Chewett

I now have a bug report from Eon. Thank you Eon.

Generally in situations like this you need to step back and look at the whole situation rather than any sum of parts. Here is, from what I can see, what happened and what has angered some people. Grido used a tool which lets his excommunicate and jail Eon, losing the alliance. This is a perfectly legal move, and as one of the kings of the land he can do this (or really anyone holding that tool, but thats another matter). It then appears Eon used a bug to leave jail. Here he made a mistake by not reporting the bug. At this point I think grido tried to send Eon back to jail by grabbing him. From what I can see this didnt work (due to whatever) and therefore he decided to use his jail spell to do so. Here he made a mistake as he forgot the most important rule "Do not use admin tools for situations you are involved in". He also didnt report the bug (until later). And then everyone seemed to make a mistake by blowing up the forum again arguing about who is right or wrong. Roleplay your anger, even dst can roleplay, so can you! (mea culpa dst) For better or for worse, I am the only one who can if what has happened is abuse or not. Yes we have some rules which lead you to a conclusion but at the end of the day MD will always be run by people, and not a set of continuously moving goalposts. So then it comes the question, what do I think? What harsh punishments shall I lay out? The first thing I have to think is, what would I have done about Eon escaping jail? Well he never reported the bug and just used it. I still havent actually had a bug report so Eon is clearly in the wrong here. I hope I will receive one via email/PM soon. Technically abusing a bug and not reporting it, especially one leaving jail is quite a big abuse, but I will get onto that later. Then I have the question, what do I do about Grido who is, clearly, according to the rules, abusing his admin powers by using them to "fix" something. He has admitted that he made a mistake using them and should have contacted someone else to resolve the situation. The rules do point out that Eon therefore does deserve to be put back as he "broke the rules" by escaping, so he does have some footing, but he acknowledges now that he did do wrong. Abusing an admin spell is also quite a big abuse, similar to the one Eon did. But, in the end of the day we have had two good conclusions from this. We have had a little bit of excitement (Eon does send wonderfully Roleplayed PM's) and some action and I have had a time to clarify some rules for everyone. And we have a new bug to fix! (well... newish, I think I know the bug they used) Therefore im going to do nothing to either of them. Grido has understood what he did wrong and I believe Eon will be sending me a bug report tonight. I can imagine some are going to go away from this going "oh letting them get away with murder" but actually punishment is used in MD as a learning point generally. I think both parties have learnt something. I shall survey what is happening over the next couple days and have a think about the situation. Kyphis has already offered asylum so potentially another land might also let Eon escape by doing this. ----- The take home message I would like to impart on everyone is, The rules are not hard and fast and we try and be fair. Both parties have abused something and hopefully learnt something too. And all of this fun, should have been ingame! I act in this situation as the GM (so Eon you can stop sending the marvellously worded PM's asking me to declare my loyalty) because you guys can roleplay, and you should :)

Havent forgotten. Still not home.

Locked Make a new topic if you want to discuss this nicely. I will deal with this tonight but all I will say is Grido should have known better than to have done what he did without asking.

We have very simple rules that should have been used in this case, if you have admin spells you cannot use them to aid your case or resolve something related to you. You get someone else to. I will remind people about this tonight when home. But the rules with this are clear. Grido shouldn't have used the spell.

Please say you didn't use your jail spell Grido as that would be an abuse. Also go into the game to have this fun

It also doesnt seem entirely fun to be hoarding the awesome avatars. So if anyone is selling to junior, I will increase the price :P

To expand on my previous post, people generally feel like they are not the ones to be suggesting changes or working on making events and other things because they generally feel its not their place to step in, decide things, or rally people. This was ideally what the PC was going to do, taking more decisions that the HC used to, and I used to. By empowering as I did I hoped that they would do these kind of things. Making them "official" to the masses hopefully conveyed some "difference" in them. Public opinion was quite favourable and they had some quite cool plans and indeed did help with halloween but it didn't overall pan out how I planned.

Luckily I have never read the rules

>I think PC should be a no and the "smaller group of interested players" should be "restocked". Players like that don't take initiative like the HC did and the PC could have

Its fine, If he hoards them for too long I will steal them :D

I have moved since I last did this so if anyone is sending one to me please ensure you get a new address. Im planning to send mine out next weekend (doing them tonight)

important question

Christmas points changed! 1st place - 5 Christmas points 2nd - 4 Christmas points 3rd - 3 Christmas point Anyone else completing the quest will be given 1 Christmas point and 5 silver.

> not sure if Chewy is going to give more rewards to those 3 winners or will all the other players that solve it after those 3 also get something 'standard'. :) Depends on what you tell me about it. I will review later, have about 30 PM's about stuff to read.

Other rewards are available too once Jubba provides me details of difficulty

6s

I have moved it over and fixed roph's code. Should all work now :)

This only works if you are on the non HTTPS site. This is because bmmorpg doesnt have a https certificate. I will move toms stuff to Magicduel and provide the new URL.

I will have a look when I get home, might be a tag issue

A super secret project is defined as one dst doesn't know about

I know this is a long shot but can someone poke shadow seeker and tell him I want to talk to him about something please

If anyone talks to handy pockets please could You send her my good wishes and mention I am interested in talking to her about a secret project.

I need someone to draw me some new items in the style of MD scenes to add items to the scene. Anyone know of active artists in md or those who could work on it? Super secret work