Jubaris

happy birthday Mr Mystery!

"the cream of the crop" dragon is a very nice one. My suggestion is for Rensak, the Renavoid's Wind Dragon to take it

Happy birthday Sparrhawk! may your heart and spirit never lose their strength

same error appeared when i tried to attack Tankfans... now I know why

Something similar was planned for Savelite summer festival. If it is without tokens, then those with high stats (like Mike ) naturally win. The best (in sense of no privileged ones) would be only lorerootian creatures (without the grassan) on 0% and no tokens at all, but the tournament should be announced about one month before so the players have an equal chance of raising those creatures and participating.

tournament with Lorerootian creatures... it's just that one rule, participants can use tokens, or stats influence?

pmed you in game already but if it makes any difference, I'll post it here too. in game name: Princ Rhaegar Citizen of Marind Bell

it's not me... but I took part in getting him there! Number of the beast sure does haunt this site often. [img]http://www.dodaj.rs/f/1A/yC/Nvo66up/honor.jpg[/img]

Happy birthday Tarq

rustgold sold! santa remains, which will likely be immortalized in my possession if nothing new happens here, muhahahaha

if no better offers till then, rustgold selling in 2 days

you're gonna make me hurry up my auction! grrr

bump, updated offer for a rusty

hah, good one Shadowseeker, but I think I'll pass btw: If those free credits are still out, I wont have enough money to get my reindrach in christmas, and I'll be "forced" to keep one of the rusties. Now I don't know what's the general state in MD since I was away for 7-8 days, and MD lags so much I can't open my mail box, nor the announcements One rusty will probably have to be withdrawn from the auction

[quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1286566680' post='69934'] The 'blank part' you are referring to, when the 'artist gets on stage'... how do you wish to consider this important and at the same time ridicule the legend speakers and archives. Calling them less important when they are actually a prominent example of free speech. Alas they don't fit your 'requirements' because they are not free enough by 'default'. Oh, you're definitely not trying to degrade MDA, you're trying to degrade the whole MD population by dismissing valid arguments based upon your subjective judgements; your authority. Proving by intimidation that MD is not free, oh irony! [/quote] first, about this. I explained what I meant when referring to MDA lands, I didn't call it as unimportant. I said clearly there that MDA has a clear function - all kinds of supporting guilds, recording events, writing poems...advertisers were there, artisans... and such. Archivists are still there, Legend Speakers most active. MDA is limited in sense that it doesn't have it's own identity, but is a land that does projects for the whole community, and that is said from my perspective - when talking about culture-making, in separate communities rather than on the level of whole realm (in that case MD applies functionalism, where everyone has a role to achieve for the "greater good". I think that's how it worked before, even when the kings came whole community voted for candidates of each land, only shortly after that Mur started to make separate entities as lands, at least that's how it looks like.) [b]I'm saying that MD loses it's space for creation of cultures/civilizations (maybe you didn't understand what was I pointing at when saying cultures) when it creates official representatives for each land.[/b] I don't know how to simplify it more for you to understand. That is the essence of the topic. you said this "The 'fixed' has been contested repeatedly already. The 'only' is also contestable, eg. for Necrovion I can think of six characters that have a 'cultural advantage'. I have yet to witness any of the kings try to dominate the interpretation market, with the emphasis on attempting." of course that the Kings can dominate the realization of interpretations when they want to, since their positions do just that - doing a realization of an interpretation. Maybe a King doesn't want to do that, but the position allows him/her to. And that is by default of the game.

Kyphis, Archives are neutral, and have a function as a land, it's like a supporting unit in a way. Not much free space there, since it is limited by default. (I'm not trying to degrade MDA, please don't get insulted, it is not my intent. I'm pointing out that Archives do not fit "my requirements" of a free land that could go in whatever way if it "wants" to) Underground only has DST's alliance and it's function is to collect people that know how to abuse game mechanics or whatever it is meant to do As a land, sure it sounds nice for RPing, but how to assign it as your homeland? Without making dst a queen, the only way is to form a new alliance. It requires some influence, shouting around and advertising how certain someone has a group to be formed as an alliance... That idea fell to my mind and maybe I could develop something like that out of the shattered influence I remained with, but what would a new person do? What are the chances that someone "fresh" makes a new alliance? It might be possible, I don't know Mur's opinion on that, but the one thing that is known about alliance-making, is that not one alliance was made by request of another players since Knights of the Bell. Cryxus had his pirates for period of time, and still he didn't get an alliance. But I don't know much details about that one, maybe the story has it's own reasons to tell. But maybe being "handicap" without a tag about your homeland isn't that big of a deal... Just live there and make it your homeland That might be ok for a MD life of one person that wish to be alone in the game, but that's it. If someone wants to gather some people around an idea, common interests, it would be pretty hard, since it ain't that attractive to join a group while there are so many others that have all the privileges of being an official group. In any case, those requirements of being free only Underground fills for now. And that is adequate for you? what Fyrd's think of as main issue in kingships is obviously WP codes but thumbs up, I think that should be changed too. Also, it would be unpolitical from my side to say I like your coup ideas too. Saying from a point in time where Kings are still pretty much safe, I support also the idea that Kings pull power based on the quantity (or quality?? like those loyalty scores that were implemented recently...) of their "subjects". But I think cause of those loyalty scores, game is already heading that way.

