apophys

@Aysun The cycle would be birth, life, death, and void. In my opinion, birth is encompassed in syntropy, life in light, death in entropy, void in darkness. The exact moments of birth and death are a change of balance.

Hmm... if the shop guards cause errors due to their 6 aramors, then one of the storymode shades should do the same; it has a rit of 6 shades.

As dst indirectly points out, there is a conflict of interest here. By being the judge of entries, you will be biased toward positive remarks. But a separate judge would of course not know what you can be thinking... The fairest way I see for this to continue is to have a separate judge or panel of judges, and to judge based on quality of writing with no emphasis on truthfulness. Or just change the topic of the writings.

Your forum mail is full.

Maybe the archers grouping is a hint to a deeper connection?...

Unfortunately, No one, it seems the new people don't appreciate your concern. [quote name='dst' date='29 June 2010 - 02:13 AM' timestamp='1277795600' post='62916'] Do you think that it's normal for an mp4 to have [size="5"][b][color="#FF0000"]10k[/color][/b][/size] attack? I find it horrible! I will support Burns with every tools I have and I will help him as much as I can. @apophis: I missed your post today (I saw it after you edited it but I've asked around what you said in it) and I was shocked! You call yourself a vet but you have no idea what Burnsy was talking about? This is the [b][color="#FF0000"]PERFECT[/color][/b] example of what GGG does to players! [/quote] *sigh* I had hoped my previous post would be the last in this thread, but you're making me look stupid, dst... [spoiler] I know a way it can be done: guardianarmy + mirror, lifestealer @ 100%. I heard, however, that guardianarmy doesn't work on alts. I never would have suspected that there could be mp4s so cheap as to be proxies, for "a shiny coin." It seems I overestimated the community. [/spoiler] I totally agree that an mp4 with 10k attack is unacceptable. But if this is your only problem with the GGG, ask Mur to implement a cap on stat gain from sacrifice (Kyphis' idea), rather than terrorizing the newbs. I quote you, "violence is not the answer." @ Burns - I did not rise to mp5 because of you or this protest; it's just coincidence. I rose when I did because I got credits for a rusty, and I want to train it. I made my decision to rise a long time ago, and I made it final when I got clicky editing instead of an XP reset with my last WP.

[quote name='Burns' date='28 June 2010 - 02:25 PM' timestamp='1277753146' post='62884'] Allies are awesome elite groups, you won't find many ally-people who don't have a bunch of superpower creatures. [...] ally-folks are the most awesome elite creme de la creme of mp5 [/quote] I guess being an ally mp5 without superpower crits makes me special, then... and thanks for the compliment... Oh, yes, I rose to mp5 a little while ago. :S Sorry if it looked like I personally was afraid of mp5; I was speaking for the mp4 who rise to mp5 without even reaching the level I am at. Balance is overrated, Pip. And I've beaten Phantasm when he was going random. [quote name='Fenrir Greycloth' date='28 June 2010 - 12:26 PM' timestamp='1277746009' post='62871'] I am curious, what solutions do you propose, apophys? Bronzometh? Or anyone else who has been flaming this topic for the past two weeks? [/quote] I personally see the GGG as a symptom of an unbalanced combat system. Fix the system and the GGG will evaporate.

Thank you, Chewett. I did not realize my imprudence. I'll try to make it less rude; it was not my intention to flame. I was not trying to accuse Burns of bug use; I just asked... to make sure... Okay, maybe that question would have been better in a PM. I'll do that. ._.

