Kyphis the Bard

During the Day of Absurdly Blind Justice the PL laws where brought into question. Muratus made two suggested changes, which he would like the communities opinion on. Remember that these are two [i][b]separate[/b][/i] suggestions, with the second building on the first:[list=1] [*]PL entries can be flagged as inappropriate/offensive. Flagged PL entries will be sent to moderators to determine if they break the laws governing PL Content. A PL that breaks the PL Content laws can be edited by the moderator. Edited PLs will: be marked to indicate they have been moderated; be edited in such a way as to retain the original meaning without breaking the PL Content laws (ie lots of swearing will be replaced by "very angry", etc). Insulting entries that are worded to not break the PL Content laws will not be edited, as the PL's are for both positive and negative feedback. [*]The Kings/Queens will be the only people given the ability to flag PL's as inappropriate/offensive. If you have a PL you consider as inappropriate/offensive you will need to contact the King/Queen of the PL writer (not your own) for them to determine if it should be sent for review. [/list] [log=Muratus' original comments in the chat][list=1] [*]an alternate opinion.....listen /so, what if any comment that sounds unacceptable like the ones mentioned so far, get edited by a mod. reformulated! as a list of how that mod thinks the writer felt or what his opinion was. /the log will be flagged differently so peple know it was re edited /but the message keeps, they will know that whatever a mod re-writes keeps the original idea somehow close, so if he sais, "very angry" it means the writer went wild on insults /the editor cant add things on its own or miss meaning of the message, but will defenetly reformulate it in a less agressive way. to eliminate personality touch, they should just write a series of wo /ords, to describe the entry /that also means the if you really really want to offend someone elegantly, you have to try hard /the mods will handle just offending words posts, not elegant diplomatic insults.. [*]there is an other way /i just realised it /allow only kings to decide what is offending and what not only for citizens /you you got stuck with a more rude leader, bad luck, got stuck with a fluffy flowerpower leader..all citizens will talk nice /oh and i mean, the leader of the WRITER not of the one complaining [/list] [/log]

[quote name='SageWoman' timestamp='1319116163' post='94359'] It is my opinion, that the Forum is a place where Mur should announce well in advance where he intends to be and all other pertinent information. It is a fact that not everyone views the Announcements because of the volume and changes it goes through daily. I would also like to suggest, that Kings, Queens, Leaders, and MP6's then take this information and re-post it in their private forums as well as private Alliance Page. A simple copy n paste will do it. That way, no one has room to say that they didn't get the information. Do not Kings and Queens announce to their subjects declarations, intentions of War, and other things? The same goes for Leaders of Alliances and I would think Mp6 teach their adepts other things besides how to fight and to send Heat. Work together as a collective, not individualism, and this should rectify the MurGate issues. (Sorry Mur, but it sounded funny in my Head) [/quote] To which I say: Innocence (although she REALLY needs to start reading the forums.... no idea why she refuses to)

Interesting submission, but remember rule 1 with Jigsaw there, Tipu

Much. Although, just to clarify, my only objection is to the time factor. As far as the location goes, I don't mind if it is public or secret, and there are often events where the location SHOULD be secret before hand, such as item batch releases that have happened before. However, public events like Medal Awards should probably not be secret.

I'm not overly fond of the poll choices you provided... I picked No, I don't like the fact you need to be online, whereas what I actually mean is that I like you have to be online to attend, I don't like that you have to already be online to know when you need to be online to attend. I am a very busy person, as are a lot of other people who play MD. I don't really like having to take a whole day out of my scheduled just for a one hour event. It kind of pisses me off, not to mention my wifes opinion of it.

Have a good time missing us all

Certain types of spoilers are allowed to be discussed, however these are all in the category of information that doesn't make a lot of sense by itself (ie doesn't just tell them the answer, for example "The strength of the Loreroot Guards is their weakness"). Spoilers are not to be given freely, and are also not to be given for credits or other trade goods, as this turns the game into a click to advance style game, which is explicitly against the rules. You are allowed to give certain spoilers, of the type stated above, as rewards for things like quest work, as this represents an alternative method of of getting the same information without it being a simple click to advance; however the amount of work required to earn it in this method should always be more than the amount of work required to gain it through the intended means. However, under no circumstance are any spoilers to do with story mode allowed to be shared, as this is explicitly against the rules. So the final answer is that no, it is not allowed. [quote] Spoiling quests or posting puzzle solutions / walkthrous on the forum is not allowed. You can help individual players but don't hand them the solution, just give them all the clues they need and let them figure it out..you can even give them more cluse than they need , just do not make it a boring click to advance type of game by spoiling it. Posting story spoilers / story structure / walkthrous on the forum or anywhere else will get you a warning, refusing to delete them will have your account permanently closed. [/quote] -CLC.

