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Yes, But the point i was making was that, as soon as you step into a high viscosity area, you know if you are going the right way of not, then you just have to make the way back to the low viscosity path. If it were as simple as you say its not, then i would be totally against it.

[quote name='xrieg' timestamp='1311798826' post='88966'] 2. think smart, consider your questing strategy - and devise a way to get scoring position with minimal actual effort. Of course it works the best if you can follow quest progress and your adversaries. A few strategies include strategic timeframe of posting (first/last moment/ carpet bombing), criticizing other entries, attempts to influence rules to fit better. May not be the most effective but may offer quite a lot of fun if you are in a right mood, I guess, [/quote] You tell them to work hard in the first, then directly contradict it in the second by telling them to win with the minimal effort in the second? Then, even worse, you specifically suggest methods that are close enough to cheating, that will earn no friends. Just because you feel its a good way to work, does not mean you should be encouraging such methods. I cant believe you aim this as newbies, yet suggest methods such as "criticizing other entries, attempts to influence rules to fit better". And yes, before you all start to neg rep me, I am earning no friends at all with this post, But i feel that such a guide aimed at newbies, with such content, paints MD is a very bad light indeed. People suggesting you should act dishonourably to win... Not in the MD spirit at all.

the path throught the lab is a spoiler. so to confirm you wont be leaving the path to follow in chat? if not then i would love to come and join in. in regards to your first point it will merely partially spoiler it. they will more than likely follow the trail of viscosity and will still get stuck if they take a wrong turn because your plan will only lower the main route

I held two ceremonies during the day, With each ceremony differing slightly. The first, was a more general heat letting, where its was merely released and then we held a discussion afterwards. The second heat letting was where we stored the heat into an item, more specifically a book. Here is the log of the second ceremony: [attachment=3083:ceremony.htm] We took an hour and a half to gather 480k of heat which afterwards then our friends were resurrected. We still know little of what happened to them but it doesn't matter for they are alive and well. [attachment=3082:480k heat.jpg] Starting at 0, slowly working out way up to filling it took a lot of work from some people. By the end of the one and a half hours many participents were running around franticly gaining heat. Without their help, we wouldnt have managed to fill up the book, and save our friends. Ceremony 1 Participants: [attachment=3084:event 1.jpg] Ceremony 2 Participants: [attachment=3085:event 2.jpg] Here is a two images showing the participants at a point int he ceremony. So many people turning up for something to try and save our friends is amazing, and just shows the large amount of people who wanted to save our friends. Full log, very long: [attachment=3087:Full Log of the Day.htm] Ceremony 1 starts: [24/07/11 15:04] Phantasm Speaking: [24/07/11 15:32] Fyrd Speaking: [24/07/11 15:38] Discussion/Argument: [24/07/11 15:42] Ceremony 2 starts: [24/07/11 22:00] Started moving the heat book around: [24/07/11 22:16] Filled up the Orb finally: [24/07/11 23:49] Use these timestamps to search through the large log. (Ctrl-F will normally bring up find dialog) [b]Finally I want to thank everyone that turned up and let out heat again. It was our joint effort that managed to save them, And for that you all have my gratitude.[/b]

[quote name='xrieg' timestamp='1311624093' post='88847'] True - but in most cases you do not go across all GG and back. Viscosity could control access to locations and their clusters (2-3 locations off the beaten path were already unpleasant). With the age bonus ppl 6M+ feel viscosity only in GG Labirynth trip (using GoE is already manageable) - and of course Tribunal. On the other hand viscosity didn't change that much about Tribunal access... Therefore I feel AP bonus is a bit too high - in almost all practical application you can now ignore viscosity. [/quote] The average person has gained around 100 more Action points, giving them a total of 200 points. traversing 5 locations with 40 viscosity with a base number of 1 uses all of those points. After that, you wait, You cant get anywhere "faster" due to the same regeneration rates. Its more helpful for older players, But in the long run, moving around for longer periods dont help.

[quote name='xrieg' timestamp='1311622536' post='88839'] I agree... I would suggest cutting bonuses by half - I like viscosity feature and the new AP bonus overcompensates/ almost nullify it in its present parameterization (well, not for GG and Tribunal). Otherwise - I like it [/quote] As Maebius pointed out, when you have used it up, it doesnt help at all.

This event has finished. it culminated in collecting 480k heat in a container, and we sucessfully managed to do so, within a couple hours of starting. I shall be posting a full log, pictures and infomation regarding the event up tommrow, including a list of thank yours for everyone.

then 3 silver

The event is today, 15:00 and 22:00 I hope to see you there So that we can begin to end this terrible issue

Have a good day Awiiya!

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Welcome to the game, and additionally the forums. If you have any questions, please feel free to pm me

[quote name='Udgard' timestamp='1311392980' post='88659'] Just and idea for the future, perhaps ask all members to give the ITC of the tool as soon as they are given it, so the leader can take the tool anytime if they went missing? Of course, then you will also need to make sure that you are only recruiting members that can be trusted not to transfer their tools to other characters while holding it. [/quote] The Water Dowsers have been doing this since its inception, It seemed the logical thing to do so the leader can retrieve any items when he needs them. [quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1310231076' post='87440'] Here is a sample scenario: Gatherer gets a 10 stone batch. He can't sell one stone he can sell only 10 because they behave like resources, and over time that amount increases.So he can continue to increase stoc and ask for more, or sell and eventually he will sell. Using alts to store the stones will eventually reach a limit too. You are forgetting the resources regenerate and are endless so eventually their value drops as more are available. [/quote] I think this comment is very intresting.

