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[quote name='Prince Marvolo' timestamp='1327141299' post='101584'] The illusions nullified our chance to win. dst could have had a lot of ways to get her alliance back (through the way I suggested, and probably a Lot more than that). But the illusions made it impossible for us to take it over. and therefor, made the alliance untouchable. [/quote] No Marv, your only mistake is that you celebrated too soon. And you had you occasion to take the alliance for good when she first ended the illusion and came back into SI. At that moment you could have kicked her again, but as I said, you sleeped on your gain. [quote name='Prince Marvolo' timestamp='1327141299' post='101584'] That doesn't change the fact that one of those mechanics may or may not be a bit overpowered in certain cases. [/quote] Over powered is [u]skillvampire & vampiricaura[/u] but they [u]were created specially overpowered [/u]for a reason : [u]to give a fighting chance[/u]. Now you want to remove a fighting chance ... then ... why not just kill all the vampires & priests because they are overpowered too. [quote name='Prince Marvolo' timestamp='1327141299' post='101584'] I understand you want to have your initial 'settings' back after an illusion, but maybe there is a possibility for illusions to recognise an alliance kick, that does not influence any other settings from before the illusion. [/quote] No Marv, i want nothing for myself. Just keep the fighting chance wherever it may be.

Pip, you are an idiot if I may say so. For you I will go off topic: What they did to take SI was amazing. They failed ... it happened. I know how hard it is to take an alliance, I planned and helped the 4 alliance takeover same time ago (do try to remember), I know how difficult it is especially when someone is fighting back and for that I feel sorry for some of the ppl involved. From experience I know that the best feeling when you take over an alliance is when you have a fighting for it. To blame the failure on "abuse" or broken or wrong feature ... that I don't agree. It is called "game mechanics" (but you probably don't know what that is) that finally decided the battle. So, [b]removing that illusion "alliance feature" is to remove a change to fight , a chance to win or lose and therefor I will not agree with it.[/b] In short: [i][b]I hate when rules change, but I love it when ppl win because they knew better [/b][/i]and even more if it is me or my friends. In short term they lost the battle but they won information. In the long run they lost just one occasion. It is up to them to give up or prepare better next time. I am glad that this happened, that they tried. And, of course, I am also glad that they failed. I am glad that they have shown initiative. I am glad that they failed because they went to sleep after it, because of their timing ... because of the planning in general.

I don't have illusions, i don't understand them completely but I vote to keep the old alliance after illusion reset. All the reasons for & against has been said already. True, in case of an alliance take over, you should be able to kick him out, but again one should be able to fight back. The only issue here is because there was a failed alliance takeover were the ppl in charge didn't took into consideration all the variables. Not that everybody can know everything. So what? Try again. Well ... now everybody knows what an illusion can do, nobody should be surprised by what it means anymore. PS : Also, from what I understand, it was already a small batte, so at one point the parties involved knew what was going on and what they were supposed to do. So this is a fair failed takeover.

[quote name='samon' timestamp='1325893965' post='100194'] One big problem with completely forbidding having two alts logged in at the same time is that there are many 'false' alts. Players that actually are different persons but are still flagged as alts, for them it may become nearly impossible to play when they can't log on at the same time. [/quote] The "alt checker" is a bit more complicated then ip check. It has been created based on the "firewall rule" mentioned above and improved. Thank you for your concern. As stated when it was created by Mur if you see cases where you are not allowed to do things because you are considered an alt (and you are not), then you can post it somewhere so that the "alt checker" can be improved.

I am pretty sure that if they set up a camp in Tribunal if i'd need a reward I'd buy a "send to gazebo" stone and I'd call them to me But then ... it is just me

Happy Birthday Dst ! Have an even better year and even more dreams that come true.

