Muratus del Mur

when designing a feature that cant be finished untill it has actual data, priority is to gather the data. Current dna is exactly that, the RAW gathered data. The fact that there are almost no matches is beyond my espectations and tells me the gathered data is quite interesting. The matching, when that part will be complete, will not look for identical dna as it doeas now (its pointless, shows maybe luck only) , but will do grouping by subgroups. For exemple the color to number association is a totally separated part of the dna string and within that part certain color associations could be also grouped together and people compared by those subgroups. The purpose is more wild than you might think. It is not to profile the person behind the player, or the player account itself, but to profile the person to player integration. There is something i can best associate with a "dictionary" that each person (not player) has, and that dictionary of perspectives applies in certain ways when someone isolates a part of himself into a player account. I might be wrong, but i think the choices in the dna questions are made as per account not per person. The later uses within the game world are wild. In a few words it *could* add options to the game engine such as : prediction of someones actions in a given situation why: a certain situation could be profiled in a similar way and then compared to player dna to see tendency of choices a certain automated sense of group cohesion why: the dna choices describe how a personality connects to its surroundings, based on that some cases are incompatible while others are likely to fit well together ability to adjust a role to an individual and achieve things otherwise impossible example: what would you say the shade sentinel could actualy make you fear it in the most real, out of game way, and without doing anything explicit in that regard... scarry but possible. the other uses i can think of i am not sure if they are..ummm.. legal, lol, so i will stop here for now. In any case, the big big problem is the rate of suitable subjects. Only some people are suited for the color association tests and only some for the symbol tests. It covers just 60% (raw) of the population , based on a survey made in md long ago. It will not be possible to create a general valid mechanism, but if the accuracy is detected then it can be used only in those cases that fit 80-90% , for role specific actions. Consider this research and not a pending feature, because there are two cases in wich i might shut it down...it works too good, or it doesn't work at all. Sadly i have no psychology background and i also couldn't find anything similar documented anywhere so i am probably stepping in the dark here and i will discover thigs that others found other better ways to discover...but... there is also a chance that a new way will discover very new things also, don't you think?

in fact i did that experiment already and the outcome is depressing. As a social thing is not something wrong. A person builts up his circle of friends and reputation and they act similar to "stats". Imagine an amazing artist that just posts on this forum, but nobody knows him.. the feedback will be limited, some will not even bother to look. In the same way a person with great reputation will benefit of a much larger audience and people will dedicate more interest to the feedback based on the fact that they already tagged taht person as worthy to reply to, from previous experiences with him. The only thing that can compete with long term consolidated reputation is to do the right thing at the right moment. In that point of view, its nothing wrong with the fact that some benefit of more attention than others. I do however dislike the total ignoring of those with zero or low popularity... how could they break that "im nobody" barrier if nobody gives them a chance. Try creating an alt and do a cool role, then do the same from a known account, you will see what i mean..its as if it is an other world entirely. i need to work on that aspect but so far i don't see any possible solution to it.

its true, but not my fault so to say. If i put an empty canvas and say its a paintung some people will still admire its beauty and find meaning where there is none. I cant say i dislike it, heh, who would... but it makes me curious if i would have posted this, or the poems, as an alt nobody knew its me....i really wonder. As for the current painting, i dont brag about things i am not satisfied with, so it kind of fuels my ego when i see compliments. Im proud of this one however i dont get mad on the bad comments, not at all, its interesting to see any reaction. About the price... no offence but .. lets say i cant find any reason why i would sell this for anything less that 1k, which is outrageous i know. Anyway _not for sale_ . Its weird , i would feel a lot better of doing or giving some art for free than selling it.

i never sold any art ever, not the sculptures and not any painting. I didnt looked for it to be sold. Its something I create and by that I put part of myself in it. It feels strange to make something for a price, and that price would probably be overestimated by me. The things I do usualy end up deserted or damaged in some forgotten place..that would be the only reason i would sell , just to know someone else takes better care of it than i do. So basically the default answer is "not for sale", but please amuse me, what would be a decent price you were thinking of? I never understood the price of art, lol.

