Kyphis the Bard

(I meant to post this last night, but for some reason it didn't post. Haven't read further than it was last night, at Udgards post after Mur's, so sorry if I repeat anything) I think a combination of those actions would be best. Identify the items that are both most simple and useful to MD (for example, a barrel, which anyone could use, or a book, or things like that) and have them on the automated (ie loan) system. For slightly more specialized items (cooking knives, flutes, tome of magic knowledge, etc) assign them based on people who have shown an aptitude/interest in that role play. For the more valuable specialized items (Violins, Sphere of Memories, and other artifact grade things) use the third option, of "buying" it via discussion.

Hope you have a good one.

You will be in my prayers, dear friend.

I may have something for you to do, if you like talking to people but aren't sure of what role you would like... Contact me if you are interested, I think you will like working for me

Damnit Eggs, you PMed me 2 minutes after I logged out! For that, you MUST return >:3

The Legend Speakers are also sponsoring the event with a variety of other prizes, including such things as Credits and Coins, as well as a lot of other special things. The Speakers will always aim to have a member in attendance to each event, and we look forward to seeing all your various forms of narrative, be it story, song, poem, or drama. We wish you the best of luck, Kyphis, Leader of the Legend Speakers

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[quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1282909971' post='67132'] I will also point out this from a kingship point of view. The kingship has the power to get changes done to their lands and alliance we DO NOT have the same power to do this to lands out side of our kingdoms So in this the kingship should not have to be preasured to give WP codes to lands outside What would happen if the kingship started making changes to your alliances you would all go crazy and complain and say we have no right The same can be said in return to you all asking for wp codes from the kings you have no right to ask yet we have done on many ocasions given this. This topic is a bad way to go about it and could only push the kings into keeping the codes for the land they run. You are non allianed land and have no kingship to get codes from so instead of complaining about that why not find a way to have the same ablities within thoes lands. It cannot be that difficult to figure out how. [/quote] I apologize if you feel this topic is meant to pressure you into giving outsiders wishpoints, I have stated many times that that was not my intent. My intent is to get a statement of policy from the kings about whether or not they would be willing to sponsor wishpoints to outsiders, and what sort of conditions they may have. I thankyou for your generosity and time, I will update the first post with your policy shortly.

There where a small number of posts I didn't read, but here is my suggestion: For MP3: I disagree with removing the ability to access the MD Shop, as that will not help them at all. What I suggest is limiting their access so they can't get the Rustgold or TS, or the Ritual of Self Oblivion, or the more powerful tokens. This can be achieved by adding an MP limit to those items, and an MP limit to receiving those creatures via CTC. I also suggest removing access to the experience reset Wish, or limiting it to one. Again, can be done with MP level requirements. I think Fyrd's suggestion of removing sacc rewards is good, but I think temporary effects should still apply. I also think that the experience loss from sacrifice should be removed for MP3. I think there should be a notice on the Fenths saying that when advanced you can get permanent stats from sacrificing. This doesn't limit game play much, and allows MP3 to be able to see the benefits of advancing (more shop access, wishes, and stat gaining methods) For MP4: I would suggest just limiting the amount of stats gained per sacrifice (for the stats that have a variable increase based on how you raise the creature), and leaving everything else the same. There are a lot of players who play MP4 as an actual part of their role, and they shouldn't be restricted. This allows players to get a further understanding of the tools they have, a wider access to creatures, and even for those who stay MP4 for their roles (Z, for example) to not be restricted (since few of the MP4 who are there for roles seem to have much interest in combat)

This one is my favourite of your work so far I think this line doesn't quite fit, though: [quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1283027251' post='67245'] Ride with me, ride really fast [/quote] It makes me think of a scene in one of my writings in which a group of riders is trying to outrun a wave of death and reach sanctuary.

I have known february almost his entire time in game (on this account) I have worked with him many times, and I DO like him. I consider him a good friend. I spent a long time at MP3, and now also at MP4. However, I Rarely fought (except when helping the Dojo/SG or participating in heads). There are almost No instances where I gave people unwanted experience, and while I certainly could beat MP5 on my own merit (the weaker ones at least ) I never sat around with impossible defenses. My reasons for being MP3/4 had/have nothing to do with combat, and are all about my role. I will, in fact, be moving up to MP5 soon*. That said, I don't see any reason for february to stay MP3. He doesn't have a role that requires him to be MP3, and he does sit around with rituals that are a negative impact on new players perceptions of MD. I am for forcing him to go up, but I hope he will take proper heed of this topic and advance himself. *disclaimer: soon is not a measurement of time

[quote name='Blackwoodforest' timestamp='1282113171' post='66423'] "No one" is a player [/quote] He would have to be. The adept box doesn't accept any names not associated with a player. More on topic: I can't confirm this, since I wasn't interested at the time (so hopefully someone else can confirm or deny this), but I have heard you loose your mentor and protector when you advance MP level, and need to set them again. Edit: Grido has informed us this in inaccurate (see below)

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Aye, that is my intent. I would have preferred not to have names stated, but that is the current situation. This topic isn't about changing the kings attitudes or policies, but simply to have them publicly established so that both the public will have a greater ability to gauge who to petition for patronage for their quests, and so that, for my own alliance and land at least, I may begin more private discussions about policy. I appreciate your feedback, Firsanthalas, and hope that the other kings will post soon.