First of all, I never liked to see those things in chat and I do not usually pass through (not even pass by) places with such activities. [quote name='Sasha Lilias' timestamp='1314729867' post='91073'] 2) [b]No one [/b]usually passes through. [/quote] [quote name='Sasha Lilias' timestamp='1314729867' post='91073'] You know that there are other ways of dealing with this than posting in public their names and what they were doing, especially in a topic that is locked for your own, nasty, needs, meaning they cannot defend themselves. Rather sly and despicable behaviour, no? [/quote] And I agree with you Sasha, an instant ban on the ppl involved should fix the problem faster. But I guess she enjoys the fight. And we already have an example (thank you Burns): [quote name='Burns' timestamp='1314733453' post='91085'] I was personally involved in an incident when Mur found a couple making out in the Archives east wing and sent one of them to jail without further comment, .... [/quote] [quote name='Amoran Kalamanira Kol' timestamp='1314734394' post='91089'] It is well understood that this sort of behavior is against the rules, but I disagree with Dst's method of finding such behavior. The community of MD does not need a watch dog to harass them into behaving. Most of us are adults between 18 and older. I'm sure we know how to behave like adults. I have said this once and I will say it again: Use a strict method to punishing players for breaking rules. Be reasonable about it. Do not create a war path. ... Give people room to correct their mistakes rather than attacking them for it, and absolutely never go after people and purposefully seek mistakes simply because you do not like them. That is pure abuse of any position said person might hold. [/quote] AKK, as much as I'd hate Dst's way of handling this kind of issues, you must agree that she managed to keep sex at bay. Also some ppl should thank her for the Sunny Bedroom that gave them the possibility to "relax" without being banned. By the way AKK, I don't understand: you want the ppl punished (banned as by example) or to give them time to repent (public humiliation). Please make up your mind. And ... many may be 18 and older but even more behave like 15 and younger. There is a reason why this was forbidden and there should be no exceptions. [quote name='Curiose' timestamp='1314736079' post='91093'] Again, I would have to agree with Amoran. The use of the Accoustic remains is not to go hunting down people. Dst is NOT someone who was given the right to go searching for people, humiliating them and overall harassing them by posting their name, location and what ever they were doing. [/quote] I agree with you too, ban them immediately and not for 10 days, but for 28 days. So, considering that everybody agrees that an immediate punishment should be applied, then ... lets vote . I think that everyone that posted above would agree with it.

[quote name='Stipple' timestamp='1312667232' post='89667'] ... One might not choose to share a story (perhaps because of it needing to be rewritten or perhaps they might be disinclined to post on an open forum something very personal), or one might be on vacation or not a forum reader and thus time lapses between your post and their reading it. ... I would be very apologetic but probably would refuse to post anything needed to prove my merits as a writer ... [/quote] The question is not about the ones that really wrote something, it is about having the privilege to [b]reward[/b] WPs and the requirements for using them. In short : there is a suspicion of abuse at a level that requires a punishment. Maybe dst didn't wrote it nicely, but Innocence understood what was requested and refused and therefor , somehow, confirming dst's suspicion. [quote] ... As for posting the submissions, I have several issues with your request: First, I do not have, and will not create, an account on the forum, especially for this one thing. Second, I have to wonder if you question the awarding of all wish points or if I have been singled out because this is the first time I have been able to award such a prize or if it is something more, the possibility that you have a personal issue with me. I will not speculate further on this, though. Third, which is closely related to the second point, I find your desire to read the entries disingenuous. Again, do you make it a policy to question and review the submissions and interactions of all wish point winners? I cannot recall a recent event where you questioned such rewards. Why this? Why now? ... [/quote] I am sorry to say but at this moment I too am inclined to believe that this was not a fair / correct reward.

Thank you all. PS: I love the image BFH

As Indira said : do it "in a constructive way"! And to give an example for Pipstick : GGG ( if don't know that it means ... don't look it up) I hated it from the first time I heard about it and in the end ... success came ... like ... 2 years after ?? So, even bad ideas come to life and even the strongest support can be broken if the time / events are meant for it. Just keep in mind: Even if this is JUST A GAME, this is our game. It is not about personal gain (inside & outside) as many have tried. All improvements should be the good of all, all abuses WILL be caught, judged & punished sooner or later.

