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[quote name='Chewett' timestamp='1333621317' post='108303'] since you seem disinclined to take the short walk and go check: ... Go have a look no one if you really care... [/quote] Hi Chewett, thank you for your advice, You should know me better then that. I don't really throw thing just for fun and with no reason. But ... I checked them when I last took my HerbBasket and the "Acoustic obfucators" clearly stated something like "landloyalty: 60 Loreroot". That is why I even mentioned it. As for the entire list of shared items ... i am sorry, i don't even know where all of them are located. That is why I asked for it. But you missed my point as the key words were "[b]split equitably[/b]". Are they ? Can all noobs (me included) know them all ? PLEASE

I know that this is a really old topic, but please bare with me and this topic bump. We all know that guilds have been created, heat storages have been created, items have been created for each guild. But how do the guilds work now ? Do they use heat storages ? Do they fight ? Can some one please share the status on them now ?

If the archivists still exists, maybe they should work on some lists too. Also, links to these lists should be available from within game. Proposed lists(so far): - [b]alliances [/b]- each alliance should then have it's own page with purpose of creation, creation date , leader (with periods) , disbanded on date ... etc It can be created in paralel with topic :[url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/4659-the-alliance-list/"]http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/4659-the-alliance-list/[/url]. - [b]shared items[/b]. this one is especially needed with the increased number of items shared or not. It should contain the requirements if any, location where they can be found... etc.

As requested, i am posting this in an appropriate topic: [quote name='No one' timestamp='1333462645' post='108177'] Land Loyalty : i am still waiting for you to [b]split equitably [/b]the items accross all lands. Related question : why does the Chat obfuscator requires Loreroot loyalty ? I know that it was created to be used against Dst, but still, why is she forbidden to take some (or me for that matter, or Eon or ppl from the East or GG or Necro ). [/quote] Acoustic Obfuscators: They require Loreroot loyalty. Why ? Also, as I am the oldest noob here, can someone please post a list of all shared items with their current land loyalty ? (or point me to one) Or ... please open a new topic for that so that the first post can be the updated list. This way, the we can all see better if they are properly shared & located

[u]I think that everybody needs more details on what this should do.[/u] I as know of, the "reason" of fighting can be used to do ... stuff. What is the reason to add another way ? "this change will allow people to have multiple tags and allow flash mobs of warriors to form and attack an enemy capital" there was no war in a long time? please explain this. "skilled woodcutters to be able to harvest more resources" You must be joking. Have you been checking how many resources these "gathering guilds" have been gathered/produced ? Are there any places where 5-8 ppl can join and gather more then 2 times of same ressource ? Please explain this feature.

As of my knowledge, there are few kinds of alliances: - guilds - fighting alliances - gifts - alliances made for someone with a role - admin - new stuff Guilds: research or gathering alliances. Gifts: starting with savelites, ds, mr, si and others, they all had been created with the same constrictions: if abandoned by their owner or taken from them more then twice, they can be taken and destroyed. Admin: alliances dealing with art, free credits, treasure keepers ... they have been given mostly by merit. I don't know of any reason for alliances to be forbidden to be taken over except for admin ones (most of them are well earned). Please share them with me? My point of view on my lines above : Research guilds ... whatever. They are now used as personal alliances (some exceptions may occur). Are these guilds still needed ? Are they still needed ? If not, please revert them to fighting alliances. Gathering guilds have been turned bad by using their means for personal income. If i could take them i would simply disband them all. Gifts have/had their protection. If they are doing their job, then there should be no other protection required as original owners can get them back and they are constructed based on trust. From my point of view "gift alliance" should be redeemable for ransom to last person that got & disbanded them. Some may say that once that an alliance has been abandoned/disbanded, it should be resurrected with no fee (See DS). That is not correct nor fair as some had worked hard to achieve that (not to mention that there is no medal for that). Admin alliances have been created based on personal commitment and we've seen that on most cases. Yes, i mean TK & Seig is a "joke" to this community. These alliances are under Mur's and council's protection so there is no need for extra protection. So? except from the admin alliances, why should the others have extra protection ?

@Change: it about 1-2 years or more, it might be possible that a lot of ppl left the game with a lot of loyalty with them (say 60%) . At that point ... nobody would be able to join that land ? The formula should be more elaborated. But discussing the possible issues is the way to solve it.