Kafuuka, the basis is the free flow of thoughts which leads to culture (you shouldn't look at my words strictly since I present things relatively here). Yes AL gives the info about nature of the realm, but that wasn't my point, I was pointing out at the "blank" part of the realm where imagination comes, and artistic minds get to the "stage". we are getting a bit offtopic, but to answer - Magnus, you said "we have the freedom to do anything we want but it doesn't mean it'll get approved. " - but that isn't freedom. the point is, if someone forces his way to become leader of a group and acts like a dictator, ok, you can't do anything about it, you were beaten, the dude has "gorillas" with high stats to defend and enforce his word, etc. But it's different getting it via realistic RP than the "god" overpowering a new position. I don't know do you understand me. I'm uneased that wherever you go, you are dependent on the vision of others. Rare are the places where "free flow of the thoughts" is welcome. It's my feel, maybe you people ain't that troubled by anything.

I have a lot to say about all of that, but we went too much off the course. All offtopics can and will be be discussed in any message directed at me or in any other new topic if you want it so. I also mentioned number of things that are drawing attention away from the main post and the essence. [b]Ok so I'll summarize it. [/b] MD was made in that way that viewers fill it with their own thoughts (semi-finished drawings done in white and black, and such. Everything is evolving around imagination), and that's what makes it so great for artists. Mainlands backgrounds are supposed to be the most important thing in all that. If you drop in a fixed authority as the only one to represent the land, you limit all the imagination to that one man/woman, you are eliminating other interpretations (for example, Ravenstrider thinks Loreroot should be a dark, mysterious, dangerous forest, while someone else thinks of it as a cookie farm diversity of thoughts, yey). Now, that can be lesser evil if all those that represent their lands (4) materialize and follow a certain vision, that gives some activity to the realm, everyone working towards that vision, there are some events on level of a kingdom, or on an "international" level. I don't see that... (one vision for one land, not one vision for everyone ) That's why I think authorities on that level limit things and "ruin" the game, especially if treated that badly. Kings were brought for a reason, but I don't see the product of their making.

[quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1286465766' post='69838'] I still don't understand what you are saying here Rhaegar. By this: "[i]since you busted my motives to live in an equal-chanced society[/i]" are you suggesting we turn MD into a communist society? I mean what is it you are suggesting here? [/quote] difference is clear (I knew someone would mention communism if I said equal, so I added "chanced"), not equal-class but equal-chanced society, in sense that one doesn't have advantages of Mur's privileges against another. This is generalizing, which I don't like to do, you can't apply one rule on everything, considering these are relative terms, and I responded to DST's usual hate mail, so I would like it better if we stay on something concrete. [quote] Everyone in MD DOES have an equal chance to achieve anything they want to if they work for it. These set authority powers you talk about didn't enter the game like that, they all worked hard and were rewarded for efforts they made, and more often than not have been supported by the community when they achieved reward - and as I said before, Kings were voted in they didnt just get handed the poition on a plate, everyone had the right to stand. Will people who do things that turn the game in a way the game maker doesn't want get rewarded - unlikely. Should that be a surprise? - no. [/quote] how can you say that?! and how can you support a popularity contest?! it's ridiculous. how would you call "candidate and vote" reward-based competition? I'll just mention this, without pointing out names, but just look at the votes of kingships, its candidates, and check those lower-ranked, how much votes they received, and point finger in your forehead asking yourself: what da hell? (in sense that there were some ridiculous candidacies that gained should-not-be-overlooked number of votes) and reason of that is to see the pointlessness of having votes for something like that with simple "yes or no" answers. it's serving on a plate to me at least. the authority of a king is permanent and was forced into the game, and it is a feature that influences others in very great way. [quote] I'd also appreciate if when you talk about Tengri, you say Tengri, because T and Z are two totally independent characters - and there are already enough rumours and mess about me going around without adding to that (yes, Im looking at you guys, you know who you are). I get that you refer to me the player, but please, if you could. Tengri is a different situation to kings or LHO, totally different. Seeing as I never mentionned who I was and you never knew T existed - it gave me no mental authority over anyone. It is also one of those situations where the game maker wanted to implement something and used a player based on his views of people in game and what they have done - so again not just handed on a plate to any old person without them having to have done things to be given such a position. Any authority anyone gives to me now, that they wouldnt have given to me before, is either sheer paranoia that I can do things I in fact can't, or it's because of things I may know - and anyone in game can be given that authority if they do their research etc. [/quote] when I mentioned Tengri in that way, I mentioned accounts that have/had authority (I'm not sure on all the abilities Tengri had), that doesn't necessarily mean that they used their authority in a damaging way (there was a question to name the other authorities). My apologizes for identifying Zleiphneir and Tengri as one and the same, but I don't know your name and Zleiphneir has two meanings, person and a player, and I referred Zleiphneir as a person there. I won't do it again. [quote] I mean, I have to agree with dst. It does seem like this is another attack of jealousy. Maybe I'm just not understanding, or maybe you arn't putting it across well enough. Either way, I still don't see how any of the points being made are valid. Z [/quote] another attack of jealousy? pfff believe her biased spitting-offs if you want about my motives, my facts stand, that there are authorities in a game, the difference is that number of you don't see them as damaging as I see. Saying that implementing of authorities doesn't change a thing or something similar as that is simply ignorant. There are many perspectives on such things, and I'm just pointing one of them... it was meant to be a discussion on how the system works, how does it affect others and number of different opinions about the system. everything has it's light and bad side, and all the time in MD I keep running on people that refuse to accept the fact that nothing can be perfectly done. It's kind of a shock to me how you all just accept such drastic changes lightheartedly, I mean fixed authorities ain't that small thing, and yet you all talk about it like it's perfectly normal... [b]I'll make a summarization in an hour or two, need to take care of some things at home, have little time to sit down properly[/b]