Muratus del Mur

Sometimes i wonder if nobody can see the SS in some of my actions or decisions. :ph34r:

This Necrovion event would have been the PERFECT subject for an AL story...but ..who...and..how to avoid past problems? Maybe someone, preferably a group -->hint<-- will actually write it, with details from the past of what happend, and what will happen, and will get releasted slowly and not in real time as it once was. I believe even like this it has the potential to be great. Actually if i think better of this, releasing event stories some time after everything finished to happen, might give us the chance to prepare the entire story well. It involves the majority not knowing what happen but seeing only the final result. I don't know what to do or if all this is possible, just a thought.

good its closed, gave me a chance to read it all. - a land is social unity combined with placement. If one fails , all fails. Don't confuse citizenship with nationality - read sun tzu -> the art of war, yes defeating an entire land without hurting a single one is not only possible but the ultimate purpose of a perfectly done war. - of the land gets closed, the purchased or given access will not be revoked but will become useless... however if the land opens, the access will be meaningless. i will get back with a decision after hearing what chew has to say. Azull sent me his view on things, so did dst, For now, what things i am thinking so far: - Name of the land will not change - Land will not be fully opened, this would be like mocking its long guarded secrets forever, and has no meaning in all this, this is the problem of the people of this land not of the land itself. - This will trigger a series of changes not a single one, expect to see them announced one by one..and some will not be permanent. - I received offers to "buy back" the ally via wishpoints and trust points, answer is no, not this time This issue is... there is a king, the crown(s) are valid. there is a land, there are no people, or at least they failed to defend themselves against treason. If i punish the people i hurt the land, if i hurt the land i hurt md, the question is WHO will take all the mess in the end, the ex citizens, the king, the land, md? From a principle point of view, to solve this issue it requires motion and should lead to motion, not a static solution. A punishment, direct or indirect, would be fastest way, but i admit its the bad way (still might do it)...the correct way would be "change", that means motion.

woaaa, now i am sorry i opened this post, i am dead now, i foresee the countless hours i will spend in front of the tv "preparing" to work :))) nice - Pi (old b/w movie, weird but..interesting) - Interstellar (boring in first half , amazing outcome in the last) - The Devils Advocate (lovely opinion in the end) - V for Vendetta (bad movie, amazing idea) - Deja Vu (best action movie involving time travel) - The Cube (must see all 3, end of last explains the beginning of first) and if you like calm murder mystery movies, try "Candlestick" (looks low budget and bad, but somehow i enjoyed it, good to sleep, good plot)

Necrovion is one of the lands with the most powerful tradition and history... but even the greatest things sometimes fall. Whatever happens now with Necrovion will create a precedent (but not a rule) for lands that are eventually left without alliances. Dst managed to make this happen, in a very legal way (according to Chew), and here is my view of all this. This situation was designed to be eventually, technically speaking, possible. Not desired, and for sure not aimed against Necrovion, but definitely possible. Therefore, you will not see a miracle save from all this, i will not just place an ally back so that Nc can be "back". Some sort of solution is however needed. There is a technical one and a social one. The technical one requires ages for me to do it (or a few days of work, but that won't happen unless a miracle happens to my time) or Chew to do it, but as he put it, this is indeed my problem to solve. The technical solution would be the best i think. It involves using the tag dispatchers created as part of A25 to create a way for ANYONE to obtain a role within a land, including a way to take over an alliance even if it is disbanded. This could be done based on land loyalty, combined exactly with this sort of situations when an ally is disbanded (and of course a time delay to let whoever wanted to disband it enjoy the moment). There are also a few other technical options i can think of, one of them would be that if a land get in this situation, whoever is responsible for it, would somehow be able to take over the crown....that would make sense actually..or give the crown back after whatever negotiations. The social solution, is the hard and ugly one, but back then when dst started to plan this action, i had only this solution in mind, not the technical one (and no i had no clue about her intentions). A land without any alliance, intentionally destroyed in this way, would either be declared deserted and its gates and locations open to all. Even its name could be changed to something like "Necrovion Wasteland" OR fully closed and everything inside it unavailable to anyone for a very long period of time. Both solutions might sound outrageous to many, but i insist that such an event would have a severe impact on entire MD. Afterall, this is the point of defending a land or defeating a land, the risk of such things to happen. I must think about this... it is not an easy choice ... the option to close it is the one i like right now, but i am discussing with Azull and Chewett and see what other possibilities there are. I will hear your opinions on this..they might influence my decision, but remember this is not a vote. I must thank dst for pushing md borders, again, to such limits where i must decide such things...regardless how angry i am on the mess, or how devastating this IS for the community, its a needed mess, to make us decide where the existing features actually lead. ps. please try to keep it short so i can actually read it. Thank you.