Hi, Here are my 2 cents: I vote none of the options ( Citizenship Alliances Tags ). As I have seen, there are 5 topics (Land Loyalty, Treasuries, Citizens, Alliances, Tagging). I will vote for Treasuries for personal reasons as I hate how the current treasurer is doing his business. As for the other topics ... i do know that I will most probably hate the changes. But since the old issues are not being finalized ... whatever you are doing will just add more ideas that are not finished. As for me having fun, here are some comments: Citizenship : I do hope that you will not remove the option of getting a citizenship by joining a alliance. And ... what will happen if none or very few will vote ? What will happen with ppl that become inactive with a big portion of land loyalty , how will this be accieved : "to reach a certain percentage of the total land loyalty of all the current citizens in order to be admitted" ? Land Loyalty : i am still waiting for you to [b]split equitably [/b]the items accross all lands. Related question : why does the Chat obfuscator requires Loreroot loyalty ? I know that it was created to be used against Dst, but still, why is she forbidden to take some (or me for that matter, or Eon or ppl from the East or GG or Necro ). Treasuries : the idea is good (remove the items for Fenrir) but the terms are so generic that I am sure will not cover all abuses. Therefor I will apply for a treasury myself (as my role complies with the requirements). I will check on you later

[quote name='Liberty4life' timestamp='1332978666' post='107715'] if ya can change who ya are adept of like socks why not be able to be nobodys adept [/quote] I cannot say anything about "nobody" buy you can be adept of "no one" of you want I do have some adepts that I think they have chosen just like that. You Lib ... i would gladly accept as adept

Sorry for late reply. Draft is supposed to save a message without requiring a destination. Also, why is it forbidden to send messages to self ?

I was trying to store some thoughts on the forum. I saw the "drafts" part of the "messages" feature: [quote]The following errors were found You must either choose a member from your address book or enter their name in the appropriate field fully. This personal message has not been sent[/quote] Then ... why not, lets fill that up, I was thinking to save a message for me : [quote] The following errors were found You cannot send a conversation to yourself This personal message has not been sent [/quote] Can you please fix the "save" button somehow ?

[quote]Personal papers - in the beginning there was a page, a personal page - then docs arrived - then pages got colorful and ... nice and .. they were - then pages got ... no more what is [doc1] ? anyone ? no one ? [/quote]To be continued ... PS: thank you for quoting me " this is a feature not a bug"

I wonder what is next ? cross-land-loyalty requirements ? that would be fun? then the real loyal "subjects" would show up

If herbs baskets & buckets get land loyalty requirement ... then candy boxes should have some. I dind't check when I took mine last time. By the way, I am pretty sure that I want a herb basket and a bucket from time to time. So, if I cannot take them , then you should not take candy boxes. PS: I vote this "item requirement" for first place in "worst idea ever"

I said that this is not a topic for commenting. But anyway, it is your choice. [quote] Gathering tools - tools were created for all - tools were then given for few & few got in business, mostly for self - tools got shared, tools didn't get used as [b]some [/b]wanted - tools got restrited even more. - tools no more for all [/quote] To be continued ...

This topic is not created so that you can comment on someone else's post. And if possible, keep the names to yourself. [quote] "Regeneration bug" - retired "feature" from MP3&MP4 before being fixed so that MP3&MP4 whould be follow the rules of MD and advance to MP5. - then ... creature got transferable with heat[/quote] There are many more to post but ... lets take them one at a time. Edit: Chapters : [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/11868-things-gone-wrong/page__view__findpost__p__106270"]#1. Regeneration bug[/url] [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/11868-things-gone-wrong/page__view__findpost__p__106384"]#6. Gathering tools[/url] [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/11868-things-gone-wrong/page__view__findpost__p__106578"]#14. Personal Papers[/url] Personal thanks for supporting this topic: #5. Duxie: [size=3][font=verdana,geneva,sans-serif]the needle doesn't solve anything.[/font][/size] #12. the council : ... is a feature not a bug. #13. Liberty4life: ... he is pointin on things that affect game concept in "wrong" way

[quote name='nadrolski' timestamp='1330392624' post='105362'] [i]Day 58 Update[/i]: [url="http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/2476/strial022812.jpg"]Soldier of Loreroot L413 AKA dst @ Madman's Trial[/url] [color=#ff0000][i]UPDATE[/i][/color] [/quote] Please add MrWander here, as he gathered Lumber when there were only 5 left. Edit: Thank you for adding me. I missed it.

