Grido

VE can get reduced, Win count can't....

Do they need to be posted anywhere? If they're not a big enough issue to ban then why make it so everyone can see? to make everyone frown at said person and say tut tut? if you really want to do something with it, email me at grido(at)ymail(dot)com

[quote]So ask for it to be renamed[/quote]I believe he already did, before any of this blew up

closed per request

please leave ~at least~ two days between bumps, read section rules

if the images are for personal use, then i see no issue that needs to involve Mur, so long as, of course, it's stated that it's a coloured version of an avatar in game (or something to the effect that you dont own the image, MD does). but yes, i agree that another colour in addition/instead of gold should be used to save confusion

i wouldnt ask Mur stuff here....it's unlikely he'll respond, ask in email

[quote name='Metal Bunny' date='11 June 2010 - 02:16 AM' timestamp='1276218992' post='61608'] :*), after so many years, so, very, very, many years, it's finally going to be fixed. Finally, no more newbies asking why it isn't in correct english. Surely, we have been delivered from evil [/quote]I am your deliverer and you shall bow to me bunbun @K, i want to say thanks, but the doc you sent is 16 pages long XD YAY work good job though, seriously @S, well i just did a few and seems to update fine...don't know what the issue you have is though

Can any/all observed spelling/grammer errors on the english "translation" of MD be emailed to grido(at)ymail(dot)com I now have access to the translation pages for it, so i'll try to fix them where they come in. --Grido note; i mean emailed, don't post here

"The member cannot receive any new messages" guess that kinda stoppers the send only via forum pm, huh?

Offtopic posts have been moved to http://magicduel.invisionzone.com/topic/7242-offshoot-from/ if people wish to discuss the topic listed there as opposed to the discussion on the Excommunication

[quote] [list][*]There is no restriction on the use of spells.[/list] The first round of fights will occur at GoE. Anyone can join, but those who have not been visibly part of the quest (if you have any doubts, assume you need to do this) should note in their own PLs which "side" they represent: Mya (and Darigan and friends), Ivorak (and co-conspirators), Renegade (people who want to attack everyone but still agree to abide by the rules of this phase of the contest), or Noncombatant (participating in the quest, but staying out of fights).[/quote] Can i list myself as none of the above?

Like i said, i never said that you werent allowed to use them, just that you never asked/got an official answer about it, that was my issue lol, honour to close the thread i actually cant, but i'll get another mod to, mods cant moderate topics they're involved in after all

firstly, COMPLETLY DIFFERENT THING, THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE REASON WHY THE TOPIC MAKER COULDNT LOG IN secondly, fixed

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='06 June 2010 - 10:07 PM' timestamp='1275858440' post='61174'] ps. thank you blackwood forest for making the logo [/quote][quote name='Blackwoodforest' date='07 June 2010 - 07:42 AM' timestamp='1275892959' post='61204'] You are welcome [/quote] Sorry, you're quite right, you never claimed it was your own work.... Sure, art is subjective, i know, but putting together several things without any/much of your own creative input isnt, you used an image from the game (which we dont know if you're allowed to) a template from a paint/similar program, a texture, and a couple colours, i see little creative input, when you take from so many places. I'm not actually going to look up international copyright laws, but vaguely; No person has the right to reproduce artwork that he does not have the right or permission from the creator to reproduce. If such an occurance occurs then it is up to the owner of the material as to if they wish to prosecute provided the material is copyrighted. (which the images of MD are). Just because something is not said, doesnt mean it's not true. (I'm not saying that it is true, i wouldnt think to assume) i'm sure if you asked then Mur would say yes, but the point is, you ~haven't~ asked.

