Seigheart

Well, the way I see it is that the party behind having me killed wants me to go the same way Spart went. I'm wondering whether the rest of MD feels the same or not. PS I don't want people saying I should stay or not, that's not what this is for.

Just curious as to the general publics opinion

The TKs would like a private plot to grow money in.

Sponsored with a WP from the TK.

[quote]RE~3: Untitled Not ignoring this, just calculating a few things. --Grido[/quote] So, in the two or so minutes of this "calculating" you were contacted by an unknown party telling you not to revive me, even though what we discussed was completely private? How would this person know what I asked you, if you were not aware of who killed me? Why would they threaten to kill you if you revived me for less than 35gc? That in itself is called Extorcion. They are threatening you, by using the kill item if you don't deny me use of the revival tool. Through inaction, you are effectively aiding and abeiting a murderer. [quote]I also stated that the person coercing me is not obtaining anything from this, and so that it is not extortion either[/quote] They are getting the denial of service to me.

Earlier today I had asked Grido if he would revive me. He said that he would, but there would be a price associated with the revival. The price was 35 GC. Why? Because the "party" that had killed me, has threatened to kill Grido if he revived me for any less. Now, I believe that this is extortion and extortion is illegal. [quote[b]]Extortion[/b] (also called [b]blackmail[/b], [b]shakedown[/b], [b]outwresting[/b], and [b]exaction[/b]) is a [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime"]criminal offence[/url] which occurs when a person [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unlawful"]unlawfully[/url] obtains either money, property or services from a person(s), entity, or institution, through [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coercion"]coercion[/url].[/quote] This is exactly what is happening here. Grido is being coerced into extorting me. [quote][b]Coercion[/b] ([img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/8a/Loudspeaker.svg/11px-Loudspeaker.svg.png[/img] [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English"]/[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key"]k[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key"]oʊ[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key"]ˈ[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key"]ɜr[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key"]ʃ[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English#Key"]ən[/url][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:IPA_for_English"]/[/url]) is the practice of forcing another party to behave in an involuntary manner (whether through action or inaction) by use of [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Threat"]threats[/url] or [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intimidation"]intimidation[/url] or some other form of pressure or force[/quote] I would like to see what the community thinks of this before I persue legal action. [quote] [b]Original message:[/b] Will you revive me? [url="javascript:toggle(reptomsgdiv);"]Original message[/url] RE~1: Untitled There's a cost for everything. But if it's met, certainly. --Grido [b]Your reply to this message:[/b] What would that cost be? RE~3: Untitled Not ignoring this, just calculating a few things. --Grido [b]Your reply to this message:[/b] Okay. RE~3: Untitled It would seem that if I want to stay alive myself, I have to charge 35 Gold - I will note that the person who issued the threat towards me isn't getting any of that, they just want to force you to pay that much. --Grido [b]Your reply to this message:[/b] That is called extortion and is illegal. RE~5: Untitled It would be extortion if they obtained something from this. This is something entirely different...still wrong, but not extortion. Either way, my apparent options are to charge you less - probably the same as I asked Spar, 20gc - and get killed. Or to charge you the 35gc and live. --Grido [/quote]

Good thing Mur didn't see this, otherwise he might have forced this selfpunishment on you....

No, it never really occured to me. O.o I always did it out of loyalty to MD, not for the ap points or what ever.

I used the flash on my phone?

You can click and note vote, but still get the stat points?! O.o Omfg. *facepalm*

Nicely done BFH. I like the second black one the best.

I'd say create an achievement if you vote successfully on all links for a set amount of time?

I don't really care that I am dead. It's the fifth time so far. LOL

Anyone know who killed me this time?

Quests that actually engage the player, and present them a storyline. I love making them, and I love participating in them!

Mine works as well.

The Treasure Keepers have decided to hold a Bettingfest(not sure what else to call it) Basically, You choose one of the three possibilities (Team I. Team II, Team III). You place a silver/higher amount for that team to win. Once they win, you will get an equal portion in relation to your bid of the jackpot. So, if ten people bid 1g on Team A to win, and the jackpot is 100 gold. Each of you will get 10g. I will [b]not[/b] be taking any share of the winnings, what so ever. The TKs have a bid, but all winnings will be put into the TK Treasury. All silver/gold collected will be distributed amongst the winners. (In the case of any left over winnings, they will be put into the TK Treasury.) [u]TKs will put 1g on each of the Teams.[/u] Teams and participants can be found here: Team I: Fyrd Argentus dst AmberRune gonzalocsdf *MasterB* Lone Wolf Rannel Fenrar tom Pouce Team II: Maebius *Shadowseeker* Tarquinus darkraptor Soothing Sands *MRAlyon* redneck The Warrior Jubelee Team III: Chewett apophys Brulant tal *Clock Master* Ivorak Nimrodel Valldore Nal Phantom Orchid lashtal You can bid either through Forum PM, IG PM, or at the treasury email address. When you bid, please tell me which team you are bidding for. I will also be collecting all bids immediately, so that the winnings may be distributed immediately as well. Current Pot: 3g

I can confirm that.

I win! My plan worked! Neg rep me all you want, but the fact still remains that if Chewett wasn't killed, Spart wouldn't have been revived.

I'll start searching now.

Sorry Spartiatis, my attempt to revive you has failed. Good bye, and sleep well. I hope you have learned much from this realm.

I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed it, but that trigger box advert is FULL of spelling errors. And not one or two, but three of them... Sign, Thread, and the second First should be Fest I am assuming.

You should try getting different judges than your friends. Makes it less biased. Congrats to the winners, none the less.

I do have some help. And MP4 will be fine for what I am doing but, hopefully I can get them to MP5.

Taking a leaf from Chewett's book; I have created a series of 21 alts for an upcoming quest line. None of them shall be used to break any rules, nor will they be used to benefit each other, or myself. They are purely for interactibility during the quest, and for future events. Council has been made aware of their existence and purpose. They are named as followed; Treasure Guardian I Treasure Guardian II Treasure Guardian III Treasure Guardian IV Treasure Guardian V Treasure Guardian VI Treasure Guardian VII Treasure Guardian VIII Treasure Guardian IX Treasure Guardian X Treasure Guardian XI Treasure Guardian XII Treasure Guardian XIII Treasure Guardian XIV Treasure Guardian XV Treasure Guardian XVI Treasure Guardian XVII Treasure Guardian XVIII Treasure Guardian XIX Treasure Guardian XX Treasure Hero (C,E,B) You may attack them as you wish, but they will only attack back until they reach MP5 I will begin with Treasure Hero, and gradually work my way through each Guardian, from highest to lowest.