the entire thing is about 1,5m height

by simply NOT doing everything i should have done, lol like i said, idle day lets generalise this...i like to think my purpose in life is to have each day idle in such way

results of an "idle" day oil on canvas, three separate parts the wall is orange in case you wonder [attachment=2479:tablou.jpg]

actual development of things and timelines differ based on various things, i won't go into that now. There are however certain concepts that will be followed with the rebel system. If you understand those its enough reply on my part. - Like with every new feature don't expect it to be fully stable or complete. The major thing was to aknowledge rebels as a separate type of citizens, how that will evolve depends on many unhappened things. - I see the rebel status as a sacrifice status. Rebels should suffer for their cause and "pay" to keep their honor. Hopefully that will keep all wannabe rebels away and make rebels a group that is serious about their intentions and not just a bunch of trouble makers - Being at the same time regular citizen and rebel of same land by using alts means for me a serious moral issue. Whatever automated or human controlled ways there will be to manage this, it will be treated more severe than a simple alt abuse. - I see rebels like some sort of resistance movement, not a way to protest on short term - Activity can be measured easy and accurate by counting all active players of that land and comparing rebels vs regular citizens percentage ONLY for the active players in a given period...like a week or a month. New players don't know it yet but older players should already be aware that you should deal with what there is and not wait for anything else to be finished or added. Some things could get done over night others could take month to complete, other things might change before they get developed. Md development is constant and quite active, but not always in the direction you might expect.

I am closing the recruitment stages, thank you all for participating. I will post after chirstmas probably (or sooner if i am able to) a post with details and comments about your submitted images. I am glad i was able to pick a few of you for the ally but before i name those i wish to comment on most of your submissions so you know how i based my judgement. btw, in the 4th stage nobody found the jackpot answer however there are several that fit the "sharpen" word. You will not get a pm from me, you will have to watch out for replies or new topics to see what i picked. Alsom you might not see it as such but it was a hard series of symbol tasks. Some i will name are already dedicated to a role and i will not accept them to my ally, however, i will think of a symbolic reward to give them , something that won't alter their current role. Thank you

as i already said, use images, i dont care about your explenations if you don't show some care by actually uploading an image as i asked. thanks

Sharpen this symbol, [img]http://magicduel.com/img/sotis/recruit2.jpg[/img] IMPORTANT I might post additional tests in stage 4 so watch the topic for updates I don't know at this point how simple or how complicated this one is for you but if it has a too high or too low hit rate i will continue with more tests in this stage Good Lu...nah..luck is not relevant

the more you try to judge others or THINK the wronger you will get. if i could manage this through pm i would do so , just so you wont see what others post, but i can't. i won't look at posts that say "i agree with x", you need to upload your own image, so i can see it, so i can see how YOU draw those shapes. I dont care if you agree with one or the other.