[quote name='Rhaegar Targaryen' date='07 June 2010 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1275900902' post='61218'] so, by your definition, making artworks combining other works, isn't artwork? you do not know what art is, then. furhermore, it is not your place to be concerned over this. This wasn't done in secret, so you do not have to speak instead of Mur as the 'investigator' who found out about it. You also haven't quoted any copyrights that clearly show WHAT we aren't allowed to do, you were just making random thoughts. But, no matter the law or not, if Mur tells us what he wants to be done with it, I will do it (remove or leave the art.), since I am not that kind of person to continue the blind following of a law and abuse its holes. This is about... common sense. [/quote]BF isn't "combining" (in this case) he's using a program with a template of a shield, colouring it in 3 different colours (very easy) and using a magic cutter to cut round the outline of the master archer and then pasting it into the middle of the shield. Which quite frankly isnt art, and i could probably do it to the same degree, and i'm by no means an artist. And yes, i do know art. I am not speaking for Mur here, i never said that it wasn't allowed, just that it should be checked if it is. And you want me to go through international copyright laws for images? Because i'm pretty sure i could find an appropriate section if i looked (i'd have to find the copyright laws listed somewhere first though). So it's allowed unless you're told it's not allowed? Wow the amount of things i could write here using common sense about that line. [quote name='Blackwoodforest' date='07 June 2010 - 09:55 AM' timestamp='1275900914' post='61219'] Grido, it is so simple. See, I can´t draw. I seek images which seem to be a good part of a pic i have in mind. So i mixed them up, bit by bit, and finally the outcome is a new image. I use MD artwork because it is already part of MD. If I would use outstanding pics there will be no connection to MD and it would not fit as well. That simple I can´t produce anymore what I am about to create for MD, why continue then creating crap? It is like a DJ, he is not creating songs of his own, he only mixes them up and changes them and get a new resulted track. If he can´t use the original song anymore, he can´t mix up. [/quote]That isnt art that you say you do. Art is original work, even a DJ, (since you consider that art) is doing original work, because nobody else using the tracks in the same way as them, and besides they pay the creator of the music for the right to use it. @Pip, At no point does DR claim any of the art of his own he advertises it as MD.

[quote name='Blackwoodforest' date='07 June 2010 - 09:36 AM' timestamp='1275899798' post='61215'] Do I have to create things on my own? If I could draw like a freaking genius this topic would never ever been created, isn´t it so? So please stop blaming me for doing high quality s**t with others stuff And if not, I am unable to perform my art and I have to stop it [/quote] Generally that is what artwork is Well yes, because there would be no issue about copying artwork then, it would be all your own I'm not blaming you, i'm questioning it And that last part worries me, that you would cease to produce any artwork if you're not allowed to copy images

[quote]You two seem to be saying completly different things in responce....this confuses me[/quote] Princ sounds like he has no intention to contact Mur, and let Mur contact him if he thinks it's needed. You, BF, however seem to be saying you're asking Mur about this. Hence...completly different things in responce, which confuses me.

[quote]If there will be the decision that I have to ask the owner of the image rights every time, i will quit creating MD stuff on my way because I can´t do it otherways and this will consume more time then my whole MD lifecycle in complete.[/quote] i dont mean to sound offensive, but...are you physically incapable of making artwork that's entirely your own? if you are, then fair enough, but if you arent, what's the issue with just drawing it all yourself rather than copying images?

You two seem to be saying completly different things in responce....this confuses me BF, you say you are in talks with Mur about it, and Princ, you say that if Mur has a problem he should message you (ignoring the fact he's unlikely to read this thread directly)

[quote name='Watcher' date='29 May 2010 - 03:12 AM' timestamp='1275099127' post='60561'] I am curious whether you, Princ, or Blackwood Forest are aware of the potential copyright issues that might arise because of the created logo[s]s[/s]. In Blackwood Forest's offering, he used artwork to which MagicDuel, and therefore Muratus del Mur, holds the copyright. While the owner might not object to the use of this artwork for the stated intention, it would still be rather rude, not to mention illegal, of either of you to use said artwork without his express permission. Of course, if permission had been granted or the owner does not care enough to take the issue to court, then there is no problem. Obviously, it would be most prudent to check with him before using it. [/quote] *few words removed/changed to make it applicable here

and a bumpity bump

GGG = Golden Globe Gazeebo, i would reccomend exploring a while and experimenting before you go off to look for it though [quote][quote]How does trade work in this game? I seen people advertising crits for sale, but I don't see a trade option anywhere. Also, where do you get gold and such? I thought valuepoints was the only currency in this game.[/quote]Once you have item(s), you can trade them with other players. I'm not sure, but I believe one does not see their inventory interface until they have items/coins.[/quote]The interface is there, you just get told you have no items yet, it's a link above the mood panel titled "Inventory" Loreroot Guards - "Their strength is their weakness"

Happy Birthday Grandma May your cake not cause a forest fire, unless that's what you wish for of course...

closed...although clearly there's issues there that might want to be cleared up between you both