Just as a quick interjection, it is firmly unaccepted to Sell spoilers. However, that doesn't mean that other ways of getting them aren't allowable, and that is what we are discussing. Selling Spoilers falls under a similar category to selling Exploits, and has been punished in the past.

I also would like that count, so long as it didn't say how many scenes there where (ie it just gave you the %: "You have visited 72% of all locations in MD") Opens up new achievements for exploration, as well, that get harder the longer you leave them.

May I suggest "...we shall [b]be forced to[/b] remove it..."

The Law Advisors [sup](volunteer, Mur many make his own official group at a later date)[/sup] are discussing this now, hopefully we will have a clear answer for you in about two days.

So long as you aren't actually the same person, its not alt abuse. In this specific case, however:[list=1] [*]You personally never hold any of the coins or items [*]You are posting on PL's, an ability he doesn't have [*]You are advertising in places he can't reach to advertise himself right now [*]You are, most likely, sending PMs to people with the ITC's, and receiving ITC's for the coins on his behalf (which you send to him to use, so you never hold the coins) [/list] The first point basically, says no, this isn't alt abuse. However, if at any point you actually move the items yourself (jars/coins) expect people to question whether or not you actually are alts. Points 2, 3, and 4, on the other hand, are where things get a bit more interesting. All three points are something that is fine to do if you are not alts. There are very few rules against helping a friend. However, if you where alts, these would all constitute alt abuse as you would be useing one account to help another. Any form of communication from one account on behalf of another can be seen as alt abuse (although it is a very minor form). That said, since it is such a minor form of abuse, you would most likely receive some sort of inquiry or investigation if it was deemed abuse (whether you know about it or not) and then a warning of some kind telling you to stop (so long as you don't have a history of alt abuse). Basically, so long as you keep rough records of the transactions to prove that you never hold the coins or jars, you should be fine. Make sure your friend doesn't decide that he wants to give you a present of coins for the advertising work that you do for him though Might make people suspicious (he can buy you credits if he wants to give you an in game present, just not items) [b]Long answer short, no it shouldn't be.[/b]

The music at scenes changes every now and again, in a few months it might be something more integrated

Personally, my main annoyance at the way Grido handled this is that he used the triggers instead of the Mood Panel. I don't like what happened, but aside from the use of the trigger box, as a player, disregarding his role, it is fully within his rights to have handled it the way he did. However, useing the Trigger box to advertise this matter, when generaly not disclosing the terms of other punishments, seems very unfair to me. That said, What Grido does is his, the councils, Mur, and the other parties matter, not mine. I don't need to know the details of a punishment, because I trust him to handle it correctly. If he doesn't, then it will be on his head. To use the example everyone else does, the dst matter. Why does his lack of disclosure not bother me on this matter, even a tiny bit?[list] [*]This matter was HIGHLY publicized. [*]The council/Mur involved themselves (as displayed by the announcements) [*]Grido needed to act in a formal capacity, not as a friend [*]While some people disagree, I personally feel dst is EASILY mature enough to understand the difference between what someone does as a personal choice, and what they do as an official choice. I am also very certain Grido feels the same, so he wouldn't be worried that what he did would be interpreted as a personal attack instead of a formal reprimand. [/list] Basically, because The Powers That Be where paying clear attention to the matter, if they are okay with what ever punishment Grido put on dst, I trust it was the right one. Because I trust Mur. I trust the council. I trust Grido. And I definitely trust dst.

Request this topic to be closed. The contest can be found [url="http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/10722-the-grasan-replacement/"]Here[/url].

12pm is 12:00 in 24 hour time. 1pm is 13:00. 12am is 00:00, so 12:15am is 00:15.

My BASIC research on Aramours comes to ~4800 characters >.> I'm going to be submitting ONE paper for a fortnight, when the team is ready.

