Kyphis the Bard

I disagree with this suggestion.

+ you have a stat that heals them automatically (experiment a little)

So it is o_O I had not noticed, thanks Chewbuckett!

Eh. I figure if you wanted to give Land Leaders the ability to favor those who are truly loyal to their land you could just make Land Score public (and I don't mean public like "look up their profile", because that can be hidden/doctored. I mean public like "click on a page below their avatar", like we have for inventory and logs, that lists their land scores in the sidebar) But I don't really think that's a good idea. It would probably have unfair repercussions, even if it would work to let land leaders, well, discriminate.

Aye, that's why I said in my suggestion to change the random hour length as needed. Obviously with this consideration you would want it to be closer to by original suggestion, 144 to 168 hours

No One's idea is a great one. To answer his question, I typically only use shared items for a few hours, on days where I can be on MD for a long time. While it can be annoying to get tools from LotE, having an alliance I can use to teleport out again certainly helps. Since I typically only use items for a couple hours at a time, having a link to send the damn things back would be very useful.

Just as a quick off topic post... While it may seem I am aggressively rebutting No One's argument, I just want to say that I am very glad he is joining in this discussion. I don't talk to him any where often enough that I would call him a friend, but I like him a lot and value his opinion.

I call it land loyalty because that is what it is called on our profiles. By the Game. In the place where it is most often seen. In the most easily accessible reference to it a player can get. You know the second most commonly accessed reference to it? Shared item collection. Where it is also called Land Loyalty. In the interface. By the Game. And DD, I have to disagree there. I do not think leaving a land shows that you are not loyal to it. Not returning, on the other hand, certainly begins to show that. And you do not need to be in an alliance to be a citizen. If your king kicks you out of the land, then that is their right. As the leader of your land, who you voted for, they have the right to decide what it means to be loyal to the land. And if you didn't vote for them, then you can always rebel. It is why we have these systems; so you can be loyal to the land even if you are not to its leader.

My reasoning: Its called "land loyalty", not familiarity or anything like that. It's a bit hard to be loyal to a land you are not in. However, it is quite possible to have mixed loyalties. Hence, much slower loss rate than gain rate, still allowing people to be loyal to multiple lands. So you don't forget life in france after four years, big whoop. Memory and loyalty are not the same thing. And so you are loyal to france even if you don't live there, big whoop. Location and loyalty are not the same thing. Real world analogies don't exactly work here. You want to be show loyalty for more than one land? Fine! Go for it! Totally possible to have a constantly increasing loyalty value to upto four separate lands with this suggestion. No One, yes it impact most those that don't do it on purpose. Ironically, that's exactly who it is supposed to ;) This gives a clearer distinction between loyal subjects and alliance hoppers. It is still totally possible for people to gain loyalty in multiple lands if they want, but it discourages people from joining a land under false pretenses just so they can exploit it in the future. If people want to maintain a loyalty score with a land, they should actually need to show some loyalty to it. Even if that just means being a citizen one day in four. This doesn't place any judgement on alliance hoppers either. If a land, or multiple lands, want to allow someone to maintain a loyalty score with them when they spend most of their time in another land, they total can. But it takes the lands continued consent, not just someone lying once and reaping the benefits forever. DD, I don't think anything more needs to be done to reward loyal citizens, I just think a proper distinction needs to be made between proper loyal citizens (even if they are loyal to multiple lands, I am myself even if I only have land loyalty to MDA), and those who are just exploiting the system.

Well, to flesh out my idea, I would say: Have fortnightly scheduled regroups. Scheduled regroups do not effect items picked up within 12 hours of the regroup Items are automatically returned after a random interval of between 36 and 60 hours, randomly chosen at time of pick up and not displayed anywhere Current "return on use" limitations apply. That provides more opportunity for people to get items, as well as having a fixed time that most items should be returned. This allows for both organized groups to get the items they need, and individuals to get a chance to try them out. Fiddle with the random time frames all you want though.

