop would automatically win. This was such a difficult feat, however, that games often went on for hours. The National Honey Show was first held in 1923, now held in October every year. Honey farmers compete for a title donning them with the status of best honey production.[/i] ~~~ (http://www.honeyshow.co.uk/history.shtml http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_national_independence_days ) OCTOBER 30 – DAY OF SHELLING PEANUTS • Ancient Rome: Ludi Victoriae Sullanae Day 5 • Norse: Hanging of Hagbard • Inca: Day of divination. • Aztec: End of Tepeilhuitl (Feast of the Mountains) [i] Hagbard is a renowned sea king, who was hung for loving another out of wedlock. People near his gallows sometimes visit and offer a flower on this day. In order to predict the coming harvest season, the Inca would call the assistance of the priests. [/i] ~~~ • Voting on Marind Bell Kingship begins 2009 OCTOBER 31 – DAY OF THE GHOULS • Ancient Rome: Ludi Victoriae Sullanae Day 6 • Pagan: Samhain • Mesopotamia: Eridu festival. • Mexico: Day of the Dead • Norse: Start of Winter Nights • Aztec: Start of Quecholli (The Precious Feather) [i]The final day of the Ludi Victoriae was marked with a feast and a mock fight. Samhain is a number of festival rolled into one. It is a festival of the end of summer and the harvest season, but it is also a festival associated with the dead. Eridu was one of the first cities of Mesopotamia, and so was celebrated as the birthplace of Mesopotamian culture and society. The day of the dead is a festival to link the dead with the living. Fancy dress is worn, many visits to grave yards are done and sugared skulls created. Winter Nights is also known as the festival of the Wild Hunt. Odin rode his horse Sleipneir and led the gods chasing a boar in the skies. Spirits roam free as the light in all nine worlds goes out. Quecholli is a festival in honor of Mixcoatl - God of Hunting. Deer were hunted. People dressed as deer were also hunted, and then eaten.[/i] ~~~ • AL: The Inner Sun – Bootes goes to the back to Sages keep to find two lion statues who want an answer to their questions before they let him pass. The rest of the realm work to try to help him. (http://www.bugbog.com/festivals/exotic_festivals.html#october http://www.timelessmyths.com/norse/way.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samhain http://www.amoxtli.org/cuezali/festivals.html ) [/log] Z

Yes, Fire Starter - as long as you can show me evidence that it is a real festival then I will do my best to incorporate it (I say do my best rather than just 'will' just in case there is a day with like 10 festivals on it lol) Support very much appreciated Aster. This is great guys, keep going. Awiiya has done work on Sept and Oct too, so it is mainly November and December that need the major work. I think BFH did a week in Nov? Trying to find out. How would you feel if I post up completed months for comment/additions/just so everyone can see what is being done? Separate thread or here for that? Z

I do not want to step on anyone's toes, but Aysun started this and now after months of inactivity on it her original thread is closed. I do not know what Aysun did or didn't submit, what she did or didn't acquire - but I intend to complete what has been left unfinished. Aysun - if you want to contact me to get this finished, please do so...as I have stated to you previously. If you can head it up again, all the better. Everyone else - this is everyone's project, I'm just making this thread for the sake of saying what I intend and hopefully then anyone with input can contact me just so we have a hub. I don't know about anyone else but I want to see it finished, and someone has to get off their butt and make it happen, so it might as well be me. Lets do it. I've already finished October. Anyone with input on Sept, Nov and Dec send me the shizzle. Hopefully we can finally get it done. I know people have been trying to do this for a long time, but please don't give up hope, we will get it sorted as a big ol MD team - I'm not going anywhere, and I will make sure it gets submitted in full - unless Aysun appears to take hold of the project again, which I hope she does. Z

I play the Ocarina. Mine is very small, more akin (but smaller than) to this one:[url="http://www.songbirdocarina.com/sweet-potato-ocarinas?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&product_id=63&category_id=7"]Small Ocarina[/url] I grew up learning tin whistle, so it wasn't very difficult to learn for me - and I like high pitches. The small stature means I can carry it on a leather thong and play whenever I feel like it. The deeper tones of the larger versions are very nice though. Once you have the basics, adding in the embelishments is the most fun. Z