Just found the above artwork in the 3.0 Monster Manual II under the entry Famine Spirit. With a release date of September 1, 2002, it looks like DND had it first. The image is identical to that used in 4e Monster Manual II for the Corrupted Glutton. I've gone through my books, and haven't found any other artworks. I've been checking the few hundred avatars I have as well as creature images. I've looked through: 3.0 Monster Manual 3.0 Monster Manual II 4e Monster Manual SNS Creature Collection

[quote name='Muratus del Mur' timestamp='1317828996' post='93339'] this saddens me. It is very likely the artist that made this artwork for me copied it from dnd. Some of his work i couldnt use because he did that and when i found out i stoped working with him and removed all artworks i found copied. However some apparently escaped me. Now i have to remove the grasan , or at least change that level. Regardless if Wizards say anything ever, i can't stand having copied art in md. And when i think this one means also the "pimped" level .. please look more into it see if other creatures are in there as well. [/quote] We are looking through to see if any others turn up. Haven't found any yet, but I only have a small collection of the books myself. However, if as it looks like it turns out that you had the original image and they copied you, that would mean that They are the ones breaching copy right, and they have to change the image, not you. [quote name='Amoran Kalamanira Kol' timestamp='1317837117' post='93350'] First.. I highly doubt that this image has been traced over in any way, shape, or form. It looks very free hand and has very clear differences from the version depicted in the DnD manual. A copied image would look literally identical in pose, shape, dress, shading, etc. I believe what you all mean to say is that the idea for the grasan was taken from this particular creature in the DnD manual. I doubt very much that the creator of the grasan artwork has any reason to trace. Also, I will say that the general idea for the shape of the grasan creature is very common so it doesn't surprise me that this has come up, especially since the illustration for the 'Corrupted Glutton' came out in 2010. [/quote] Amoran, I believe you have missunderstood. It looks like DND stole the artwork from MD. In which case the Corrupted Glutton is barely changed from a grassan II. [img]http://i56.tinypic.com/2mebcdl.jpg[/img] If you compare that to the artwork for the Grasan II (which I won't upload unless Mur says I can, what with the no spoiler rules), The arms; legs; clothes; number of fingers; lines on the chest; mouth pose; eyes; head; feet; stance; are all clear reproductions. It is clear that it is not a tracing, because the creature appears to be looking slightly right instead of straight on, however it looks exactly like someone has sat in front of a picture of a Grasan II and drawn it freehand.

Just to clarify, this statement refers specifically to the granting of the access keys to someone, not to limiting use of the tools, yes?

I've got all the 3.5 monster manuals, and haven't found it in them. However, that doesn't mean it isn't in an even earlier edition. Hopefully we had it first, since I don't want the Grasan to get a new artwork, and I don't want MD to get sued for copyright infringement

I was looking through the 4e DND Monster Manual III today, and found an entry on page 54 for the creature Corrupted Glutton. The artwork for this creature is almost completely identical to that of the Grasan II. This particular edition of the Monster Manual was first released on June 15, 2010, however the image may have been recycled from an earlier edition. Since this image is copyrighted by Wizards of the Coast, it would be a good idea to find out which came first and why they look so identical. Here is a [url="http://www.scribd.com/doc/53745642/Monster-Manual-3"]link[/url] to a PDF of the book. The page has a document scanner so you can locate the "Corrupted Glutton" entry very quickly. [IMG]http://i56.tinypic.com/2mebcdl.jpg[/IMG]

The group of us who are doing this job voluntarily (Mur hasn't picked us, and may form his own team in the future) are currently discussing it. We should get back to you in a day or three.

If the majority of the community felt Grido was doing something wrong, then something would probably change (either from the top down, or better yet Grido would reflect on the results and try to change the public opinion of him). Think of the French revolution. Almost every peasant had the same opinion, however because they where not united nothing happened and the abuse continued. However, since the majority of the public (who responded) seem to feel Grido is doing a good job, then while Pips views may be valid for his position, it suggests that Grido is still doing a good job. A few issues that the community deems as ill dealt with do not, and should not, condemn someone. Whether this means that nothing will happen is not clear. The sheer fact that this topic was made should make Grido think about the way people perceive his role and actions (note: perceive them, not what they actually are). The way that the poll turned out in Grido's favor will hopefully also make Grido's detractors think about why it turned out as such, and hopefully try to understand both their, and Grido's, positions better (there is nothing wrong with either perspective, however it is important to remember it is your own perspective first and foremost, and no-one at all has the whole story).

Brilliant, Shem