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Sorry, only have about 5 minutes of net a day right now >_< And must have done my math wrong, was in a lot of a rush >.> (obviously)

I don't normally indulge in creature or item trading, however... 9 gold for the Dark, and I can increase that.

[quote name='dragonrider7' date='02 August 2010 - 12:38 PM' timestamp='1280713094' post='64946'] Hi, I personally feel that browsing through the avatar list to be made free, so that the player can browse and get his fav avatar. He doesnt have to waste his credit. For a free credit person like me, a single credit is very important. Can it be made a scrollable page? -dragonrider [/quote] It used to be that the avatar list showed the most recent avatars (gold avatars first if you had access), however mur changed it to the current method so that all avatars would have a chance to be purchased, without changing the amount of credits spent on avatars. If you want to be able to get an avatar you really want, then you do have the option to trade other players for avatars they have obtained, or simply make your own avatar to either use or sell for credits. It can be hard to learn how to get avatars accpeted, but once you understand the system, you can get a lot of credits quickly. However, you do need a scanner to do that

Bugger... I move house on Tuesday, and probably won't have internet access for a while... Ah well, I wish the best of luck to all participants

Ah, good luck Cutler. Hope he behaves himself, for your sake You have a hell of a job ahead of you...

Not even all the Altars are sanctuaries, for example Wasps in Loreroot, and the Fenth in Marinds Bell. EDIT: For what possible reason could this post have been given -3 rep? It shouldn't have been given + OR - rep

[quote name='Kyphis the Bard' date='30 July 2010 - 11:33 AM' timestamp='1280450003' post='64774'] Fyrd Argentus has brought to my attention the difficulties he has faced in getting Wishpoints to reward for his quests. While he has been able to get them from three of the kings, which he is grateful for, it has been a struggle to do so. [/quote] [quote name='Firsanthalas' date='30 July 2010 - 11:57 PM' timestamp='1280494668' post='64789'] Sorry, but I am not sure that I follow. I have already given Fyrd WPs for rewards and agreed to give him some more. I am not at all happy with someone saying otherwise. ---------------- For the record I dislike when people make sweeping statements like this, which I feel are totally untrue, in my case at least. [/quote] Yes, in your case, it is untrue. However, I had intentionally left it vague, as Kafuuka guessed, to avoid naming the one king who has been the most hardline about not giving Wishpoint Codes outside his land. Because I do not wish for anyone to be given flak for this, I would appreciate if none of the other kings state if they have or have not given codes when they reply. I know who has, and to what extent as well. If anyone really wants to know, all the information is already available. Muratus' earlier directives, and even his post in this topic, show direct support for a hardline approach against Wishpoint Codes going to quest creators outside the Kings lands. Any king who doesn't wish to sponsor quests external to their lands is completely within their rights and responsibilities to do so. However, Muratus also stated that the Kings have their own lee-way on how they manage their resources, and how they apply the rules for benefiting their own lands. In this manner, the kings also have the freedom to support quests outside their own lands with whatever resources they wish, so long as it benefits their lands in some manner (be that through resources, work, or simple reputation) Thankyou, Firsanthalas, for replying to the topic. I'll be contacting you privately to find out what that project that was never completed was, and see if I can organise something.

[quote name='Pipstickz' date='30 July 2010 - 05:02 PM' timestamp='1280469749' post='64779'] What's to stop someone from writing some neat stories, joining your alliance, getting WP codes, and then leaving without making a quest? [/quote] That has nothing to do with what is being discussed. This topic is not about getting Wishpoint codes given to the MDA for when they have quests, it is about finding out the kings stance on sponsoring quests that are already ready to run. Since the MDA is not affiliated with any of the four main lands, it would be idiotic for someone to join it for the reason of getting WP's from the kings. I fully expect that any of the kings willing to show their support of the MDA Quest creators would exercise more scrutiny than they would for their own lands. If anyone was going to be so selfish as to do that, they would join and drop one of the main lands. Please stay on topic. [quote name='Pipstickz' date='30 July 2010 - 05:02 PM' timestamp='1280469749' post='64779'] Sidenote: Kyphis, the best way to have a role or position "made", as you state it, is to do that role. Do you think Khalazdad became king of Necrovion by just sitting and waiting for Mur, or someone else to notice? Of course, the position of Master Archivist already exists, there's just nobody who's doing that at the moment. If you want it, be brave and take it, and if the community doesn't like it, they'll tell you. [/quote] I am fully aware of the way this all works, Pip. When I am ready for the role of Master Archivist, I will step up to it. However, I am currently not ready for that. Also, the role described by Mya Celestia was an amalgamation of the old Master Archivist role and the new Kings role. If someone where to be in the old position of Master Archivist, as it used to be, the only difference would be that I would ask them to post this topic, instead of doing it myself. However, this is completely offtopic. Please stay on topic.

