Chewett

This bug should be fixed

Thank you Miq. The recommendation is noted but Fang is not being considered for any roles while he holds his current important one and hasn't completed his task. Assuming he doesnt want to give up MP7 for the tool guardianship.

That item is only a testing item and does nothing so it not inclined to fix it currently

This has been resolved.

As discussed on PM's, I will support this officially once the final particulars are cleared up.

Should be fixed now.I have just run it manually now.

I think you missed a key point there Fang. Attempting to shut down a conversation by stating you know spent x years and talked to Y person isnt really the discourse we want. If you dont want to discuss what you know, we can therefore only judge you on what you claim. We can all decide what we think of your experiance "a year+ Dead, and quite a bit of that time was used to conduct research in Necro as well as talking to Lash/Samon". The whole attitude just aims to shut down a conversation by supposed superiority. Its wrong. Now that doesnt excuse Neno from making the comment either. Which is also wrong. But clearly they dont consider your supposed knowledge of being dead as meaning anything. Given that I have seen no actual "knowledge" I an inclined to agree here, thats a personal opinion but hopefully you can see why others might also think its just a load of hot air. I know you havent been massively active, but there was a lot of activity in Necro when The Chaos started. So its more open than you believe.

Hi Fang, quick question, what gives you any knowledge on the current Necrovion situation? What knowledge did you gain there? Anything interesting? On the Necrovion chaos, I will make this official statement. Given the past activity of the shades, and the more recent Necrovion Rebels, it isn't entirely surprising that something has occurred to cause the chaos. Read through the most recent AL (whether you love it or hate it) and see the desperation. Something had to happen, and it did. What happens soon? well As for "Its not open", have you been in Necro recently? Looks pretty open to me. ----------------------------- For everyone: Its always nice to see pride in your knowledge in the game. Mur and I love the theories and debates we have with players. But please remember to never tell people they don't know anything, or that you know the best. Its very likely you don't know "the best" about something, Mur and I don't. There are some legitimately gifted players in MD who have managed to work out a wide range of secrets/lore that we have codified into the games and we are always happy to see more. Sometimes we get ideas that while we hadn't considered, make perfect sense in MD. Then these become "canon" and we seek to integrate more hints about this new lore into the game. This is why I said Mur and I don't know everything, like everyone else. Idling in a scene for a month, year, decade doesn't magically give you knowledge. Many land leaders in the past had no real understanding of the lore behind their land, and thats fine. Not all players care about the lore, even if they are fiercely defensive of their land. Arguments, demanding people are wrong, and this kind of general vitriol is what upsets everyone. To quote a line of my favourite poem "Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious to the spirit.". We can be better than this, and we should be. ----------------------------- To make a comment on the tools, I wont be giving out any tools for the current time. Unless someone can show me that a certain locations tools are being abused and the item is required. You are welcome to make any and all comments here to persuade me. However, as I said above, this is my current criteria.

Good catch thanks! I will have a look at this tonight. I imagine this has been broken for a while...

Hi Fang, this is the official reply to your application. After speaking with numerous people so as to ignore my own personal feelings towards your application here. It has been denied. Generally the concerned raised by the MD public, which mirror mine in some regards are: There was a general comment about whether you would be able to professionally deal with all MD'ers, based on past behaviour. There was a concern you had misunderstood the role (its wont "give me the ability to hand out the Golemian Tools as i see fit, to all who ask for aid, no prejudice, no bias") Some questioned whether the role was needed, given it has been unfulfilled for a while. Some were unsure why you would want to give up your MP7 role given "This is a MAIN role, its a full time role so to say, but will require your time just in the first few days after the items are regrouped." On balance, there were also a few people saying that you should be given the chance to try the role. This also provoked some discussion from a number of senior MD'ers and to summarise, the general consensus was that this role, in its current form, isnt needed in MD. That it may become more important in the future but for now it shouldn't be something that time is spent on managing and distributing tools for. Most agreed that it would be better to move them all to shared role based titles, so people who belonged to the land could become it as needed. Stopping "stale roles" and "role hoarding". From most of the private comments and messages, I feel it is important to say you are welcome to re-apply in a couple months, if something significantly changes in MD (to warrent tool guardians being more important) and you have shown your new professional side a little more you were telling us on discord about. Thank you for your application As a note, while it was originally made in 2016 I was leaving the application to Mur, this being his thread. After much time had passed and it was clear he was not likely to reply, I began to look into it. I wasnt sure at that time whether you should be given the role and spent some time deliberating. After that, you got killed and began explained you would be spending a year dead (I cant quite remember whether it was a year in the end) and therefore you were not applicable. Since you contacted me a couple weeks ago telling me you had found a way to never die, I re-opened your case. And here is the response. Hopefully this is satisfactory for you. In hindsight I possibly should have dealt with this sooner given Mur's elongated absence on this topic.

If anyone has posted, and havent recieved a WP, please reply!

@Assira the Black Congrats, you certainly did well, WP for you too!

WP FOR YOU!

You still did a good job, 1WP!

Amazing, 1 WP! Congrats

Right, Found the issue. I was logging to a file every time a warning/notice appeared so I could fix them. Turns out page loading time quadrupled due to this... Lots of Mur errors! Iv disabled this for now also performed another performance pass. It should be much faster than before (back to standard MD speed).

There is something weird happening tbh, Iv reverted the entire of MD back to olde MD, and I will debug this further tomorrow/wednesday. Thanks for the reports.

Is it happening currently?

Still a bug, please dont close it.

Thanks for the report, I will look into it We have had a number of ddos type attacks lately which have overloaded the server, Not sure if this is still the case.

Fixed, Many thanks!

That script was super old and not properly using the old DB layer (let alone trying to use the new one). Its fixed up now and I will review all the crons now. Many thanks No one!

Please dont try and dictate when I should/shouldnt work on it. Its easier if you tell me immediately. Whats the crit id?

Ah yeah, the gift creature had its tokens screwed up in the DB, I assume from the process Mur used to create it (by hand?) Try now, I should have fixed the 10 broken crits.

Whats the ID of that broken creature? Can you paste me the full error,its cut a bit off the end as far as I can see.