[quote name='xrieg' timestamp='1307269591' post='85758'] ... and a lot of time there is virtually nobody active in frequented areas new players visit. So - no fighting, no interaction, no RP... and storymode alone is not good enough to keep ppl logging in :-P [/quote] Actually ... as the MD is expanding (as number of locations) more and more areas are new for everybody. If you want social interaction you just don't go there. If you want to be alone and wander ... then just visit the new locations or hide. Personally I visited less then half of new locations (from the past 1 year) just because I'm lazy.

yes also ... a protection for "unbind" would be good too ;( I lost so many good rituals like that

Remind me what is the inconvenience here ? Edit: I will use "Pothos" as example just to follow the story, so, it just as example. "Pothos" gets one negative-honor for each lose ? so what ? Do note that "Pothos" looks like a "honor farm". Such "honor farms" have few purposes in this game and getting negative-honor should not restrict any of those. But if he is not a "honor farm", then losing 1000 - 2000 honor for the same amount of loses is nothing, it will still keep you above 0. What I think is that "Pothos" is not the issue. The issue should come from the limitation negative-honor (less then -500) when theoretically you should not get stats / wins / loses (correct me if I'm not up to date). Being [b][u]a normal player[/u] would never raise issues with such small amounts of negative-honor[/b] and therefor [b]THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE[/b]. EDIT: PS: I just noticed an interesting choice in characters: MRI ( "MRI that got jailed for alt abuse" ), "Pothos" (grown honor farm)and ... Kamate ("Jailed without actual fault, because his fate was bound to MRI"). I wonder what's the relation between these 3 and AmberRune.

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yea, it would be a great idea ... But there are problems. For example ... the game - is changing slow -> limit of advertisement on new features - has friction between players & retention of new players is very low -> the costs must be within income of the game - number of bugs & speed of fix -> will also put some stress onto players Also Mur stated once that this game is not a business. And the game requires money just to sustain itself. So ... I know that changing MdM's opinion is difficult. So ... good luck. Anyway, if you want another idea (I already discussed this with him) : make it available on facebook with certain ... benefits. For example when one is giving a burst others can get something out of it. But ... as I said, the game is moving slow and the number of programmers ... is not that big

13 gold for the GG drach

[quote name='Ravenstrider' timestamp='1294402159' post='77024'] About stats... You can gain them much faster with tokens... ^.^ A fully tokened rusty with 1k wins gives A LOT of stats... [/quote] No. That fully tokened rusty give lost of loses ... to others. [quote name='Ravenstrider' timestamp='1294414727' post='77036'] Anyway, I suggest that all of you make an mp3 account and get it to mp5, isolated from your main, from people you know and see how it is... I've been recently been doing some fighting with an alt on mp4 and the first thought I had when I got out of story mode was: Hey, I don't remember that fighting was this hard... Yes, the alt has no shop creatures and I haven't done any of the training with a plan, but still... [/quote] I did that 2 times last year, just to see what are the problems there. There is just one problem : the big difference between players. [quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1294428439' post='77047'] @Burns: Once again I reiterate that I do not think your proposal is effective to stop or even diminish the pwning of noobs. Alts have access to better training schemes, better ritual knowledge and better creatures. [/quote] And this is one of the sources of the problem: [b]training scheme[/b]. [quote name='Kafuuka' timestamp='1294428439' post='77047'] Patronizing eh? [/quote] Sorry, my ignore button failed fot this. I will not even try to answer you directly. Instead try not to post the answer to this : If a ... child, for which you are 3-6 times his age (lets not bring infants here), tries to tell you that he is correct and you are wrong ... what do you do ? how do you do it ? how do you tell him ? for how long ? [quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1294437440' post='77067'] But this thread isn't about extreme stats. It is about high level creatures and alt abuse. It is, in theory, about a particular suggestion which intends to help keep players. Is it that you think that this suggestion will also help protect against extreme stats at low levels? If so could you please elaborate (explain how)? [/quote] I just checked, I guess that one of my early posts didn't got edited in first place so I'll add here: The creature limit is usefull in balancing players but it is not complete without balancing stats. So, after the creature limit, the next limit would have to be the stats limit. For example: mp3 would have to have a max of 300 total stats, MP4 a max of 1500. This is not extremely high but it would be fair to most normal players but I know they are really difficult to get them without being a grinder. As for crits limit, why do you all care about the limits ? Because you limit the creatures ? so what ? all that new MP3s will know is that they have access to only those creatures. And making older ppl the only one that know their NEW restrinctions and thus making new ppl feel uncofortable with restrictions. But this is not quite like that. There are ppl in MP3/4 that will be impacted by this measures but they enjoy how they are now. So, this fight on this topic is actually for their position there. By the way, look what I see in chat: [quote name='chat'] kxttie: we all need loses you dork [/quote] he is standing in The Marble Dale Park, hmm, interesting character, he got my attention (not just because he directed that to me) [quote name='chat'] kxttie: not for me right now, I need some xp to level up my trees, but I need single wins with no xp for other creatures, so I need either or. ... kxttie: I need a few wins mates. and an angien if anyone so hospitable would care.>) [/quote] And I have to mention that he has ONLY 7 ([b]SEVEN[/b]) days. How does he have trees in 7 days ? how does he know that much ? I would be really interested in his creatures & stats And ... because of ppl like him I want this limit imposed. MP3s should not have Loreroot creatures, it is not normal. It was not intended to be like that. Or ... who does remember how it was when you got your own bird ? When you upgraded it ? I certainly struggled with it a lot. I.m.o also creature transfer should be banned for MP3. [player]kxttie[/player] [quote name='FYI'] Regeneration : 3 Energetic immunity : 3 Trade sense : -1 Briskness : 6 Initiative : 1 Defence : 2 Attack : 4 Luck : 0 Power : 1 He has 7 days and he has: lore archer tree lvl 2 tree lvl 1 elemental 2 water 2 bird lvl 1 (egg) This is not an ordinary player [/quote]