[quote name='Sephirah Caelum' timestamp='1295944617' post='77998'] [u]To me[/u], the arguing came very late. Yes. [/quote] There is no point spoiling a basic bit of enjoyment imo, not to mention the uproar that comes with that. It is only worth making something a serious issue if it is having a detrimental effect on the basis of things. The memorial in this instance would appear to have that effect based on the logic I stated previously, the story itself didnt reach such a level imo as it was first and foremost a quest based story, and that was it. Im all for memorials in general. Z [ed: and just to add an offtopicish thought as an example of something: If we know in MD that places you can go can actually be entered, then why do we act as if this isn't the case with certain things and then get surprised when someone says what we already should know? Some cannot enter the oak tower in Loreroot, but it can be entered, how odd it would be to see people roleplaying being inside it when they are not]

[quote name='Sephirah Caelum' timestamp='1295908373' post='77990'] It means that if none of this had happened I would continue to appreciate what is written and think about them and how them happened, while the fossils and otheres that know the facts better remain quiet, silent and dumb. Saying for some questions I ask that the answer is secret while others questions are politely ignored? [/quote] I don't think anyone remains quiet silent and dumb. Quite clearly not or you would have nothing to be arguing with right now and nobody would be answering you. Also, what Chewett said. [quote name='Sephirah Caelum' timestamp='1295908373' post='77990'] And while the quest was going on because no one argued the action was wrong act, and remained silent until now? Why did not try to correct the mistake while it was in process? [/quote] Actually some of us did comment on that fact, just not on the forum and not making a big fuss about it - what would you rather? Being forced out of doing something fun you enjoy just because it isn't factually accurate? Z

I'd say its more...Ren has been memorialised before. The space between then and now is filled with this PAL he did - which as Akasha says has no bearing on any valid MD stuff but is just a made up story. Hence it detracts from the reality of the accurate things one might find, and hailing him once again after such a thing is almost to hail the thing itself considering the previous memorial in sted. I love Renavoid, but I totally get what Akasha is saying here. Z

I get the feeling people are giving up as statistically from our highest output it seems improbable to reach the top. For the record, Im still voting as much as I can. Z

I've seen people with the best reputations here knowingly and purposefully run a mass RP event right on top of an event they know for a fact was about to happen, while in talks with the people who would run said event, and without mentionning what they were about to do. Now that is discourteous. This? Annoying? probably, but I doubt it was done on purpose to irk you. Story night might be at the forefront of your mind, because you run it, but it isn't constantly publicised, if it were I would know what the next date is for example...which I don't, I'd have to go dig through the forum for it - that's if it even popped into my head at all. If it were being publicised loudly at the time and someone then out-ran, that is one thing, but that isn't the situation here (there is no current status update, no current mood panel update, no news box, and no recently updated forum thread). Incidentally nobody said hey I demand you move your time, I think the words were "The time of this event can not be moved or waivered due to trying to make availability for the kings and players who knew Ren well. If this interferes with story time my apologies and perhaps it can be moved a little to work with this schedule." Z