[quote name='Burns' date='28 June 2010 - 02:02 AM' timestamp='1277708552' post='62828'] And what they do, and what you do, is quite simply scaring newbies away. You complain that mp5 is so hard. What d'you think how a new mp4 feels when looking at nadrolski's tree with 5k defence? Huh? Does he think 'Oh, what a nice guy, he lets me have a free win or two', or do they think 'OMG, he has 5k defence, i have 20... I can stop playing now, i'll never beat that'? [/quote] Ask them what they think. I'd be willing to bet that they think the former more. But if mp4s join an alliance for a preview, they will see drachorns & tokens galore (validating their suspicions). Of course they will stand no chance against most attacks, and at the current rate they never will by using only public creatures & methods, without spending a fortune in the MD Shop. (The only reprieve are angiens. And now with the combat change, they have been made far less effective.) Ask the mp4 trainees what they find more intimidating: Supercharged drachorns they cannot get, or trees with defense? I've had 420+ active days, and I'm not even halfway to a GG, silver-wise. I just now got enough credits for a rusty. I thank Mur for avatar creation; I'll be able to get a rein for my 3rd Christmas. By attacking right and left for stats, mp5s have an aura of heartlessness imposed by the system. I don't know of any vet mp4 who is a threat to most other mp4s. I don't mean combat-wise; I can name several, including myself, that most mp4s stand no chance against in battle. My point is that no superpower mp4 uses his power against other mp4s, because there is no benefit. I.e. no threat. Most mp4s stand no chance against me (but I don't go around attacking them; I won't get any benefit). Now consider that I stand no chance against most mp5s, who do attack me. This shows you the sheer enormity of the gap, which is, I think, the main reason mp4s don't go to mp5. Close the gap; fix the combat system. The problem of fearful mp4s will never be solved by force. Bronzometh is a typical mp4; guys, don't neg rep him for his solid points. <edit: imprudent question removed> [quote name='Burns' date='27 June 2010 - 04:00 PM' timestamp='1277672419' post='62791'] I can't force you to enter mp5, correct. I can stop you playing mp4, though, and i can do that very effectively^^ [/quote] <edit: rudeness removed> By doing this, you are not pushing people to mp5. They won't go. You are only pushing people into alts. If you terrorize the alts, they'll leave for good. <edit: rudeness removed> EDIT1: Ah, wonderful, the -rep is coming to this post. Why? Have I made invalid points? Have I not explained something fully? If so, correct me. Don't -rep just because you don't like the content. EDIT2: Nevermind edit1.

Yep, you counted right. Miq 14, Yoshi 13.

3 silver each for #6 & #7 angiens.

(locations 7_statuehalldoor_1) has a restricted phrase - stat - in it. This seems to mean that, currently, no script can be placed on the pillars by the door, or in any other such place. I guess the location setting needs to be able to read off a variable, or something. (disclaimer: I'm a noob scripter)

apophys, mp4, Sentinels, 420+ activity days. Signing up for; Day 2, 3, and 4. Top List: Chewett, Metal Bunny, Yrthilian, Akasha, Grido & dst , Shadowseeker

Miq

Could this occur regularly, like weekly, or twice a week? Please? :3 I unfortunately came exactly 24 hours late.

Out of Seph's list, I'd vote for Miq. I know him more than the others and think he fits Mur's criteria best. I still prefer it to be automated, if possible, due to timezone difficulties. Or maybe have 2 people on the job, transferring keys to each other before logout. Incidentally, I saw Morgana le Fey on recently. Morg was the "Keeper of the Keys"...

Very good idea. But why averaging stats, the inability to attack, and the lowest MP being the default defender? Could more than 2 people be linked? I'm thinking of possibly using this for armies.

[quote name='Totenkopf' date='15 June 2010 - 12:06 PM' timestamp='1276621595' post='61942'] i use the back button on my mouse on firefox after choosing a wrong rit, and it takes me back to rit selection [/quote] Ditto. Just use the browser's back button. The keyboard shortcut is Alt+[left arrow key] .

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[quote name='Poppitz Resurrection' date='13 June 2010 - 08:25 PM' timestamp='1276478721' post='61850'] if u try to worked out with ur style above, then theres a chance for u to get a Victorious win [/quote] If done correctly, no... and the defender wouldn't get a sheath balance, either. I've done it for my TS pair and my imp, at the GGG in fact. I trained my angiens with them. It really wasn't much different from regular GGG training. The idea would only be effective at limiting multi-thousand win grinding. But for that, Kyphis' idea is better (capping stat gain from sacrifice), for the reasons Pip stated.