Ravenstrider, what did I said ? [quote] MP3 must only fight / compare to MP3. MP4 must only fight / compare to MP4. (see the 10k stats that I'm insisting) [/quote] So: all I care is the stats & creature levels. If one has money to put into dracs / tokens, then good (more money for MD). But at least they will not have thousands of stats difference to the MP mates. As for : [quote] I can't beat anyone on mp5, I'm too weak... [/quote] Yea, I know this joke. I see it in so many topics. [size="5"][b]IT IS A JOKE ppl. [/b][/size] It is the same situation for every MP. A new NORMAL newcomer in MP3/4/5 will be crushed by an older NORMAL player in same MP. So, stop spreading jokes, nobody is laughing at them it is really hurting MD because ppl start believing them.

@Z: [quote name='No one' timestamp='1294322846' post='76964'] Also, the limitation will also reduce the gaps between players in same MP (MP3 / MP4). ... Should I remind you about MP4s with 10k attack ? PPL this is for your own good, for MD's future. [/quote] I don't care about differences between MP3 & MP4 or MP4 & MP5. Read my words: I DON'T CARE . [quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1294354739' post='76992'] Look at HeHelpedMe here, getting negged for not understanding. ... His opinion is more valuable because he is actually in the group that is supposedly trying to be helped. ... [/quote] I did, so many times, tried to reason with young players. The problem is that you have to raise him to your lvl to make him understand. Otherwise he does not (want to ) understand. If I would have liked to do that I would have been an LHO. [quote name='(Zl-eye-f)-nea' timestamp='1294354739' post='76992'] Having maxed creatures like angiens does help beat other players like MP5s who ... [/quote] I don't even want to let MP3 fight MP5s, I am against it. I petitioned everyone I can think that has a decision in this to forbid MP3s in alliances/TC/HC. MP3 must only fight / compare to MP3. MP4 must only fight / compare to MP4. (see the 10k stats that I'm insisting) MP5 ... when you get bored you get to MP5 too. All you have to consider is that extreme stats are NOT NORMAL. Players with such stats are less then 15% / MP and for MP3 & 4 we have this option to limit their interference. I DON'T CARE if they want to stay in lower MP as long as they are within reasonable limits (the limits that we're discussing about) from the average players in that MP. I.m.o. MP3 & MP4 should not even be bothered about these limits as long as they don't want to get uber stats and that is the exact reason I want the limits implemented. So, the rest of the players (mostly MP5) should only talk about how "reasonable" a limit should be and where one is missing.