symbols are better than words, they can enclose a complex meaning, keep it, and throw away the details. While in symbol form, ideas have no manifestation, you can't tell what one or the other symbol is or means directly. To do that you need to expand it and let it aquire all the "details" it needs to form in a speakable state. In a way they are like seeds, they hold the DNA of the plant to grow, but they are not the plant yet. Symbols can not lie, its only our mind that knows lies, but symbols will always show their true face to those looking at them. However, very very few are capable of reading that true information a symbol sends. Most people gather their information elsewhere, they let the false messsages in without knowing how harmful they could be. -- Imagine you have a blank paper and that whatever you will write on it will be considered undeniable truth by the next person reading it. Now thats _POWER_ and thats what symbols look like when people abuse their power. A person with bad intentions could use a symbol with a certain meaning and present them as something else. A cruel thing happens then, people "feel" the true meaning of the symbol, but explain it by the "details" provided to them. When using this in a business for example, a company could use powerful symbols as their own logo, because people will feel their "power" but they will associate it with the compnay not with the symbol. These are secrets not many know, but enough know to have the major symbols "abducted" for predefined purposes. The pentagram/five corner star/pentagon for millitary, the cross you know already where, several designers used such tricks as well, probably uncosciously because the artist creating the logo felt it "right", but others i have reasons to believe they knew what they were doing. Look at Chanel logo. It comes from the designers name, but the shape "mean" something like "crossing times, chanel covered the past and will cover the future". As an ex-designer i know these things come from intuition mostly and not from research, but hey ..microsoft did extended research even for the color to pic on the windows desktop..so some DO know what they are doing -- why am i saying all these? well first of all because i was thinking to reply aranna with a "Maybe" but it turned into a long post I am seriously thinking to allow all interested to participate in the Sotis but as scholars. This means..you can watch but you won't talk. I can explain anyone about why some things are in a certain way and not the other, and most important, i can explain you what the symbol that you posted means so you know why it was wrong, or right , for this selection. It is however a problem of time. But..with the proper knowledge, provided there is no significant stubbornness in your head, i could "train" any person to understand basic to medium symbols. Maybe with the right clues a lot more of you will see what they are now missing. But my intention with sotis is to gather a few people, even one is enough, that have a certain type of ... idk how to call it..luck? intuition? I am 99% sure that none of you has any sort of training in symbols so it is not a matter of "who knows best" or "who is smarter" ..has absolutely nothing to do with that. aranna .. the real challange comes with the complex/advanced symbols, its there where you feel amazing when you crack the meaning of one or see something that is so obvious yet no one else saw it before you. On topic : ( ) Some discovered the "jackpot" symbol, i didnt expected that any would, but hey... you people continue to amaze me constantly. I consider it would be of great rudeness to name those that had it "right" without also doing everything possible to explain what "right" means in this case to those that picked other variants. Thats why first topics in Sotis that will explain these short tests will be public for a short while, be sure you get them before i make them private, unfortunatly i can't keep them public too long, i have my reasons (it will influence mentality of people in md to much..and that is ok with YOU that tried to apply to sotis, regardless what you did, but its very damaging if others not interested in sotis will read them out of context) I am so excited , i can't wait to tell you about the "solutions" of these tests and detail their meaning. Believe it or not, untill now i had close to nobody to be interested in symbols in such way, and now all of the sudden i get more people able to figure out how to counter them.

yes, and the following posts ill contain even more data, becuase the initial info i have now. In order to handle the more complicated things i need to put you on track somehow. For example in the stage 2 i tell you exactly what do to instead of telling you to counter thatn and to expect a dot.. In any way, i will not post reusable clues in the recruiting stages. for example the dot is a counter only for that particular shape with those particular proprotions so you can't use that tip for solving other stages. Everyone should participate in all stages. It is so unlikely that there will be a single one of you to fit my intuition pattern that i am already thinking of side awards for participation (in case i wont be able to name any of you). You should be proud anyway, except one or two answers , most of you posted really interesting things..much above anyone else outside md i know of. They might not be what i was looking for _exactly_ but they show you are not blind to "symbols" ...and believe it or not, most are. Just do this test in your RL ..ask someone to counter this symbol..they will probably react like "counte...whaattt?" , you will have then to explain them as good as you can, but then some will just say "oh, the game stuff you are playing, is this some trick?" .. or will try to do it in a way that will be outrageous even to you. I am impressed so many of you put their "brain wheels" in motion so fast for something that is so out of the ordinary (how many times have you "countered" a symbol before?

The following challenge consists of fragments of a bigger thing. So try to do exactly what i say it needs be done. The lower part of the following symbol requires one single dot placed in a certain spot . The placing of that dot is of extreme finesse , please be sure you are placing it in the exact spot you intend to and not just in "the area" where it might be needed. It needs to be placed somewhere below the symbol. [img]http://magicduel.com/img/sotis/recruit3.jpg[/img] For your information, that dot if placed right acts as a half counter, it will actually counter the symbol (just the lower part) but will keep its power available This is advanced stuff, i don't expect any of you to pass this stage, so post with confidence, you have nothing to lose or to be afraid of Good luck P.s. i will await your replies on this on with most interest as this particular one has a personal story for me.

Any of you is welcome to try the next stage of this selection process. I will give each of you an evaluation based on your answers so in the end i will be able to make a list with those accepted into SOTIS. Each stage is increasingly difficult don't be fooled by the simple shapes and pay attention to the words i use. Find the symbol that cancels or closes the following shape. Specify in your reply if the symbol you posted is supposed to cancel, or to close. [img]http://magicduel.com/img/sotis/recruit2.jpg[/img] The optimal answer Might range from a two part up to a 8 part symbol, but same like before, the fewer parts the better the solution. One solution will hit the jackpot. Please don't inspire yourselves from what others post, it is not in your advantage. This filter doesnt require intelligence or knowledge to pass, none of you know "better" than the other, ..each knows its own answer. Clue basic: the following symbol has two areas of influence , an external and an internal one. Clue advanced: There are 3 types of symbols, the ones holding the meaning , the ones countering the first, and a third type that counters the counter and yet its not the initial symbol. note: it seems i was too unconfident in the 1st stage, thinking nobody will do a 1 part counter to that simple symbol..well someone did. My recomandation remains the same still, don't try a one part symbol. (because if you found it you will disregard my recomandation anyway )

