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Happy Birthday Jester :)

Dont have acces to MD atm, technically it should be removed midday due to tradition, but Mur is doing it so... Next week? :P

Yes

Early in the games start, there were moderators. Then their roles changed to "live help" and many of these players were the old moderators. I have been consistently reiterating that LHO's now are not moderators. They may have this role from other positions they hold but being a LHO does not make you a moderator.

As a note on creatures, since art people are prettymuch "MD buying it" they will always undervalue the value.

I believe this guide can go on the wiki, since it may have some general answers/faq type questions but it will just make it easier to edit and such.

LHO will not be dealing out judgements or punishment. I generally consider them to help newbies and be general advice but not necessarily an authority on rules.

Simply put, we are probably not going to use absolute positioning. The code just needs some cleaning, its a throwback from the old old old days. Its never been properly changed and made nice with new stuff.

I would agree, for the most part. There are cases where some people who are not currently LHO, could do a damn good job.

I am using google chrome, latest. As I said >>This is a known issue but will be fixed in the future when I have finalised work on HTML5 interface. Its not being fixed now is because im going to have to adjust how it works out the "length" of the page a couple times, and I dont want to waste time doing it each and every single time I modify it all.

Recently a LHO was expediated through the system, there does not seem to have been a massive issue with this, so perhaps this is the way to go? There have been lots of problems in the past where LHO's sat in the waiting cue for months. Idea: Someone applies via any LHO, this is posted on their forum. A weeks discussion is held and open for all LHO's to discuss. After that a vote is held and an opinion formed. If the vote is a yes, then they are entered, and the post it hidden (like it is now) this lets everyone be entirely honest about what they think. If its no the person who originally was asked to post the topic relays this back and any reasons (note only reasons that people explictly say can be made public, will be, dont just copy peoples personal views).

There is no right answer, its your opinion :) I have a vague idea of what I think, but im looking for others opinions too.

Grido and I are of the opinion that, if there was a simple drop in replacement for him, we would do it without a moments hesitation. We would both probably replace him with Burns but burns is inactive to the same level of grido. So we would lose the regularity of Grido applying the same "gridoness" to the situation (possibly giving us less fair decisions due to the change) and gain nothing. These methods are ideally, to be developed so that no player needs to do this large role alone. If there was one player who could then we would just shift it all to them. I think we can all see that all the jobs Grido does, is too much for one person. The single manager position works well for smaller groups, but it doesnt scale. More people causes a lot more complexity and it is generally accepted that the fewer "managers" the smoother something can run. But there comes lots of points where you need more managers to get it done faster, and I think we are at this point.

Thank you :) Now we have at least one person who will help out this job, we need to focus on "What is a LHO" and then "What should we be looking in a LHO". Stage 2 of this topic: What is a LHO and what do they mean to us now? http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/16427-lho-improvements-what-is-a-lho-and-what-qualities-should-they-have/

As part of the LHO improvements I am suggesting we implement, this is stage two of finding some LHO recruiters - http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/16402-lho-improvements-recruitment-agent/ Now we have someone who could act as this recruiter, we need to first define, or redefine what a LHO should be, what they should do, and therefore what qualities they should have. Once we know what LHO's should be nowadays, we can look into who we should be recruiting and how.

Merely how I wrote it. I have no issue if we replace grido, or entirely remove the LHO leader. Until that decision has been decided on, he is still the LHO leader. I personally believe that we need _someone_ as a head or some structure. I wont be removing him until we have a solid structure in place or a new player. I meant a new topic, im trying to keep these things separate, I can move these comments to an entirely new topic if you wish? I disagree, Adding a whole new system of recruitment, having a guide, and changing how LHO's can work is massive. But if you disagree, I will again ask you to make a new topic so we can discuss your plans :) --- Im not trying to stick to a current system, im trying to get the best system. But people just complain and never actually help improve it. So if I have no recommendations to improve it, its going to be changed how I want. My worst solution, is better than everyone elses when they dont bother to post it and just attack all ideas. Because your perfect solution is worthless when we dont know of it and cant implement it. Note: "your perfect solution" is not an attack on Rheagar, just a general point and general problem in MD that people attack ideas but never present better ones. Iv seen a problem with LHO, I talked to people, these are the points Grido and I came up with. In all that time no one else presented any issues, so these are mine and some of the ideas I had to fix them.

I havent seen anyone volunteer to help (as I remember) so atm, none.

If there is going to be more than one person, they would be in charge of dealing with the applicant. The overall decision would have to be made by some kind of agreed vote by LHO's or a similar group.

How would you imagine this work? What would their jobs be? The main point for me, would be that the person/s doing this would be the main point of contact, talk to LHO's etc. Specifically appointing people means you have a specific point of contact.

These are individual topics, none of which relate specifically to who leads the LHO group. All the ideas will work with grido, or any other leader. I see them as different points so if you want to address the whole topic of replacing Grido, this is not the place to do so. Primarily they all focus on removing work from the LHO leader so that Grido, or whatever new LHO leader replaces him has to do less work. Grido has stated that he feels that if there is a better person to do his job, they should stand up. I am of the opinion that currently there are not many people who have the time to do what Grido does. Nor do I think Grido fits this either, he is too busy. If you feel the LHO's should be leaderless and entirely public, then again I suggest you make another post. There have been separate posts for a very important reason, each idea of independent of the others, and can be implemented in part, or with all other ideas. They are also independent of who leads the LHO. Please keep them separate.

It seems that the current process seems to work well then. Formalising it at: Promotion: publicly announce on forum, full details to LHO's so they know what they are looking for ina LHO Not promoting someone: privately announce to LHO's, and message to the person Demotion: privately announce to LHO's so they know the reasons, and message to the person --- All of this was done, except the telling LHO's privately, which sounds like a good plan. But it has mostly been working from the lack of complaints.

Grido, comments? It seems like many people feel asking the current LHO's can be benifitial, but raised concern that Grido sometimes ignores his general procedure and does what he wants, see: sasha Does anyone feel they are up to the task of becoming some kind of recruiter to handle this in lieu of Grido being exceptionally busy?

Grido, Any further comments? Does no one have any other comments? I dont see some of the people that were most vocal? Bump?

So, do others have no comments on Gridos post?

See: Its possible this text is hidden by some browsers, behind the creatures. This is a known issue but will be fixed in the future when I have finalised work on HTML5 interface.