WARNING: Long post below!!! [quote name='I am Bored' timestamp='1293647247' post='76307'] I would agree with most of the things on here, except the bit about MAGIC ctc's, because those are hard to get as it is, and should be allowed to be an exception to the rule. I must also dissagree with no one's suggestion, because lowering creatures like that would cause other problems as well, because you would be reducing the xp of an mp4, to far below the level of an mp3, and that would allow for even more building of powerful creatures at a lower mind power level. [/quote] dude, what ... ? what do you mean by - "you would be reducing the xp of an mp4, to far below the level of an mp3" - "and that would allow for even more building of powerful creatures at a lower mind power level" "Magic" ctc creature should have the option of "activate" and be left unusable. "Activate" meaning that it will receive the limitation of the current MP, allowing a player to get a max Drach (for example) in MP3 and use it at MP5. [quote name='HeHelpedMe' timestamp='1294285609' post='76923'] I strongly dislike the idea of that kind of requirement. ... And that should be enough for most of the players. In my opinion, the true problem which leads to alt abuse is the existence of alts. ... Mp3 and mp4 just need to quickly get to mp5 and be farmed and grinded into cat food by the "vets". [/quote] Get serious ppl, I think this is the only game with no requirements what so ever. This is why a new player start gathering creatures in first week without even understanding what combat means. The whole creature limitation is for new ppl to learn as a normal player should do and to have a chance to get in touch with all lvl of all creatures. Also, the limitation will also reduce the gaps between players in same MP (MP3 / MP4). At this moment MP3s are asking for angiens. Do they know why ? I don't think so, but they've been told that they need some. NO THIS MUST BE STOPPED All players must use the creatures that they can get themselves or use them when they become available. There are MP4/5 players that don't even know the maxed knator as they never had one. When this would be implemented , I do agree that a period of time to be given so that MP3s with angiens & max dracs to move to proper MP or to accept the limitations. Nobody is keeping / forbidding you to stay in lower MPs, but do stay at their level. Should I remind you about MP4s with 10k attack ? PPL this is for your own good, for MD's future.

thank you, i know actually ... i got your point from the beginning, but if you want to admit that dst is wrong and must be punished then by your own own mistake you condemning Ravenstrider too that is why I said (I hate to repeat myself) : "Do consider all the consequences before you posting / answer on forum. " tsk dst tsk Ravenstrider tsk Princ so, consider all three of you punished Now have fun

oh, I see yea, 167 of activity days means he is "unexperienced". and ... you ... for your 722 active days ... I will say that you are "unexperienced" because you missed that thing in the picture then me, "No One" / "the young unexperianced player" might just want to check some words too that is fun, really then if he can do it , so can I as of now .... I am a new in MD, youupee

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' timestamp='1294261785' post='76883'] dst abusing [color=#4b0082][silence][/color] spell on me for entirely personal/subjective reasons [/quote] This is so much fun. I haven't had that much fun on forum since ... I don't remmember. This is really fun. So: Considering your image, who else should be punished ? Let me count : Ravenstrider as a revengeful friend 1. posted in chat the spell -> first warning 2. no reason for using spell -> second warning 3. trying to silence an LHO -> I forgot, what was the punishment for this ? you, Princ Rhaegar: 1. Just report it, to proper LHO, attacking the image of LHO is bad 2. posting images with that spell in clear is bad (1-2 warnings as it is on forum) 3. so what ? do you want some more ? [img]http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif[/img] Do consider all the consequences before you posting / answer on forum.

one more thing: If a creature requires MP to level ... when the MP increases, the EXTRA age/experience/wins for that creature should be reduced to the upgrade requirement. That way, the number of players that stay in MP3 to have the age for their angiens will be reduced.