I have the following problem... The recruitment will have probably 4 stages, but if i tell now who "scored" in a stage, you will all figure out what things i look for and your symbols will follow what you think i like best and not what YOU think. There is also an other issue, as Akasha pointed me out, ... these things are of very subjective and personal nature, the way you see a countering of a symbol is influenced by who and how you are. There is a correct version of the answer, but there are also many others..and many that are neither correct nor false. Naming them right or wrong would make you look as if you "FAILED" something, and its not fair. I am searching fer a certain type of intuition here, there are no rights and wrongs, there are just what i need and what i don't So...today this topic was supposed to be closed, and an other one to start. I will not name those elected and i will ask all of you to participate in the following stages also. In the end i will have to name some of you. If you somehow you feel that your symbol is very right but i somehow ignored its meaning, please see again that i used the word counter-symbol..not closing, not deviating the meaning, not reflecting it to balance, nope..just counter it..in other words ..stick a sword in its symbolic heart and eliminate it, without creating garbage symbolistic or "noise". If you still think you did that and i still didnt regarded your symbol as acceptable, I am open to discuss it and explain how i see things. That is the best thing i can do in trying to avoid making a personal thing into right/wrong sort of thing. Btw, just one or two..possibly three people hit the right one, ..so don't consider that if the majority posted something, that will be the good one..just be yourselves..it might matter a lot Stage 2 will be up this weekend, also with a symbol..this time more soubtle

I make a clear distinction between Christianity and Church, one is a inner path one is a cruel scam. The only thing i respect about the "church" regardless of its name, are the people, its not their fault fake answers were feeded on a plate for them just to keep them docile slaves. I know a lot more than you try to believe, but it might be in a tottaly different direction than you think. Your ego kind of steps on my nerves, and your bad jokes, like the one in the sotis post are an insult. It was a time when i thought "atheist" are more open minded than "believers"..this forum here proved me quite wrong. The worse things possible are those that get close to a truth but alter the final result in their favor...thats what church does, thats my problem with them. Honestly, i don't care of your opinion anymore. It requires a certain level of decency and respect to talk to some people (yeah me), not just initiative and brain (you don't lack those, but you lack the first badly). I am not a modest man, but i consider myself fair so in case you want to know, i had no "blacklist" for the sotis recruitment, not _anyone_, so you kind of gave yourself a permanent bad vote from now on on such events.. don't participate anymore in them, post your jokes on separate threads.

Welcome to the first recruitment for Soldiers of The Inner Sun. This will be a series of tests, unusual tests, where you intuition will matter the most (at first). The ideology and in-realm purpose of sotis will be presented to you only if you are selected, so you will have a final word if you accept the invitation or not, in case you win this series of small contests. ==== Find me the countersymbol of this one: [img]http://magicduel.com/img/sotis/recruit1.jpg[/img] There are multiple ways. A minimum requirement would be to find a 4 part one, however a 3rd or even 2 part one are better. I doubt any of you can master a 1 part counter symbol so please do me a favor and don't try it. I can see where you guessed and were you used your intuition. random guesses will make me consider you failed, even if you eventually hit the right answer. It is mandatory that you make your edits on MY image, either by hand (then photo or scanned) or electronically in an image editor. However, hand lines tell much more than computer lines so if you use an image editor please be careful about the details. I will consider them part of what you tried to "say" and i won't care they are caused by the tool you used or brush settings. ANYONE REGARDLESS OF AGE OR LAND AFFILIATION IS WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE if you get selected but cant join sotis because of other land loyalty issues ..you will still enjoy participating. Good luck! p.s. contest ends when i see lack of activity in this topic, so hurry or you might post too late. I anticipate 2-3 days at most. Counter symbol means: a symbol or a series of shapes that cancel the current shapes. it is an intuitive thing hard to explain, either you feel it or you don't, reason will be useless if you can't cancel this simple one. The tehnical details will come with future more complex ones, but this one you should try to feel it. Some simple clues on what counter-symbols should be like in relation to the initial symbol: break it, close it, reverse meaning, compensate balance, shift gravity point but honestly, if the simple word "counter-symbol" doesn't mean anything to you you will probably fail in fiding one.