As title says: I am selling someTea. PM me with offers.

[quote name='Seigheart' timestamp='1329442187' post='104491'] Okay... sue me then. [/quote] don't tempt me

I protest. i wanted to participate and to buy a slave. I would have payed from the beginning more then double it was sold. I arrived at first term of the auction and I wanted to buy. They refused to start the auction as too few ppl were online. I want compensation for this. THIS WAS A FAKE AUCTION.

should be forbidden, unless it is a resurrect spell

I would like to try to buy one or 2 slaves, but ... only if they have some kind of ... summon spell so that I can drag them / summon them whenever / wherever I want . Do they come with the leash on ?

Esmeralda, you are funny . if you are so interested on when I deplete a resource ... give me a PM (in game) and I will PM you when I deplete another location. I don't really have the time to post my own ... whatever those are . This topic is funny. But it is really frustrating as Eon has more pics then me.

In my opinion, Marv is envious. Illusions are ... unstable features. Those that have them got them for some reason and they accepted them at their own risk (to lose stats / creatures and so on). There are very few ppl having illusions and they all take good care on how they use it (as I know of) and they did behaved (unlike other so called leaders). Many bugs have been fixed on illusions so they deserve to keep them as they are until they are made public. These illusions are their reward and not a single person (except the one that awarded them this right ) should question their right to keep them and use them. The illusions exist for a very long time now but only "recently" it happened that it bothers ppl. ( This is quite obvious if you remember the "recent" events ). [quote name='Prince Marvolo' timestamp='1326974774' post='101172'] Lately, some thoughts struck my mind regarding Illusions: There are illusions that are able to influence a land is ways that are going very deep. My personal thought is, that they may want to get reviewed, because of this. ... Right now, there are illusions that are able to give the illusionist land loyalty. And I fear it might lead to having someone who is not loyal to a land grab the shared item, and ruin the purpose of it. [/quote] I think that there are ppl that do much worse without having illusions and within their own lands. [spoiler] - for abuse see recent issue with water handlers ; - see s_x scandals for morality and behavior and then some are awarded ; - for betrayal of their own alliance just look at the recent event ; - for "game destroyers" look at those that sell creatures to low lvl players, to those that spoil the quests, to those that abuse for their own interest, to GGG-ers and so many other Please excuse me for pointing fingers, it is not my intention to point the persons but the actions, but these are the first that came to my mind. If you want, you can share some other example to add to the list. [/spoiler] [quote name='Prince Marvolo' timestamp='1326974774' post='101172'] The essence of the incident was that someone had the Loreroot Soldier Illusion on, and was talking not so nicely about Loreroot and its inhabitants. ... Again, this is my personal opinion, and I’d like to get feedback on this. [/quote] I agree that you don't like it when it is coming from outside. But why you blame others ? Pornography is not nice, and it is not done with illusions and it is not a rumor and[i] it started in Loreroot.[/i] But look closer to you there are a lot of other defects and wrong doings that are worse then what these great people that use these illusions are doing. I don't think that any one of them used these illusions without a purpose within their role (yes, even dst must have a reason for opening necro, did you bother asking ?) [quote name='Prince Marvolo' timestamp='1326979297' post='101187'] but what if someone DOES get the urge to do it? I have no doubt it could lead to... implications. ... 4 or 5 people can make a mess with it, I do not wish to insult anyone who has the illusions, or want to claim I distrust them, but looking at the aboce stated reasons, I believe there IS enough reason to disable them [/quote] There are less then 4 in TK. There are few water dowsers, few woodcutters, few fusioneers and few in other groups that have special treatment and they do abuse and they do make a mess. It is not something that it might be possible is was proven it is certain. Do disband them too. Please lets start it. Then lets move the items that are held by few (those shared to only a few withing certain alliances /lands) to general share. But nooo, some ppl have their fingers into those and therefor those cases are something else. THEY ARE NOT. They have been give some gifts and not even by name to all of them. Not all the ppl that have access to these gifts deserve them. Please start disbanding them too.