Chewett

----------------------- The thing about MD, is that the people that work for it all do freely. This generosity powers MD much more than money and is worth so much more. If you say got the server costs free, but had to pay the people to code/plan/manage/LHO/TK/ETC then we would end up paying thousands of pounds more. It isnt a job, its a hobby, and therefore you cant force people to do what they dont want to. If you are being forced to work on something (without pay because with pay its called a job) then it becomes boring, you will give up, and in the end you will do a bad job. Speaking from my point of view Mur has never told me to do any coding, he has asked nicely if i could do things. Some things you know, although you dont want to, you have to work on fixing/changing. Stuff like fixing those Key bugs, they were a massive pain, and i didnt want to do it, but it was important so you do work on those things. Its a balance between coding random things and working on stuff you know needs work. What the public council really need in my view, and something people should consider when voting: Being able to talk to the public, get across ideas, be approachable, find what people want Have some initiative, since no one is going to be telling you what to do, having an idea of what you want to work on is good. Have some "MD Smarts" Its all well and good having ideas, but if they have already been presented and rejected, or similar then its not likely to be done, unless you can convince others. ---- Dont worry about some of these things, The council and i will be around to help out. I can provide examples of work im doing, work that could be done, and formats that you may want to run the council with. There are a thousand things that could be worked on in MD, it just takes some manpower to do. An example could be planning for land treasuries, working on a Torch Competition, or something as basic but useful as planning changes to the way you can move around MD.

Exercise - I find that when i am at my darkest moments time taken to mindlessly do physical exertion helps a bit.

"I suppose it will be doing its actual role" - What do you think its "actual role" is? What do you think my or Murs actual role is? A number of roles will be retailed by the council, Mur and I. These roles are crucial to MD such as dealing with payment and other adminstrative parts of MD. These cannot be expected to be given to a public role in case of misunderstanding or not knowing how to use payment systems or similar, and where training will be too expansive. The Tk's will still run the TK's etc. The public council can be exactly what they want it to be. If they dont want to do anything, they dont have to bother and can just sit down with some nice powers and do nothing. If they want to look at rehauling the LHO system or similar, they can. The public council should be people who should talk with the public and work on exactly what they want. This is important to remember when you are voting since they are our public council, hold directly accountable to us. Mur is of the opinion that this peer pressure will not create decisions good for "general MD" but we shall see. An example where everyone wants something but not everyone should get is rare creatures, these should stay rare and although everyone wants one, everyone shouldnt get one. Within the realms of reason, it any and all tools they want. In some cases the tools will not be directly given to them because they are powerful but will be held by me and used in cases they need the information from them. As an example the altchecker will not be given to any of these players, but they will be able to obtain the information provided by it as long as they provide a very good reason for it. Alt information is private and we never use the altchecker just for fun.

It won't eve forum vote, explained intake to above people but forgot to copy In essence, pick one person in each category. if votes are close, restart voting with highest x people. Will be explained more when I'm at home when voting starts. Discussed full plan with Mur and council and they are happy with its fairness.

A number of questions iv been asked ingame, will keep adding: squirbo: how often will council plan to meet? Or is it a -post-in-forums-whenever kind of setup? Chewett: Its a "decide what you want to do"

I heard that this was still open for people putting their names down :)

Who says i want you ever to forget? I win if you never forget this quest, and therefore MD. ---- also as a note, you cheated. I got you to a location in no mans land where you placed the noticeboard down, so lets be slightly fair i did kinda win there :P

Voting shall hopefully begin Monday, however i am on holiday and will be internetless until sunday evening so depending on the time needed to set up the vote it may be delayed. A Warning to all participants: This voting is for a very important role and position, This is not a minor land vote where you send a PM to all your friends asking them to vote for you. A candidate should win the position on their own public values and not how many people they can spam. If someone has sent you a message asking you to vote for them please report them to me. Those found to be doing this will be removed from the voting. Needless to say, anyone who uses alts to boost a persons vote will also face punishment. One vote per player is permitted, no more.

Unlike many recent posts this is helpful , constructive and very interesting. I like it and will be looking into some of these ideas.

Sounds like a md shop feature :d

Clear cache etc, a lho can help you with all the steps to fix it, they should all know it.

I will look at making the item type changes tomorrow as i have spent time working on the server this morning. The suggestions for changing item types should continue to be made as they have been wrong since they started, but clearly this feature means that people care if they are typed wrongly. The changes made to how the inventory works will be done at a later date when i have reviewed all suggestions.

---------------- Right, everything is now fixed up, iv done all the updates i wanted to do and the security is now vastly improved. Im going to do some more work tomorrow morning but from today it looks all good :D

Yeah :D im doing further work. Was unsure if cache was properly flushed, and i havent yet cleared mine. Just rebooting the server, it will be down until its up :P EDIT many: and we are back

Still broken? Nearly home now.

Ok, looks like we probably need to restore from a backup then, it's gonna be at least two hours depending on London traffic lol.

Sounds fun. Cool you are probably going to need to wait until I get home to do a tester, because as we know Mur don't keep backups :p To do a fix... iPhone keyboard bah!

Should be clean, please confirm if it is or if its giving errors again.

Cool Mur is Dealing with this now. Looks like we might not need to shut It all down

We may shut down the site entirely until I can review it if there are still issues, we are currently checkin it all out. Remove all antivirus exclusions you put in place, you should never do this and bfh was wrong to suggest it. It goes off for a very good reason.

We are currently working on it and it will e down until further notice. Possibly til I get at a comp, so at least 6hr unless Mur can fix it.

Don't add it to exclusions. Don't do anything to unblock it until I have checked. I am in London with family ATM but when I get back I will look at it. If someone deems it nesscary we should turn main fence mode on for 6 hours til I get home. It looks like we may have a virus or false positive. I think we should set maintenance mode on unless mur thinks its now fine but I can't do t. Put a die() in config.

possibly fixed.

As tomorrow became today, today became busy, and therefore no work was done. Today's tomorrow is also busy, but tomorrow's tomorrow should be less so. I plan to work on it then. :)

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