I wanted to create a place where players can share their thoughts and experiences with the new card-based fighting system and compare it with the classic combat system.

The new system appears to offer a different style of strategy through cards and more direct choices during battle.

I would like to hear everyone’s opinions on the following:

• Is the new system understandable and easy to learn?

• Does it offer enough strategic depth?

• How does it compare with preparing rituals in classic combat?

• Do the cards feel balanced and meaningful?

• Does player choice have enough influence over the outcome?

• Are the battles too fast, too slow or appropriately paced?

• Which parts of the system are enjoyable?

• Which mechanics feel confusing or need improvement?

• Would you like the card system to remain separate from classic combat, or interact with it somehow?

• What features or cards would you like to see added?

• Would you prefer the classic combat or card style combat if it were to change and the new card style be the permanent way of combat from now on.

Both positive and critical feedback are welcome. The purpose of this discussion is not to declare one combat system better than the other, but to identify what makes each one interesting and how the new system could become a meaningful part of combat.

Please share specific examples from your battles whenever possible, especially unusual interactions, balance concerns, confusing mechanics or strategies that worked particularly well.

Edited September 9Sep 9 by redneck

The classic combat system has depth it took years to learn and master. It lets me grind the stats I need quickly (Exploration, Action Points, Worldly Inertia, & Vitale from Bursts). I can get a full rotation on all surrounding players, while rotating in on the Splinter without any delay (by double clicking attack, this way the battle popup is skipped entirely).

From what I've seen of the new combat system, nearly all of that is no longer the case. Fights take way longer than they should by a mile. That alone is enough for me to say no thank you.

I respectfully don't enjoy the new card combat system. Even polished, manual battles will never be as efficient as auto battles. I'm absolutely speaking from a grinders perspective, and my view is completely biased, but my vote is a solid no thank you.

A side mini game for those who like to dabble would be fine. Just please don't swap out my efficient combat system for... A duel of Yu-Gi-Oh.

The reward to time invested in the card system is the only flaw IMO. I love the concept. It allows you to react to combat, mid combat. Much more intentional.

I like the new system more than the old one, but I am not sure it is generally speaking, as practical for raising creatures.

I'd like to see the old system stay as-is (or perhaps, only giving wins but no stat rewards?).

I'd like to see the new system give greater rewards, as it does take longer and is much more PvP.

I can see the new system being used for tournaments, like we used to have, for roleplay as well.

I sort of see the old system fights as a passing comment, whereas the new one is trying to win a debate - it takes longer, more effort, and so should be the more rewarding of the two.

TLDR: Keep both ;)

@redneck make it a poll pls

yes different rewards to match fight duration was my intention too but ibwas hoping we can talk about the mechanism not the rewards. i think if i put you a "give something now" button in place of any fight, a majority would be happy.. well .. if it gets to remain, rewards will differ, but wont be a sudden update.. with bigger rewards comes bigger temptation to abuse it.

Also i want to make an important change to it.. i dont really like the stats difference making most strategies pointless.. i am not sure yet how to reshift the balance so that it makes sense to get better as you fight more, but at the same time don't render other weaker opponents absolutely powerless. I think in this card game chances should be that a good choice chain coild lead to a victory against the most outrageous opponent stats.

Also what victory means.. i was thinking to have the opponents decide intention BEFORE fight then consider it a loss or a win based on what came out.. anyway, all this is just ideas wanderibg aroubd lonely in my head, i will give them shape once i know if this new combat mode remains or not. So far the feedback was incredibly negative and i kind of lost enthusiasm for it for now. I want to add more cards to each crit but i womt spend more money and time and nerves on something that will probably be voted against in the end.

i see the "keep both" option wins, but too few votes to base in on vote only.

I am thinking make the new fight mode less vulnerable to huge stats differences, and trigger it automatically when two fight that are both on and have a huge ststs diff. This way, fighting anyone and still having a chance to win would still make sense.

if the participants cummulated skills are not an order of magnitude different, the old fight mechanics will be available too (maybe i even simplyfy it).

maybe drop mp level fight restriction in favor of a more strategic turn based card fight..

attacking or being attacked by an overwhelming opponent, will force card fights automatically.

skills you obtain in altars will have an option to be turned into a card instead of applying to your profile.

Creatures already support custom cards via shard abilities, i think this info needs to be visible in the altar somehow.

if you present your ideas succintly, i will give them more thought, otherwise its lilely i will read longer replies after i implement some of these plans

so card fights will ignore profile stats, focus will be on strategy

i will add some way to convert permanent stats into play cards

not sure about price, how much stats should give you a play card?

player A has 20 atack

player B has 200bilion atack

how much would be fair to pay in skill points for an additional chaotic strikes card on a given crit? (play cards will be different). 20% of stats? a fixed amount? think that resulting card will be equally valuable for both during a card fight.

The issue with using % as a cost for doing something, is you disincentive any extra effort to get the thing you use, in this case stats, so I'd prefer a fixed amount.

percentage has also other issues thats why i didnt just do it so. so nobody has any goodd suggestions, i guess you will have to survive with whatever i will do then.

The ability to craft cards, for each creature - sacrifice a creature at max level to get the ability to do so, plus some other card related resources.

Likewise, certain items enhance existing or give different abilities, perhaps ones it cannot normally obtain - aromatic tea gives Regenerate, death spore Steal Life etc.

The ability for the Forge to also create creature cards - I think most species have a card available in the MD Shop, not sure though.

Also, the ability to cast spells mid-fight, within the chat there, that only apply to that fight - might allow some more OP spells ;) A real Magic Duel!

not sure if to mix spellcasting inside the fights chat, as most spells would not influence the fight anyway...buuut, magic cards to play during the fight yes. Already working on having cards unassigned to creatures, you will see soon

On 9/14/2026 at 2:52 PM, Ledah said:

Also, the ability to cast spells mid-fight, within the chat there, that only apply to that fight - might allow some more OP spells ;) A real Magic Duel!

like announced, i have a better solution for a real magic duel. spelldocs are being implemented as fight patterns, combos, with those effects.

So I've been experimenting with the card system a little bit, trying to build a chain, and noticed the chain cards work a little weird.

You seem to need to play salt twice in a row before you can add sulfur, and mercury cards only target your own creatures, even if you have a chain going, so you can never finish your own chains. Not sure if this is intentional, but if so it is very confusing.

Edited yesterday at 03:07 PM1 day by Kaya

its work in full progress .. honestly i didnt test it yet, i still have to add some more, then i test, in a few days. i badly need help with this, but not vague impressions. If you notice repeatable issues, tell me exact what cards and combat id, and i will check it faster. Otherwise, it possible you checked as i was changing things... i dont know.

Edit : Redacted

Edited 9 hours ago9 hr by Fang Archbane