[quote name='Pipstickz' date='13 June 2010 - 07:46 PM' timestamp='1276476396' post='61845'] You might assume that GGG is against the rules, from my statement, but I didn't say that, did I? [/quote] You implied it; otherwise there's no point to your post. [quote name='Poppitz Resurrection' date='13 June 2010 - 07:46 PM' timestamp='1276476411' post='61846'] Yes Apo, theres always a chance to easily worked out for something, but for that case..even u win a fight with just deal 1 damage, as mp3/mp4..u still will be capped someday...And what are u going to train with 1-15 damage btw? is it worthy enough? Well.. Atleast with that "obstacle" u cant train ur trees,stealers and angiens .. which are the most valuable creatures to grind extremely .. [/quote] Let me give an example of what I meant: [spoiler]An attack rit could consist of 5 remains @ martir dying and a heretic archer @ damage random. The defense rit is a single non-damage creature at/near 100% slider. You can replace the remains by anything else targeting multiple or dying. Xp gain would be negligible.[/spoiler]

That's an interesting idea, Poppi, but it would be easily worked around. People would add a damager to their rituals for around 15 xp per attack instead of several thousand. [quote name='Burns' date='13 June 2010 - 05:31 PM' timestamp='1276468281' post='61835'] Apophys, Obviously you assume that hippie-programs are a basis of actual movement. breaking news: they aren't. [/quote] I don't get this.

[quote name='Pipstickz' date='13 June 2010 - 05:36 PM' timestamp='1276468604' post='61836'] (most) Tokens are already capped in what they can do for you. Besides, tokens and creatureboost are bonuses that are gotten through supporting the game with the MDShop. How does GGG help the game? The answer is that it doesn't. It only makes it easier, which is the same thing spoilers do. Spoilers are against the rules, are they not? [/quote] A is a subset of C (spoilers make things easier) B is a subset of C (GGG makes things easier) A is a subset of D (spoilers are against the rules) From this, you suggest B is a subset of D (GGG is against the rules). This is a fallacy, Pippy. By your logic, I could argue to reset your account to make thing less easy for you. Name me one player who is too powerful because of the GGG; I am unaware of any. If people want to waste their time on stats in the GGG, let them. The only problems I see that the GGG could pose are dividing the public, and suppressing RP. This is easily solved by moving it to a more central location, and encouraging RP within the GGG.

Let's return to the original post, shall we? [quote name='No one' date='03 June 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1275598475' post='60910'] You all say that some players are overpowered, some creatures do too much damage. YES, you allowed some to over (ab)use this GGG to achieve all that. [/quote] Some players are indeed way overpowered, but they did not use the GGG to get to that state. They used tokens, especially on creatureboost creatures. Protest this, please. [quote name='No one' date='03 June 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1275598475' post='60910'] All of the players should be attack-able at all available locations with whatever anyone desires. That should be the first rule. [/quote] You technically may do so, but you must accept the social stigma, spells, and item casts when you do. So, this is already in place. [quote name='No one' date='03 June 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1275598475' post='60910'] Also, any use of spells to send someone away because they don't like the attacks is an aberration and should be punished. That should be as a second rule. [/quote] Similarly as with attacks, spells can be cast freely, but the caster must accept backlash. It's a battle of wills, basically. So, this will not be implemented. [quote name='No one' date='03 June 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1275598475' post='60910'] Any gathering for "ggg kind of reasons" within closed location should be forbidden. (This cannot be achieved at this time but it should be enforced) [/quote] It is technically within the rules, as is your protest, so it will not be forbidden. [quote name='No one' date='03 June 2010 - 03:54 PM' timestamp='1275598475' post='60910'] I hate ggg grinders that gained HUGE amounts of stats for nothing, no effort what so ever. [/quote] Stats without knowledge how to use them are pointless. So why do you care? And now with the GGG shrunk, this is less likely to occur. Conclusion: The protest has no goals left to gain. So why is it not officially over yet?

Reuploaded and approved. Thanks, Mur. Topic can be closed, I suppose.