I propose that land loyalty be changed in the following manner: For lands that you are a current citizen of, no change For lands that you are a non-current citizen of, reduce by one point every four days. Discuss?

A shame you want simple, or I would suggest having the return interval be per item, based on when it was grabbed, with the random component of return time being anywhere from 144 to 168 hours. Ah well. Simplicity dashes my dreams for elegant complexity, once again.

So your forum rep is low, so what? Forum rep doesn't mean that you are a bad person, or that people dislike you. Giving you negatives for either of those reasons is actually spam (hell, that a lot of those people on that list are people you HAVEN'T talked to much is the biggest evidence it's not spam to me). All it means is that people disagree with your ideas. But so what? So people disagree with your ideas? Does that make your ideas wrong? No. Does it make your ideas right? No. If Galileo had voiced his opinions about the world going around the sun on a forum like this, and the church had been able to neg rep him, they damn well would have. He'd still have been RIGHT, but he would at least know that most people disagreed with him (which he knew anyway, but lets ignore that for the sake of metaphor).

Wife baked this. It is [EXPLETIVE DELETED] fantastic. I am not vegan by any measure (I grew up on a farm, so "acquiring" meat is well understood by me), but it is easily my preferred cake :D

I love that days of tranquility happen on my birthday :P Anywho, those of you who are waiting to see me about quest stuff, or waiting on commissions from me, will have to wait until tomorrow. Today shall be claimed by party.

... from about half of MD's population. Now THAT takes commitment! (and a time machine, and an ability to break MD's code :P)

The tooltip for exiting the fictionist house in tribunal is "Exit - (AP: 1,2 +36)"

Dwarf Fortress. Fantastic free game. Bloody hard to figure out on your own though, google and the wiki are your friend (but you already know that, Rophs, your in mah gaming guild :P)

Hahahaha!

Sorry Rhaegar, not ironic, just crappily written (actually there is a degree of irony in there, as its not what most people would think of as a poem. But still is). As one of the people who actually got to talk to him a lot, he really is an asset to the realm, far more than most of his detractors would ever give him credit for.

Completely forgot this existed :D Link!

How we miss your silent "." The way that no syllable at all, Could mean so many things. You never told a lie, For you never spoke. And by selfsame virtue never gave away my evil plans The way that people would flee before you, it was not fear or hatred, but simply being overwhelmed by how utterly, mind destroyingly awesome your "."'s where. And how we all loved to see the words, "Eon collects herbs" repeated over and over in a single scene We miss the way you would always find us When we played hide and seek And thump us playfully as your way of saying "Tag! I'm still It!" The BHC will never be the same without you, And your Mur sanctioned-if-council-denied prizes That where always given to the strongest, most rule following player. The way you would rip our stats out from under us, And get us to work as a team to create new defenses, Those where the good old days that we all miss. But most of all we - Or maybe its just me? And dst? Heck, Eon, I miss you!

I've sent off a request to a web artist I watch to see if they might be willing. They do a webcomic that is full of well drawn animal peoples, so I thought that might work :P Here is her website. Although, do bear in mind that you will need to look around since its a webcomic :P EDIT: This is a good one though :P

Just a reminder for anyone who wants to try and make the avatar: Do NOT trace an image. Any image must be fully your own work. Tracing even a photo will get you in trouble (Even if the photo is your own, if it is loaded up on the net). It must be an original image. Changing one or two things is not enough.

Nuts, I would have applied for this, but it was announced and chosen during the time I was asleep :( EDIT: I have compiled and sent the data for MDA anyway. Since you didn't leave long enough in volunteering for me to do so I obviously wasn't at your planning meeting to learn exactly what data you want, but eh. I included whether it was internal/external, natural light, ambient light, and artificial light. I have the data for the vast, vast majority of MD as well. As an archivist I have lots of data like that. Resource maps, clickie maps, black letter maps, weather maps, water maps, parchment maps, etc. We have compiled a very large library of data.