I requested the move of several topics related to research or revealing secret md things to the Tribunal Border Research forum. These will be locked from now on. If you wanted to read them but delayed it now is the time to be sorry and smash the keyboard, they just became classified materials out of your reach ..and you almost had them i will include a few people in the group that can access that forum. The selection is purely subjective and personal, based on who do i think it might handle the things discussed there in a way that it will help me conduct my research or bring me useful information in the process. This is just a fraction of the people that could do it and over time i will keep adding people to it as i see fit. This is not a group of "those who agree with me", it also has nothing to do with your religious concepts, i appreciate both those that contradict me and those that agree with me, but only depending on the way they do it. If their ego doesnt step over their desire for knowledge, or their beliefs don't blind them from discovering things that might shatter those beliefs, they i will see it and i will add them to that group. People with a "fixed" mind can't be allowed there, its a simple waste of time for me to repeat myself or to convince others of obvious things..or to hear impressions that bring nothing valuable or trigger no interesting thoughts. It also requires a lot of patience to handle the things there as i tend to write much and that implies a lot of time to read. Sadly for you, access to the section doesn not imply any benefit within md world, or any special social status..and i will kick you out if you will use this access in any way to pretend more "special" or more "deserving" in md. This group also implies no affiliation with Tribunal lands, but tribunal lands is the host of the topic, being a dominion of Mur, Mur being the creator of MD, its only the tribunal that can handle an area mixed between MD and RL officialy. initial people in: Rendril, Sharazhad, (Zl-eye-f)-nea, Malaikat Maut, Shadowseeker, Roland, Grido, awiiya, Yoshi, Aysun, Laphers, Burns this are just very few i remembered now, but the list is longer.

Ok, here is a list of people i will reward. [b]Each gets one WishPoint[/b] but i am not sure right now who should get the reindrach. I will open the topic again and I will ask the ones i name below to tell me what do THEY think it was the one wish that convinced me to reward them. Don't invent new wishes, just name the one from what you already wrote. Write it again don't just say a number please. Based on that i will decide who gets the Reiny. Awiiya Indyra dst Marvolo Lintara Chewett Those that wonder why they didn't won.. first of all it was a question about what you CAN do but you don't. I eliminated all that made wishes that didn't depend on them. The ones selected got selected because one particular wish i liked, not all. This is a very subjective decision , and it should be one. Afterall it is my own private quest so i can be as subjective as i wish to be Someone will contact you about the rewards, or assign them directly. might be Curiose (hired her on temporary time, see forum topic about it), or it might be someone from the new tribunal treasure keepers i am trying to assamble. Thank you all for participating, regardless how i considered your wishes it was very interesting to see what other people could wish for.

Now check this out. First of all my reasons to put 81 are different than the ones you discovered. They are based on four fold balance symbolistic and the current land balance. I said 7 is the number i searched for, yet 8.1 (not eightyone) was the one i considered suitable, as 77 or any other number actually has a different symbolic meaning. I did a small google search myself now, i was curious about the 7, that for me was so obvious but i didnt used it at all, yet i considered it the same thing with the ones i used 81 is a heptagonal number. A heptagonal number is a number that represents a heptagon (7-sides) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heptagonal_number my really hord-core research question , is how can a 4-fold, completed by whatever tribunal is (i cant say yet), result in a 7 related symbolistic? So far there is no 7 related meaning in the realm, nor do i intend one, but this time i know ..one will result.

and yet ... you will find just a fragment of it, because to understand the numerology used in tribunals (land is not yet configured fully), you will have to first understand the other lands. Only then tribunal will complete its meaning. there are no other flavors suitable for tribunal other than gray-black/seven or eighty.one but how could you possibly understand the clues in TB when you have no idea about the ones left years in front of you.

not to mention some , like me, cant even open them ( only jpg on mobile)