Thank you all! :)

for sure, heat is not meant to be gained just by fighting, not at all. Good you pointed that out...there should be a way to get heat in such way that heat from fighting becomes secondary... i have an ideea how...oohhh yesss:D:D... but chew will freak out ...or not, we shall see. (i prefer to do it first then tell, otherwise i lose interest in doing it)

pff thanks chew, i was afraid you said anything different when i saw this topic just now. Let me explain a bit more... the balance of wishpoints is meant to be in such way that you could pick only the easy stuff to get more wps. ...anyone can do...but if you want that extra wp you need to do the harder ones too. Its well designed concept and works only with one wp rewars, and as chew said, only on rare occasions might be different. Such occasions are for example when there is a need to push forward a certain TYPE of quester, (no , not a certain person). For example if i want to push forward in md people that build nice clay cubes, i could reward more to that quest, just because i am adjusting the balance of things, not because that thing is worth more wp. Wp is about collecting these points...you gain more by collecting more, not by getting quests with more. A wish is a wish, might be a more or les powerful wish, but this does not translate in more wps good chew, i am so glad when i see such things

@darkdemon what you say shows you understand nothing about the mp level in general @mralyon "please finish the unfinished" kind of ..s.thing.. is comming out like a ghost from time to time from people that never noticed how things in md "eventually connect to eachother", doing the mp hierarchy is NOT ABOUT DOING NEW STUFF, but actually completing the ancient structure started when all this started. Nothing in md is incomplete,..they are just paths growing in a direction, and sometimes these become completed and make more sense when connected by new roads... but very rarely is there something truly new, ...when i think of new i think new concept, mp levels are not new concept, this is about "finishing" stuff....its bothering how little care you show for how md is developed ..but pls go on complaining, about whatever whenever, thanks

@chew, you know what the funny thing is, my memory is so fucked up that i didnt remember what we talked , i just followed my "MD logic" and concluded all this.....this means my "md sense" is still functioning right and no, mp7 will not be about voting, that might be for mp6 ...mp7 is for both vilains and heroes ..it is like a powerup mode, ...how exactly will get activated i am still not certain, i think a heat related thing somehow, heat is fuel for "magic" afterall. Won't be fight related either. fights remain for mp5, i want mp5 to be top level for fighting by no plans for mp2 i mean that i also don't want anything there atm

What i have in mind and what will come out are two different things, ..here are some basic concepts that i wish to keep till the end..but maybe some things might change when actually implementing them. Chew might have his own notes and ideas, understand that these are just notes and whoever will do the coding will do as he thinks fit best at that time - to reach MP7 does not require to be MP6 first - MP7 is temporary/transient state, designed to offer total or partial high-level freedom compared to the other MP levels. - Wizardry level would be the best concept to describe MP7 - MP7 main ability will be to apply spells on others, spells from the "illusions" category - Authority of MP7 is far less than other levels, unlike MP6 where the level itself imposes respect - MP3,4,5 are generally related as technical features, MP6 and MP7 are not "evolved" steps of MP5 - I am seriously thinking to make MP7 a level with member cap per land, or even ways to help each land have his own MP7 role assigned...fixed MP7 seats...why not with individual set of tools, BUT not with fixed onwers...more lime shared items concept, but still you, not the "public character" feature - MP7 is the active hero mode, where one person can put in motion an entire land. therefore, several are needed at the same time to balance forces, temporary state, lots of fun, not a fixed person, reaching mp7 should be automatic, but through ways that involve somehow the community, No authority comes with this role, maybe even allow it to break rules for short time - MP6 is the peak of public society people combined with a lot of effort and passion, this is the covert enthusiastic Mayor position), very rare, 1-4max - MP5 is the most fighting active level (or its desgned to be at least, crit levels, etc) - most will get stuck here - MP4 is the emerging fighter, maybe more powerups here - MP3 is the eternal noob level, or level for the conservationists - MP2 is a MP7 clone with undefined use yet - MP1 is a god level design to stand out and not be really active in any form, but full powers I will not engage in discussion but i will read all your comments.