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Happy Bifday m'dear Z

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[quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1294475799' post='77102'] I'm merely checking if I have the same definition of discussion as everyone else have, since I'm being used as an example to say people should be discussing, when I thought that was exactly what I'm doing. [/quote] I never actually said you weren't having a discussion so I'm not sure if you just don't understand my sentance structure or...well I won't go there. As it has been glossed over in your retort let me say it again in another way for you: I said people should be discussing with the people who actually matter, as in on the topic of how to help them, which we arn't, instead said people are being told what will help them and then when they oppose it being told that their opinion lacks validity. We are discussing on Burn's topic. The topic of a suggested 'percentage of MP5 supported' implimentation, the reason for which has changed many times now during this discussion. We are not discussing directly with newer players as to what could be done to make MD a more hospitible environment for them, what issues they do have that are getting up their noses and what their feelings about the dreaded MP5 are and why, and then with that knowledge trying to find a solution. We are discussing in a fashion which lacks any inherant value for the purpose for which the discussion was started, unless of course the purpose is not what it was stated as, and seeing as the purpose has changed more times than a babies diapers maybe there isn't one anyway. [quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1294475799' post='77102'] I'm quoting it again since it seems that my statement didn't come through clearly. I said it is just an illusion when people think [b]all mp5 want is for mp3/4 to move up so they can pound them down[/b]. To which you said you think they're right and you've done testing on it. How do you do tests on that? Give a questionnaire to mp5 about what they want? Observing and trying to read their minds? I don't think that's what you mean, so of course I think you were talking about something else here? I'm not saying that all their opinions are just deluded illusions, but I do think that the whole sentiment of "[b]let's not go to mp5, everyone there is just a monster waiting for us to click the wrong button "advance to mp5" so they can eat us up[/b]" is just an illusion. One that is constantly reinforced by people keep that keeps saying mp5 is a hell that fresh mp5s will never ever be able to survive and going there is the end of your character's career, thus leading to the thought that if people are trying to suggest something, it is just so they can get new food. [/quote] Your statement came through perfectly clearly, and what I said still stands. In fact, now you are negating you own arguments. You yourself claim that your 'testing' shows the opposite to mine, well if I can't do testing then nor can you. Of course we can't know what all MP5 want inherently, that is ridiculous, so how does such a statement come to be do you think? What reinforces it? Come on. This constant twisting of the issue only makes people even less enamoured with MP5, or as I'm going to start calling it soon, spin city 5. What is the point of the relevent group discussing with MP5 veterens at all if all that happens is they get told they are wrong by a group of people who arn't actually experiencing the situation they are talking about. Whats the point? Would you listen to people doing that to you? [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1294437812' post='77068'] You cant chastise someone for not knowing something lol. The bigger issue is then that these mp3/4's are being taught to not go to mp5, and specially train certain things up without learning why. Which is something i would say is encouraged by some mp4'sThe whole learning process is screwed up when people sit in the dojo complaining about each and every loss, while being told what to train and not learning about the rits. This is much more important than preventing alts.ANY mp4 can survive at mp5 whatever the stats/crits as long as they have the basics of ritual making, including some decent "ve protecting, crit protecting" rits. [/quote] The latter might be the factual case, but clearly not knowing how to do this negates the usefulness of that case...and falls into the irony category, see further down. I also think that in general people will of course ask what are the best ways to do things, in any game, and will try to take shortcuts to success. It sort of goes back to what Kaf said in post #27: "Seriously, who is it that tells us that mp5 is hard? Who is it that posts here that mp4 and mp3 is being abused by alts using whatever means" and later in another post "who is giving this people those tips? I don't, none of the real mp3s or mp4s could" It again goes back to an attitude change from the Mp5s as a solution. [quote name='Burns' timestamp='1294438615' post='77071'] Absolutely. No need to drag the same issue down to MP3 and 4, too, is there?And there are far, far too many 'monsters' who were created solely for the purpose of showing off with their monsters. And if you annoy the wrong persons, they bring them out, just for the sake of hurting you. Or, in some cases, just because the can, with no reason whatsoever. [/quote] There is also no need to penalise the MP3 and 4 when the issue clearly lies at MP5. It is filtering down, not up. Penalise yourselves. Monsters at low levels arnt actually the issue. MP5 is the issue. The sheer amount of forum posts regarding the MP5 situation also supports this. As I said, if you can show me the evidence for the poor newbies leaving because of these monsters it would be a start, and if that tiny population is the issue at all and it is alt abuse causing it, then we should start penalising the people who do it, not penalise all of mp3 and 4. Start a forum thread and name and shame them - but if this is a money or a skill issue, or if it isnt actually MP3s and 4s who have the issue, I won't accept it...and then there is the irony Kafuuka has mentionned: [quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1294439122' post='77075'] Ironically, if we take the same argument but substitute mp3 for mp4 and mp5, they can survive against the horrors which Burns wants to protect them against.Let me put it this way: there is no mp4 conspiracy to make mp5 suck more. I would start one, if there were a need for it, but it seems to me mp5 are already doing good enough a job by themselves. Just take a look around: messages on the mood panel like 'please level up faster and become my punchbags' or private logs stating 'you're too weak to be mp5, go back to mp4' etc. Don't tell me those were ironic statements by those people. [/quote] Z

Happy Bifday old man Bunny Z

Shout, shout, let it all Maut! Yes. I said it. I wish you a wonderful bifday, from me and Cher. Z

[quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1294371893' post='77010'] Its huge age requirement strikes me as meaning that a maxed one is a creature you're gonna have at a later stage of your gameplay [/quote] It strikes you as is fine. Its "supposed to"? not fine. It strikes 'me' as an age requirement...and that's it. What you choose to do about that age requirement is up to you. [quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1294371893' post='77010'] I'm listening to what he's saying, and I haven't thrown a single rep in this thread yet. I'm giving my opinion (that's discussion I believe, exchanging opinions) that his thought that [/quote] Sorry if you feel this was personal, it wasn't, it was a general statement using your quote as an example. Of course the general statement itself did include you, but you seem to have taken it as if it was just meant as a dig at you an nobody else - it was meant for a vast number of people, not just you. I am aware of what a debate is, but thanks for defining it partially for me just in case I wasn't, I will add your referrence to the front of my dictionary for future reference just in case I ever lose the page. Alas, the issue here is that the people commenting from the world that it actually matters to and will affect negatively as well as possibly positively (rather than just positively which is how it will affect MP5) are being argued with that their opinion is not valid enough - which makes no sense seeing as they are the ones that matter here. What I said about your definition of these "illusions" still stands. Quoting it again makes no odds to what I said on the matter. How is it an illusion? because the players themselves arn't MP5 and can't comment therefore? Well by the same token this entire thread is obsolete then as you are not experiencing MP3 or 4 as a new player and never can again. The difference being that you made an alt or that you experienced it at a different time? At a different time is irrelivant. Made an alt is also irrelivant. Veteren players cannot comment definitively as a personal line on this. I can't, you can't, only their comments matter. I can say I tested and found their comments correct, you can say opposite, but if they themselves as players are saying something is one way then we should listen and work with that instead of pushing veteran docterine down their throats. [quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1294383207' post='77015'] What would you say exatly the fear is? because if its of "being attacked" then you surely havent learnt how to make rits... [/quote] Then they haven't learned to make rits and that is an issue, not something to chastise them for. Not that you necessarily are here, but I know many Mp5s who do - and it isn't very helpful to the situation. If they can't make rits to your veteran standards then they can't. If a majority can't then arn't we seeing something else amiss? [quote name='Burns' timestamp='1294387001' post='77018'] I don't want those creatures to be accessible to MP3 and MP4 because there are other players who might enjoy the game in all its aspects, also fighting, who stop after a few days because the general message of fighting such rituals is the following: To stand a good ground on NEWBIE level, i need to invest about 60 bucks now AND wait for 2 months. For the WEAKEST of the THREE levels of combat. [/quote] Giving someone something useful and then taking it away from them is the simplest psychological method of warfare to make people feel disheartened and leave. Allowing them to achieve that thing again by working for it again after they already had it makes no odds. Retrospectively downgrading creatures will have this effect. In addition, wihout high VE in place the theory of "any player can beat any player" still stands as far as I know. With what you just said here, not only are you suggesting a change to the entire MP levelling system, but also now a change to the WP and shop system. It also won't change the fact that the suggested implimentation will not help keep new people....unless...unless you are telling me that you have evidencial proof from new players that they leave because at lower levels they are being attacked constantly by insane rits they don't feel they have a hope of hell in beating and that they can never beat anyone else at their level...no wait...isn't that is what is being said constantly about MP5? I thought the point was to try to change the system to help new players. As I said in Kaf's thread, this idea will not do that based on the argument that is being fought against - that being alts with high level creatures, or high level creatures at all at low levels. [quote name='No one' timestamp='1294395688' post='77019'] Read my words: I DON'T CARE . [/quote] Well seeing as that isn't even my point let alone my quote you are responding to...nor do I [quote name='No one' timestamp='1294395688' post='77019'] The problem is that you have to raise him to your lvl to make him understand. Otherwise he does not (want to ) understand. [/quote] Or perhaps it is us who need to understand them, not the other way around. [quote name='No one' timestamp='1294395688' post='77019'] extreme stats are NOT NORMAL [/quote] But this thread isn't about extreme stats. It is about high level creatures and alt abuse. It is, in theory, about a particular suggestion which intends to help keep players. Is it that you think that this suggestion will also help protect against extreme stats at low levels? If so could you please elaborate (explain how)? [quote name='Ravenstrider' timestamp='1294402159' post='77024'] Maybe finding a 50-60 days old mp5 and asking them for their opinion? Same goes for mp3 and mp4... (cut)..And I don't believe you can meet ..(Z edit: the monsters).. that often in the open...(cut) [/quote] agreed. Z