I dont know about you, But i cant see land loyalty score of anyone who i cant attack, Simialry with descriptions.

[quote name='Burns' timestamp='1311368237' post='88632'] MP6 can't see descriptions.MP6 can't see the land loyalty tooltip.MP6 can send messages to themselves. (Ohkay, not exactly a big problem... xD)Will update as i find more things. [/quote] This isnt really a mp6 issue, they valid across mindpowers if im correct. So you cant view descriptions and loyalty of other Mindpowers. I think its stupid but not nesscarily a bug.

I personally believe that since water is a resource, freely available that it should also be similarly available. However, since some of the independent water gathers have felt it good to deplete the water to a point whereby it is hard to attain water. Then there is no real system to be able to distribute water out to the masses, fairly. If you want water, The Water Dowsers are here to oblige. Since the independent tools are being passed around relatively quickly, it is hard to predict how many resources and how fast we can collect it. So orders are harder to predict when they can be fulfilled. The smaller quantities will take longer as we wont likely have them, and will need to build them up. Currently the prices for water are: 1/2 Silver for 2 Water 1 Silver for 1 Mineral Water These prices are averaged over 10 pieces, if you want one water, it obviously wont be for 1/2 a silver If you want water, come to us first, If you are getting it for a community effort, or to help someone, Then we will offer a larger discount, to help support the community effort. Currently i am acting as salesman for the Water Dowsers, if you wish to buy water from them send me a pm. The Water Dowsers are spending their own time voluntarily to get the resources and draw no salary and expect no reward for their work. We are not focussed on getting rich, but being able to give the water that people need. Any trades conducted with us, will be fully protected by the land and Queen. This means that you can trade safely with us knowing that you are paying the people working to bring you water, And wont get ripped off by someone who has just bought some water to entice people. The coins raised will be used in good projects around Marind Bell and MD. Instead of trying to get rich quick there are much better ways of using this guild to help MD. Sponsorship of events will be at the discretion of the leader of the Water Dowsers and The Queen.

[quote name='jmaster' timestamp='1311354801' post='88605'] That is too stop people from continuesly pulling me away from what I am trying to do, If it doesnt work then prices will still drop but If people keep saying my prices are high and bothering me about it they will just continue to raise. I dont care if they sell fast, I am a patient Man. So please people only reply if you want something, and not bash on my business, I dont do it to your guys so I ask for at least the same respect. [/quote] Surely as more people bother you, you will raise the prices, And thusly even more will bother you, so the cycle continues. Where does it stop?

oh dear. a wodcutter needs some retraining? closed

what is the full id? i dont see why you didnt post it but if you really dont want to post it please pm it. thanks

simularly with water. i am selling the water dowsers stock for half that price

Update: A friend has reminded me that the 24th is actually a sanctuary day, This is good news indeed for people who are close to skill damage and unable to go out in large crowds. Main post updated

We all know the crisis that is currently occurring. Our Monarchs and Friends are Dead. We must do something to try and resolve the matter. I, along with my friends and other Seekers will be holding a Heat Letting Ceremony at Angiens Ferry. During we shall talk with anyone else there, About what can be done, and what has occurred. I hope some of you will want to say something, about our dead, about how you believe it happened or how it can be resolved. The event will be held on Sunday 24th. It will be held twice, Once at 15:00 (server-time, GMT+2) and again at 22:00 (server-time, GMT+2) This is to facilitate multiple timezones. The 24th is also a Sanctuary day, So there will be no fighting at the meetings. I have been in talks with most monarchs and Z, and most agreed that they will be in attendance or will send representatives. For this, the general scheme of the event will be thus: Introduction by Me Small talk about the process of letting heat, the significant of Angiens Ferry (heat letting optional) Talks, Comments and rituals by assembled Members General conversation about events, open to everyone. If anyone wishs to specifically have a slot, to talk for a period of time, Or perform some kind of ritual please send me a pm stating what you wish to do, including the meeting time you will be attending. Since there will be two meetings, each with differing people attending, their contents will surely differ, and if you have time for both, it will be interesting to bring any foresight gained in the first, to the second. Hopefully we can progress the issue of our dead friends, and possibly find a way to help them in their current predicament. This thread can be used to say you are coming, Or comment on the event, or merely ask questions regarding it. I hope to see some of you there.

[quote name='BFH' timestamp='1311184288' post='88372'] Like the idea, but if not well implemented might seem like a colorful disaster. [/quote] Colour... in my MD? Never!!

come on guys, these birthday wishs are getting earlier and earlier. The next "obsessively early" guy gets a ban. apart from that, HAPPY BIRTHDAY CURI!

Z is an either or, meaning that it possibly could have been chosen, and also possibly just been random. If you picked someone truely random, then you wouldnt bother to really look for some kind of pattern. Wheras at the current we are looking for, and trying to ignore him from the searchs. Effectively picking him, makes logical deductions and path following harder, since he is possibly a red herring. So you cant rule him out.