Ok i feel there are certain things in this topic that need a clarification from me...but i don't know where to start..with the personal grudges and dislikes fight i see here, or with the more serious conceptual and technical aspects behind MP7 1) whatever justifiable reasons you might have, many of you just show such an enormous hate against Fang, and i shall take it as a personal task to understand if this is connected to him being mp7 or him behaving certain ways. 2) to fang, i encourage evolution of own personality regardless of publci opinion, but md is not build of the average brutes ,.. here you find mostly people with lots of depth in their thinking, and if i see such general unexplained hate against you, its clear you will either adapt or perish. Attention, the problem is NOT that you have to suffer from this general hate, the problem is that if such hate levels are indeed so, you alter the general mood of the community...i can;t believe i just said that. 3) get it well in your heads, all of you, but this time dedicated to Fang. Chew and me BOTH rule md. I respect his decisions he respects mine. If i do something and chew wants id the opposite way, we talk and both re-analyze our reasons and decide unanimously on something. Listening to what chew has to say when it comes to criticizing my decisions, is not just a self imposed limit i placed on myself to keep balance and leadership sanity, but ALSO a treat Chew well deserves and earned on his own. 4) Fang is not that arrogant as it might seem, if he would have been a King you would see his words different. The issue here is that he doesn't understand his place, but neither do you! 5) jumping to me for anything is fine, as long as you are 101% sure that you didn't already tried with chew and he said no, and the opposite, do not go to chew crying if i said no to something..this is like cheating in a way. <WE ARE NOT TWO LEADERS WE ARE BOTH ONE> 6) Fang is not equal MP7, he is an unfortunate guinee pig that IF he survives all this without committing suicide by public imbecility (no offense intended here) he will keep only what he deserves. Now he is sort of a central target for mp7 discussions, but PLEASE REMEMBER, mp7 is not and wont be just one person Important note: if you place yourself under my "wing" , with statements like "i will answer only in front of Mur" and such, you will not get any sort of protection you might dream of, you will get just my own lack of interest to your problems, and an obvious public hate. Stop doing this. Its last time i say it. If you are so confident i am so allmighty, then be equally confident i will find an allmighty solution for you to run away from my "protection". I will and always be accused of favoritism ...can;'t make all things equal, where is the fun and learning out of that? However be aware that i am the type of mad experimentalist that uses side-effects into his main influencing factors of an experiment. Who is clever enough to place this statement into the current mp7 situation, has my admiration. Ask yourself this, would you become overnight the one and only mp7 in md, would your evolution path in the community be any better? Last thing. The observation and understanding of MP7 is hindered by two factors, one is the technical part that still needs development, and the second is the social storm created around one person. You are turning a puppy into a killer dog..but its fine, all of this is welcome, as i understand much more of social isolation from all this....and MP7 will be about this, same like MP6, that just because one single motif , was much less agitated (namely ability to get there on your own). Fang arrogance is indeed outrageous, and i personally hate it..i am sad i must reply with disgust to someone that shows me just respect....but his base character as a person , is in my opinion a quite decent and nice one (personal , biased opinion if you like)..so instead of dumping his head in the garbage bin for fun, or selecting a random quote from what he sais , pointing out that its a disguised form of "Mur said" abuse... i will bag his head and try once more to make him understand what he does wrong, and just hope his head is still attached to his body when i will be done with it. Enough about Fang please, i really wanted a MP7 discussion thread, and if not the only mp7 to open it, then who I will come back with a topic about mp7 posted by me, to keep it clean of fangness. \\ --Mur

Very interesting..apparwntly SOME of you find an issue with just about everything...but its fine :) Mp6 should have no movement limits..just access limits..and as some pointed out the ap cost is not an issue with many anyway. Foe torch cobtest...well ..mp6 is some sort of popularity cobtest in some ways so team up with the mightiest mp6 or ask them kindly not to participate...because i have no ibtention to revert this update. Regarding mp7 and m8 .. i never got involved with mp8 but i did with mp7, for now, the way i see things is that mp levwls after 5 should inherit eachothers properties but have different ways of achieving that level. Mp7 will be about illusions and casting illusions on others (maybe a spoiler:p) and mp6 ...is still a bit confusing.. Maybe after changing the way people gwt to mp6 it will be more clear for me if i can keep its initial purpose or adapt. I am very interested to see how this change will influence md..and how mp6 will be affected...so ..whoever gets there ..please send me a pm or email or post publicly about how or if this change made indeed a difference or is insignificant. My guess is that it has less impact than you might think..because in general people reaching mp6 are not the type of people that will go wild abusing stuff in any way...i am actually convinced that this change comes to lp them not to hurt them. As for quests that depend on ap...thei are unfair by definion anyway

fixed much more accurate now because it was not x$ credits (when you buy you get a bonus too so that was not 1$=1c), now is better thanks

fixed thank you

i have no ideea if its working either, nobody is using it anyway, i think it might be removed long ago ..can't remember. you can use western union as alternative (you will get the commission you pay to them in credits as well), email me if needed.

SOLD to Junior for 5gc Congratulations items transfered

no its ok. i sent the items. auction is over, a pleasure dealing with you Shadowseeker

transaction done. auction over. a pleasure dealing with you Nim

Junior is highest bidder with 5gc

items sent

SOLD to Nimrodel for 5gc! transaction will be at meeting of the roads

I am not taking silver , the auction is only for gold, i said that in the auction description. its why i make the auction afterall. So please exchange the silver. (its not clear if you already sent it or not, specify)

@Menhir: to research doesn't mean to be blind to other findings, just to rediscover them. I never took any knowledge for granted untill i rediscovered it myself too, one way or an other. -- All wishpoints sent, please check, somehow my interface behaved strange when giving them Thank you all for participating

SOLD to Shadowseeker for 35gc! Meet ne at neeting of the roads to complete the transfer