[quote name='Mya Celestia' date='30 July 2010 - 01:17 PM' timestamp='1280456245' post='64775'] [color="#8B0000"][font="Palatino Linotype"]Maybe what's needed here is an MDA Chief Librarian. Not with the same power as a king, but someone that can perhaps keep an eye on the MDA alliances as a whole. This person could be in charge of a certain number of wps or wp codes. The Chief could also coordinate with the kings for any needs the main lands require. Just a thought.[/font][/color] [/quote] I would actually like to see that position made, and have in fact been working toward that goal for a very long time. Being that the MDA is a neutral land, it should not have someone with anything like the power of a King. However, it has a high role within the realm, and does require someone to manage it to an extent. That said, currently there are no people both capable or willing to fill the role at this point. While I would certainly love that role, I am by no means ready for it yet. Part of the aim of this discussion is to identify the attitudes of the various kings towards collaborative work within the MDA. This topic is to serve as a springboard for further discussion, in a more private capacity, for how the MDA and the four mainlands can work together for the benefit of the whole MD community.

Fyrd Argentus has brought to my attention the difficulties he has faced in getting Wishpoints to reward for his quests. While he has been able to get them from three of the kings, which he is grateful for, it has been a struggle to do so. The MDA Typically recruits the more creative members of the realm. However, with the situation as is, many who may otherwise join are reluctant to do so. The inability to get support from the four mainlands kings for quest rewards, a major creative outlet and method of giving back to the realm, prevents a lot of people I have attempted to recruit from considering joining. While the MDA is not a mainland, it's work is focused on the whole community of MD, indiscriminately. We have had four alliances associated with the MDA: The Advertisers, responsible for encouraging people to come to MD and join the community; The Archivists, responsible for recording knowledge, theories, and ideas for people to have a better understanding of how MD works; The Legend Speakers, responsible for recording the histories of players exploits, and teaching the philosophies behind MD (the ones we know, at least); and the Crafters, now of Loreroot, responsible for creating the majority of items available in MD. All of those roles are of benefit to the whole community, not just the MDA. However, with the current system for rewarding codes, it seems we are being discriminated against. [b]Just to be clear, this is not about winning Wishpoints, but about getting codes to award.[/b] I seek out creative minded people who are likely to flourish within the Legend Speaker Role when I recruit people. I am incredibly selective, and don't make offers lightly. However, the kind of people who I recruit are also the sort of people who are interested in making interesting, and challenging quests for the benefit of the realm. For example, Fyrd's Road Rallies, which work hard to eliminate discrimination of internet speed and award large volumes of prizes; and the Large Scale quest I have been working on for the past year which deals heavily with social interaction. I am award that the issue of WP awarding was discussed in March, and have read through the previous topic. However, of what was discussed, only the following two posts are fully relevant: [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/6673-about-wps-and-the-codes/page__st__8"]Yrthilian quotes Mur's directives on WP Code handling[/url] [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/6673-about-wps-and-the-codes/page__st__10"]Mur reiterates his stance on Land Allegiance, and its consequences[/url] [Color="red"]Please do not discuss what that topic is about here, as it is for the most part not what I am discussing. The situation that prompted that topic no longer (as far as I know) exists.[/color] I fully understand not giving WP codes to people of no land, or of a land with another king. However, I would like to hear from each of the four kings what their stance is on giving WP codes to members of the MDA specifically, to support quest creation. I don't care if you haven't been asked, and I don't care [much] about your stance on other lands. All I am interested in is a public statement from each of the kings saying if they would be willing to sponsor MDA citizens quests, and why or why not. This way, people will be better informed when asking for Wishpoint codes as to who to ask, and what they will need to do in advance to improve their chances. [b]Just a reminder, this is not about Wishpoints themselves, but the codes (Which, unlike the Wishpoints, DO belong to the land)[/b] Thankyou for your time, Kyphis, Leader of the Legend Speakers [u][b]Loreroot:[/b][/u] [quote name='Firsanthalas' date='30 July 2010 - 11:57 PM' timestamp='1280494668' post='64789'] In general the only time I refuse WPs reward requests from someone is if: [b]a:[/b] They should be getting the WPs from their own king [b]b:[/b] I feel I am giving too many to this individual [b]c:[/b] I feel the quest just doesn't warrant it [b]d:[/b] If I am being asked after the fact (yes, I have been asked for WP rewards AFTER someone ran their quest) I want to add that it is exceedingly rare that I refuse someone point blank (unless one or more of the above situations is true) [/quote] [u][b]Golemus Golemicarum:[/b][/u] [quote name='Yrthilian' timestamp='1282909971' post='67132'] My policy on the WP's and their codes. Most codes are for Golemus people running quests But i will at time give code to non land people. I have done this many time and as it is mentioned about i accept some quest and will support them and other i wont. There is not clear cut selection process. I put asside a small amount of WP's to be used by non land players I have even run quets myself or puzzels that will give the player a WP or WP code they get asked at the time if the want the code for use in quests of their own. I believe i have mentioned this before on the forums on how i give out codes and that i can be approached in all the diffrent form of contact that i have let people know of. [/quote]