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I am not impressed by the suggestion of a time delay on people receiving rewards, or banning the same people getting rewards. I used to race when I was a kid and a teacher once told me to run slower, so the other kids could win the races. I found it then, and now, ridiculous. As for nominations....how about we just do what pretty much every award ceremony in the world does and do it based on number of votes or ranking numbers (so if there are 5 people to vote for you give one person a 1, one a 2, one a 3 etc)? Maybe I'm missing something. Z

I have sent all of the calendar stuff to the council multiple times, they confirmed they got it. I also posted it on the forum. Will email you direct. Z

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None the less isn't it kind of odd that in that case it just 'happens' to be after Pip does his bashing that something actually gets done? If the past and this incidence itself is anything to go by, public attention is often exactly what it takes, coupled with some other stuff. Z

Thanks Guillak. Real nice of you to so freely distribute this. Z

I like the idea here, but it ignores the administrative nature of said spells...and the ‘spell’ bit. Unfortunately, some of the people with them are also ignoring that. In theory, those who earned those spells should have the same pickiness and responsibility in terms of distribution, just as it was hard for them themselves to have been taught the spell imo. Still, cant win either way, then people would complain too about 'vets hogging spells' or something. My suggestion for now based on this sort of thing- if someone who learned it from a memory stone tries to use a spell, then something about the person they are trying to use it on should be taken into account. Their ability to use the spell should be ‘weaker’ and so a yes or no from the person involved would make sense, but it would want to be a sub-conscious one, not a pop-up...or the pop-up only appearing if you are resistant enough. Something based on you. For example: the more permanent spells you have, the more resistant you might be to weak casters. Or like you say there Darigan, it could cost you something, like heat, to work against the spell in any way – just as it cost heat to cast it. Just because you temporarily learnt a spell, you are a master at it and everyone bows to your will? Doesn’t make sense to me....but then, I expect the system to evolve. Z

love it Z

1_0x-1_1 The Puddle 1_0x-1_1 Walls End 1_0x-1_1 Reflections in Water 1_0x-1_1 The Land Guardian 1_0x-1_1 Loneliness 1_-1x3_1 The Fish Fountain 1_1x3_1 Door Design 4_1x2_17 Quartered Sphere 4_1x2_17 Framed Blank 8 4_1x2_18 Framed Blank 1 1_0x0_1 Pentagons 7_foundation_1 Standing Person 7_foundation_1 Pillars 1_2x1_1 The secret message of never ending torment (bit too melodramatic? ok then....Oval Floor Thing) 1_1x1_1 The Boob Tree (ok so it doesnt have to be called the boob tree)

Whilst I agree this has gone a bit odd and it is a semantic issue - neither party is a native english speaker and the word donation is incorrectly used if the request is in fact being enforced as a fee, im not saying nobody does it. In terms of large corporations, if you use incorrect wording that makes people think one thing when it is in fact another then the consumer can haul you in front of the ombudsman and have you fined. In most of the larger corporations you get a fine just for it reaching the ombudsman in the first place and then fined again whatever they decide to fine you, and of course you are told to change the wording. Yes small companies can mess you around with tricksy wording, that doesnt make it right, and it doesn't mean they won't get a legal battle on thier hands at some point. Z

[quote name='Pipstickz' timestamp='1317427462' post='93004'] In regards to the introduction: I assumed anybody who's been even glancing at the mood panel lately knows my opinion before reading this, and would take it with a grain of salt, so to speak. As for the discussions, I merely intended to keep this thread free of arguments about whether or not Grido was right or wrong in the Phantom or dst case, because while they are relevant to the topic, they invite flame wars, derailments and general unhappiness that you can go to their respective threads to receive. So no, I was not trying to say "NO TALKING", because there clearly was talking, and plenty of it, most of which seems to be constructive to me. Besides, regardless of what I say, you're free to post whatever you'd like, as you know. [/quote] First you categorically posted that this is not personal, then you say your post was ‘actually’ supposed to be taken with a grain of salt. I’d have to say you are right. I, for one, did need at the very least a grain of salt in order to swallow your statements. I never said you said “NO TALKING” as you have put it, but you only confirm exactly what I did say, and what Hedge also seems to see. I’d also be interested to know the answer to what sparked your interest in the matter? Your curt response telling me you think I know that I’m free to post whatever I like is incorrect. Best not to assume what I do or do not know. What I do know is that to just post whatever I like, I would consider bad manners. You, as the figurehead of this discussion/thread have requested we do not discuss certain matters. Respectfully therefore I have opted to find out your reasons for that rather than barge in with an uninformed response. Your lack of response to a straight forward part of Grido’s question “Is there a way for that opinion to be changed by me...” to me again means this is personal rather than about the community. Z

Whilst saying this isn’t a personal issue, the way the introduction to this is written does come across as very personal and quite vindictive. Not only that, but you caveat wanting discussions relating to this coming about to stay in their respective threads, thereby removing discussion of the issues here that caused you to create the poll in the first place. As for hearing Chinese Whispers of what people do: Don’t let someone else’s personal views ruin your own objectivity and sense of perspective. Z

Happy Bifday May Bob's love always shine upon you Z

Happy Bifday Chew Z

Hope you had a good one Marv Z

The council havent replied to any of the messages i have sent them since the announced shuffle. They have been sent all this n linked to this thread but i got no response at all, so i dont know what they do or dont want. If you look at the calendars there are some days with very little on them, if you want to find more for these days i recon that would be great n a quick editorial once over is always good too. Thats all i can think of without some response from council, dont know about anyone else Z

well done for putting that message together so well. I know I wouldnt have been able to. I'm so sorry and you're in my thoughts mate. Z

Happy Bifday! Z

Bit late but....still an issue. Any new takers on having this issue too? Have sent another e-mail to MD Staff. Z

Happy Bifday man, have a good one Z

Happy Bifaych BFH Z

Have a good one Awi Z

This quest was awesome fun. Thanks for it. Z